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Amedee Van Gasse
sf shared this with us in microsoft.public.word.newusers:
wrong group, try a comp.hardware.* group
wrong group, try a comp.hardware.* group
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sf
Back off sister because I'm not in the mood to be preached at. My
computer died last weekend and I'm not posting from one that I own.
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computer died last weekend and I'm not posting from one that I own.
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Thanks, give me the entire name and I'll go there.
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Thanks, give me the entire name and I'll go there.
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TF said:
I did it before I was told otherwise a few years ago and never had a
problem. So, yes I am part of that minority. LOL. I also have saved
directly to floppy - keeping a copy on the HD afterward. Never had a
problem up to this, but I'm inlined to blame the floppy since it
happened with 3 different computers. Oh, well. It's over now. Thanks
for reminding me of the proper protocol to save.
Now I need to find a ardware group so I can as about dual channel SDRAM
and I guess I need to figure out how to find a microsoft xp group from
google (not easy) to ask about which OS and Office version to order on
a new computer.
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sf
TF said:
I did it before I was told otherwise a few years ago and never had a
problem. So, yes I am part of that minority. LOL. I also have saved
directly to floppy - keeping a copy on the HD afterward. Never had a
problem up to this, but I'm inlined to blame the floppy since it
happened with 3 different computers. Oh, well. It's over now. Thanks
for reminding me of the proper protocol to save.
Now I need to find a ardware group so I can as about dual channel SDRAM
and I guess I need to figure out how to find a microsoft xp group from
google (not easy) to ask about which OS and Office version to order on
a new computer.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Terry has already provided an answer about dual-channel SDRAM.
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Fairhope, Alabama USA
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all may benefit.
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sf
Thanks for the heads up.... I haven't blundered into that answer yet.
TIA, Terry!
Not having my usual interface has really put me into a tailspin and I'm
not seeing what I'm used to finding easily. :/
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TIA, Terry!
Not having my usual interface has really put me into a tailspin and I'm
not seeing what I'm used to finding easily. :/
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sf
Many thanks Terry! Dual channel is a no brainer, in that case....
especially considering that a 2 or 3 year old computer is considered
brand new in my household. We keep them 5-7 years, until they die or
the OS is a complete dinosaur - whatever comes first.
Now I have to find out if I will be able to use the remote access part
of XP pro to access my work computer from home. If I can, it's worth
the $$$. If I can't, I'll stick with the XP Home version.... unless
there's another compelling reason to go with Pro.
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especially considering that a 2 or 3 year old computer is considered
brand new in my household. We keep them 5-7 years, until they die or
the OS is a complete dinosaur - whatever comes first.
Now I have to find out if I will be able to use the remote access part
of XP pro to access my work computer from home. If I can, it's worth
the $$$. If I can't, I'll stick with the XP Home version.... unless
there's another compelling reason to go with Pro.
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TF said:
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TF
Windows XPP has a service for securely connecting across the Internet to an
Office Network called VPN (Virtual Private Networking). I don't believe that
you can do that with WinXP Home edition (though I may be wrong). Also, if
you get XPH, you won't be able to log in to a work Domain. There are
workarounds for this, but it means you have to leave a security hole in your
Work domain. Unless your work network is also a dinosaur, I would recommend
XPP.
Terry
: Many thanks Terry! Dual channel is a no brainer, in that case....
: especially considering that a 2 or 3 year old computer is considered
: brand new in my household. We keep them 5-7 years, until they die or
: the OS is a complete dinosaur - whatever comes first.
:
: Now I have to find out if I will be able to use the remote access part
: of XP pro to access my work computer from home. If I can, it's worth
: the $$$. If I can't, I'll stick with the XP Home version.... unless
: there's another compelling reason to go with Pro.
:
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: TF wrote:
: > Simple answer: because it doubles your memory speed.
