i hate vista.

J

Joseph Meehan

All changes have problems. I can remember moving from Atari TOS version
1.2 to 1.4. One game I really loved became totally unplayable as it
depended on the clock speed and that was significantly increased. Overall
the improvement was great, but there are always problems.

I find that in the long run most problems are nothing more than part of
the learning curve. Some of the remaining can be corrected and the
remainder don't seem very important in a few months once you lean more about
the new system.
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Chin Yang said:
computer literate people who love change (for good reason) and was waiting
anxiously for vista

saw that vista is nothing more than a bucket of crap

how do you explain this?

wait, I can explain it myself... vista IS a bucket of crap!

No, you just probably don't know how to use Vista. Maybe you should get the
Vista for Retards book and someone read it to you.
 
G

Gordon

Chin Yang said:
computer literate people who love change (for good reason) and was waiting
anxiously for vista

saw that vista is nothing more than a bucket of crap

how do you explain this?

wait, I can explain it myself... vista IS a bucket of crap!


Umm no it's not - it just err....works.....
 
A

Adam Albright

No, you just probably don't know how to use Vista.

The lamest excuse of all. You got to be a special kind of nut to offer
up such a weak defense. Reviewing your posting history Bill you surely
qualify as a nut, often screaming and yelling at a comparable level to
the well known pest Frank. Obviously you and he are seen as nothing
but accomplished Microsoft butt kissers and apple polishers.

Repeat until it penetrates your cement block skull:

Little has changed in Windows since it's inception way back in the
early 80's. So claiming people don't know how to use it is
condescending, unfounded and just a smoke screen.

What unabashed Microsoft boot lickers like you and Frank can't stand
is people documenting WHAT IS WRONG with the latest version of
Windows. Like all it's former versions Vista is no exception to being
badly flawed, bug riddled and prone to fail due to a host of reasons,
most not the fault of the user.

So it has nothing to do with "leaning how to use Vista", rather
discovering how badly it is broken and trying to find ways to work
around its numerous shortcoming, just like people having been doing
from the beginning with every other prior version of Windows.
 
H

HeyBub

Adam said:
The lamest excuse of all. You got to be a special kind of nut to offer
up such a weak defense. Reviewing your posting history Bill you surely
qualify as a nut, often screaming and yelling at a comparable level to
the well known pest Frank. Obviously you and he are seen as nothing
but accomplished Microsoft butt kissers and apple polishers.

Repeat until it penetrates your cement block skull:

Little has changed in Windows since it's inception way back in the
early 80's. So claiming people don't know how to use it is
condescending, unfounded and just a smoke screen.

That's like saying automobiles haven't changed much since the Model-T. They
still have an engine, brakes, four tires, and (most) a roof. Your
appreciation of the changes is simplistic and superficial.
What unabashed Microsoft boot lickers like you and Frank can't stand
is people documenting WHAT IS WRONG with the latest version of
Windows. Like all it's former versions Vista is no exception to being
badly flawed, bug riddled and prone to fail due to a host of reasons,
most not the fault of the user.

We have no problem with people pointing out flaws in Vista, so long as they
precede their comments with something like: "It pains me to mention the
possibility of a slight improvement in this area..."
So it has nothing to do with "leaning how to use Vista", rather
discovering how badly it is broken and trying to find ways to work
around its numerous shortcoming, just like people having been doing
from the beginning with every other prior version of Windows.

I undertake the same learning curve with every new wife. Just because she's
not perfect, doesn't mean she's not way better than her predecessor! You
just have to learn how to use the new item; the button you're used to
pressing may have moved, changed color, or disappeared.

If you want grief, just keep saying "my previous wife didn't do it that
way..."
 
A

Adam Albright

Umm no it's not - it just err....works.....


Err... the point is Vista doesn't work well... for a LOT of people.

Surprisingly Microsoft blew it BIG TIME in an area where they
previously excelled at; marketing.

We were told Vista has a WOW factor. What Microsoft didn't say was the
typical consumer after using Vista would say wow, this pile of crap
keeps preventing me from accessing my files because of it's lame UAC
bullshit. And wow, Microsoft's damn Digital Rights Management drives
me nuts and wow, there are how many different versions of Vista?