: >
: > Explanation: memory chips are pretty much limited to running at
: 200MHz. By
: > some clever architecture changes made my the RAM manufacturers, it is
:
: > possible to both write and read in the same clock cycle, so the
: memory
: > modules effectively run at 400MHz. This is still half the speed of
: the
: > processor bus (800MHz) and is a bottleneck to processor performance.
: So by
: > changing the method of addressing the memory, it is possible to run
: two
: > memory modules on a single 800MHz bus, alternately addresses each
: module per
: > clock cycle - Dual Channel!
: >
: > What's it worth in raw performance: 12% for very little additional
: > investment (if you want dual channel 512MB memory, you have to have 2
: x
: > 256MB modules which are just a little more expensive that a single
: 512MB
: > module). The processor also costs a little more but also get
: hyperthreading
: > enabled on the processor which is worth up to 8% depending on what
: you are
: > running.
: >
: > You may not think that you need all that extra power, but think two
: or three
: > years ahead and you may find that the extra 12% wards off yet another
:
: > replacement PC for an extra year.
: >
: > --
: > Terry Farrell - Word MVP
: > http://word.mvps.org/
: >
: > : > : Sorry about those empty posts. Don't know how they happened -
: Google
: > : "groups" is a dark and mysterious process. I'm posting from Google
: > : because my home computer died and I haven't decided on the options
: I
: > : want for my new one.
: > :
: > : If anyone is in the mood to b helpful, I need advice about basic
: things
: > : like dual channel SDRAM.
: > : :/
: > : I know what SDRAM is but why would "dual channel" be something I
: might
: > : need/want?
: > :
: > : TIA
: > : sf
: > :
:
Office Network called VPN (Virtual Private Networking). I don't believe that
you can do that with WinXP Home edition (though I may be wrong). Also, if
you get XPH, you won't be able to log in to a work Domain. There are
workarounds for this, but it means you have to leave a security hole in your
Work domain. Unless your work network is also a dinosaur, I would recommend
XPP.
Terry
: Many thanks Terry! Dual channel is a no brainer, in that case....
: especially considering that a 2 or 3 year old computer is considered
: brand new in my household. We keep them 5-7 years, until they die or
: the OS is a complete dinosaur - whatever comes first.
:
: Now I have to find out if I will be able to use the remote access part
: of XP pro to access my work computer from home. If I can, it's worth
: the $$$. If I can't, I'll stick with the XP Home version.... unless
: there's another compelling reason to go with Pro.
:
: ``````````````````````````
: TF wrote:
: > Simple answer: because it doubles your memory speed.
: >
: > Explanation: memory chips are pretty much limited to running at
: 200MHz. By
: > some clever architecture changes made my the RAM manufacturers, it is
:
: > possible to both write and read in the same clock cycle, so the
: memory
: > modules effectively run at 400MHz. This is still half the speed of
: the
: > processor bus (800MHz) and is a bottleneck to processor performance.
: So by
: > changing the method of addressing the memory, it is possible to run
: two
: > memory modules on a single 800MHz bus, alternately addresses each
: module per
: > clock cycle - Dual Channel!
: >
: > What's it worth in raw performance: 12% for very little additional
: > investment (if you want dual channel 512MB memory, you have to have 2
: x
: > 256MB modules which are just a little more expensive that a single
: 512MB
: > module). The processor also costs a little more but also get
: hyperthreading
: > enabled on the processor which is worth up to 8% depending on what
: you are
: > running.
: >
: > You may not think that you need all that extra power, but think two
: or three
: > years ahead and you may find that the extra 12% wards off yet another
:
: > replacement PC for an extra year.
: >
: > --
: > Terry Farrell - Word MVP
: > http://word.mvps.org/
: >
: > : > : Sorry about those empty posts. Don't know how they happened -
: > : "groups" is a dark and mysterious process. I'm posting from Google
: > : because my home computer died and I haven't decided on the options
: I
: > : want for my new one.
: > :
: > : If anyone is in the mood to b helpful, I need advice about basic
: things
: > : like dual channel SDRAM.
: > : :/
: > : I know what SDRAM is but why would "dual channel" be something I
: might
: > : need/want?