Microsoft was greedy. Clearly anyone with just average intelligence
after using Vista knows without a doubt that Vista was rushed out the
door, unready, not finished, poorly tested and prone to cause problems
for many. Everyone? No, but WAY TOO MANY have problems.

Microsoft removed all the hope and promise from the shipped version of
Vista. Why? Because they bit off more than they could chew. Nearly
five years in development with many changes planned the boys of
Redmond discovered they simply couldn't deliver. So that wow factor
was reduced to eye candy fluff and even that is at best cheesy.

Microsoft further goofed in that their partners clearly weren't ready.
Many "upgrading" to Vista discovered they needed to buy expensive
hardware upgrades like graphic cards and new scanners and printers and
sometimes more memory. For example many main line printers from the
major companies didn't have Vista drivers and said flat out they
weren't about to write new ones either for products that might have
been released as little as a year earlier forcing consumers to buy
newer models or try to force a older driver to work thus crippling
features that worked in XP, then no longer would for Vista.

Then we have the Vista Advisor, often giving inaccurate advice if your
old system would run correctly without change under Vista and the even
worse "Vista Certified" program that can be best described as a hoax
again angering consumers who bought something new that was CERTIFIED
to work with Vista only to take it home and find out it didn't.

Perhaps the biggest reason for Vista to receive the back of the hand
from may trying it is there was precious little new in Vista that
consumers wanted. This is a serious mistake. If you don't improve the
latest version then there is little reason to upgrade.

The hype factor: While Microsoft claims Vista is selling, much of the
sales are preinstalled in new boxes. In other words a shotgun
marriage. If you're in the market for a new box, changes are if you
wanted to stick with Windows you only choice was Vista or maybe you
could beg for a copy of XP if you could find a retailer carrying a box
with that installed.

As usual Microsoft seems very accomplished at shooting itself in the
foot. The numbers don't lie. Over a year on the shelf and 84% of
consumers already running Windows, haven't and aren't about to upgrade
anytime soon.
 
A

Adam Albright

That's like saying automobiles haven't changed much since the Model-T. They
still have an engine, brakes, four tires, and (most) a roof. Your
appreciation of the changes is simplistic and superficial.

You miss the point. At the core level cars HAVEN'T changed much in
over 100 years. Most still use a crude fuel wasting internal
combustion engine, they pollute the air, they're way too heavy and
they fold up like a pretzel if impacted at anything higher than 10
MPH. In a similar vain Windows hasn't changed much either. Like with
today's cars they moved the knobs around, added some chrome in some
places, taken it away in others, tried to update to "prettier" colors
and other fluff.

I resent the lame and often used excuse often seen in this group that
you have to "learn" how to use Vista. That's pure bullshit. If you
know how to use Windows from an earlier era, you STILL know how to use
Windows. Something often lost is a lot of people NEVER have really
learned how to use Windows properly, as witness to the endless
questions on how to do basic things. I'll wager a good percent of
people aren't even aware of the power of right clicking or Function
keys and other basic stuff.
We have no problem with people pointing out flaws in Vista, so long as they
precede their comments with something like: "It pains me to mention the
possibility of a slight improvement in this area..."

LOL! That's funny. We're not talking slight improvements, we're
talking major flaws that waste zillion of man hours, cause untold
frustration and other annoying unasked for and unwanted features that
tend to infer with, confound, baffle and piss-off users.
 
G

Gordon

Chin Yang said:
yeah.. like if your new wife likes kicking you in the balls or cutting off
your whiner all you have to do is get use to it...

Vista is crap

Would you care to elaborate on your wild unsubstantiated stupid comments?
 
S

Straight Talk

I undertake the same learning curve with every new wife. Just because she's
not perfect, doesn't mean she's not way better than her predecessor! You
just have to learn how to use the new item; the button you're used to
pressing may have moved, changed color, or disappeared.

You're right. One needs to understand ones new wife's buttons. Things
may have moved or disappeared ;-)
 

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