: > :
: > : TIA
: > : sf
: > :
:
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sf
Thanks again, Terry!
Just curious - VPN isn't an free app. anymore? I downloaded it a
couple of years ago when my mother got her first home computer - in
case she had a problem. Fortunately for me (because VPN used
terminology that was completely out of my range of knowledge), I never
needed to use it. Mom turned out to be a visual learner, so I can send
her screen shots plus instructions about what to do and she's ok with
that.
I tried to access the Help Desk today, but they were on voice mail and
I didn't leave a message because my experience is that they call back
when it's the least convenient for me. I'll try again tomorrow - I've
got to make a computer order ASAP and I need answers.
I checked - it still was. They've done some things lately that are
making more work for the average worker - so I guess it's called making
"progress" at this stage.
At this point, cost isn't a hindrance ($79). OTOH, Home Office (way
over $200) makes me ask myself if I "really" need it... but I want
Power Point(!), in spite of the limited number of times I've used it to
compose a presentation.
sf
Ummm... before I say "goodbye" - would you please share your knowledge
of processors? My only option is P4 - but I have to figure out if I
want anything from 2.80 GHz, 800FSB (whatever fsb means) to 340GHz with
800FSB. The difference seems so minor (to me) that unless I was a
gaming fanatic or power user such as an architect or engineer - it
wouldn't make a difference I'd notice as a home/office user. Am I
correct?
TIA
Just curious - VPN isn't an free app. anymore? I downloaded it a
couple of years ago when my mother got her first home computer - in
case she had a problem. Fortunately for me (because VPN used
terminology that was completely out of my range of knowledge), I never
needed to use it. Mom turned out to be a visual learner, so I can send
her screen shots plus instructions about what to do and she's ok with
that.
I tried to access the Help Desk today, but they were on voice mail and
I didn't leave a message because my experience is that they call back
when it's the least convenient for me. I'll try again tomorrow - I've
got to make a computer order ASAP and I need answers.
Well, I can't guarantee it's not a dinosaur. No kidding, the last time
I checked - it still was. They've done some things lately that are
making more work for the average worker - so I guess it's called making
"progress" at this stage.
At this point, cost isn't a hindrance ($79). OTOH, Home Office (way
over $200) makes me ask myself if I "really" need it... but I want
Power Point(!), in spite of the limited number of times I've used it to
compose a presentation.
sf
Ummm... before I say "goodbye" - would you please share your knowledge
of processors? My only option is P4 - but I have to figure out if I
want anything from 2.80 GHz, 800FSB (whatever fsb means) to 340GHz with
800FSB. The difference seems so minor (to me) that unless I was a
gaming fanatic or power user such as an architect or engineer - it
wouldn't make a difference I'd notice as a home/office user. Am I
correct?
TIA
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TF
:
: Ummm... before I say "goodbye" - would you please share your knowledge
: of processors? My only option is P4 - but I have to figure out if I
: want anything from 2.80 GHz, 800FSB (whatever fsb means) to 340GHz with
: 800FSB. The difference seems so minor (to me) that unless I was a
: gaming fanatic or power user such as an architect or engineer - it
: wouldn't make a difference I'd notice as a home/office user. Am I
: correct?
:
: TIA
:
The 3.4GHz has a few other improvements such as a larger L2 cache and some
new processes, but for Office work, the 2.8GHz should be fine.
Terry
: Ummm... before I say "goodbye" - would you please share your knowledge
: of processors? My only option is P4 - but I have to figure out if I
: want anything from 2.80 GHz, 800FSB (whatever fsb means) to 340GHz with
: 800FSB. The difference seems so minor (to me) that unless I was a
: gaming fanatic or power user such as an architect or engineer - it
: wouldn't make a difference I'd notice as a home/office user. Am I
: correct?
:
: TIA
:
The 3.4GHz has a few other improvements such as a larger L2 cache and some
new processes, but for Office work, the 2.8GHz should be fine.
Terry