How to recover my e-mails from old hard disk

M

Marcelo

My XP computer suffered a burned mother board so I have a new one that has
Vista installed, I saved my old 120 GB C: hard disk from the old computer. I
have been able to save and transfer all my working files but I am not able to
find where do my old e-mails are in the old HD, if I can get the location I
will be able to transfer them to my new PC.

Can any one out thre give me a clue on the location of the old e-mails.

Regards
 
P

philo

Craig Hutchinson said:
This would depend on the email client that you used...

Craig


But if Outlook Express was used, just search for the .dbx extention

such as inbox.dbx

to extract the old mail you'd have to rename the file so as not to conflict
with any existing inbox.dbx file...
but you'll need to get your advice from someone more familiar with Vista
than I am
as I do not know if Windows Mail functions the same way as OE ( I'd can only
guess that it would)
 
G

Gerry

Marcelo

You should ask your question in a Vista newgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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D

DL

Since the old drive was not Vista, its nothing much to do with Vista untill
it comes to connecting old mail files to Windows Mail
 
G

Gerry

DL

I think you are mistaken.

Windows Mail is Outlook Express with some features changed. Marcello
will need to import the Outlook Express messages into Windows Mail. From
what I remember the import feature in Windows Mail is similar to OE.
Marcello's problem is that he cannot see the OE dbx files. In Windows XP
dbx files are hidden by default and you need to enable Show Hidden Files
to see them. There will be a similar procedure in Vista. Marcello has
not explained how he has transferred other data files but it can be done
either, by putting the XP disk in the Vista computer as a slave or, if
the Vista computer can only take one drive then an external closure
could be used. There would be other ways to transfer the files if you
had access to a Windows XP computer but we do not know that Marcello has
easy access to one.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
M

Marcelo

Thanks to all for your help, I suspected that files might be hidden after
browsing hundreds of files in my old HD (fitted to an external case as an
external USB HD) but thought (not mistakenly) that here I would get the right
help-

I have thought of another way of doing it (finding the missing e-mail files)
just make a back-up of this external file into another disk (or partition
really this external HD is parttioned into 2 parts 60GB each) with the Vista
back-up feature and then restoring it to the C: HD in the new PC, can this
merge all the e-mail files into one file accessed by the Windows Mail program?

Thanks again

Marcelo
 
G

Gerry

Marcelo

This should be answered by someone who uses Vista.

SFAIK you will need to import the messages into Windows Mail. File,
Import, Messages, follow instructions and then use the browse to go the
Store Folder. You can only import mail folders. You cannot import news
folders. Do not separate the files from the store folder. The procedure
will be similar to Outlook Express, except you will need to locate the
Store folder without having Outlook Express to point the way.

To restore your mail folders, open OE and click File| Import| Messages|
OE5 (or OE6 if OE5 is not listed)| Message store directory, then browse
to the folder containing your old messages. Do not copy the backup files
into the current OE message store or the import will fail. If you saved
your backup on a CD or a networked drive, you will need to copy the
backup to your hard disk and verify that none of the *.dbx files are
marked as "read only", or the import will fail. Source:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/simple.htm


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
O

Olórin

Gerry said:
Marcelo

This should be answered by someone who uses Vista.

** Only regarding the importing into Windows Mail, as DL pointed out. The
original question was, "Can any one out thre give me a clue on the location
of the old e-mails," and the old e-mails are on an XP installation.

To restore your mail folders, open OE and click File| Import| Messages|
<snip>

** But Marcelo doesn't have a working XP installation, just a slaved disk,
and so can't open OE!

Marcelo, you need to search for files with the .dbx extension on your old
drive, as Philo said. The default location is:

C:\Documents and Settings\<name>\Local Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{string of characters}\Microsoft\Outlook Express

although it of course won't be "C:\" for you but some other letter.

Make sure you've enabled showing of Hidden Files, as Gerry said. You may
also need to take ownership of the files and folders on your slaved XP disk
from within Vista. There is a Microsoft article on how to do this for XP
here:

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com:80/?kbid=308421

but I can't offhand see one for Vista. You could do your own research, or
just use the XP article as a guide - I expect the procedure to be largely
the same, barring a few UAC pop-ups. Caveat emptor, though.

If you still can't locate the DBX files, I'd suggest using a decent search
utility such as Agent Ransack (). I've never trusted XP's built in Search
function - its default setting *isn't* to search for all files or within all
files, it needs tweaking to do that. I don't know if Microsoft improved
things with Vista, but I'd guess not.

I take it (he said, somewhat prissily) that you haven't got a copy of your
e-mail messages, taken as part of your regular back-up routine, that you can
work from, then? ;-)

Once you've found the files, you'll then need to look into the business of
importing the messages into Windows Mail. This is beyond the scope of this
group, although you've had some good pointers already. I wouldn't go down
the path that you propose of using Vista's backup feature to restore files
from the slaved drive to Vista. That's going all round the houses (probably
a uniquely English expression!); once you've located the files, import them
directly using Windows Mail - however that's done, precisely. There *are*
differences between Windows Mail and OE, though not necessarily in the
underlying storage structure. You should do some research or post to a Vista
or Windows Mail group if you need assistance with that.

Good luck!
 
G

Gerry

Olorin

Comments are in line. I hope this does cause too many problems.

Olórin said:
** Only regarding the importing into Windows Mail, as DL pointed out.
The original question was, "Can any one out thre give me a clue on
the location of the old e-mails," and the old e-mails are on an XP
installation.

Yes but you cannot ignore what the other person is trying to achieve.
Finding the files is the easy part and any number of contributors to the
Windows Mail newsgroup are capable are advising on that aspect.of the
task.
** But Marcelo doesn't have a working XP installation, just a slaved
disk, and so can't open OE!

Did you read what I said? "The procedure will be similar to Outlook
Express, except you will need to locate the Store folder without having
Outlook Express to point the way."
snipped


Make sure you've enabled showing of Hidden Files, as Gerry said. You
may also need to take ownership of the files and folders on your
slaved XP disk from within Vista. There is a Microsoft article on how
to do this for XP here:

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com:80/?kbid=308421

but I can't offhand see one for Vista.

Well here's one. It may not be the complete story.
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/27e9a81a-fac7-457f-896b-e0017a04a59f1033.mspx
snipped


If you still can't locate the DBX files, I'd suggest using a decent
search utility such as Agent Ransack (). I've never trusted XP's
built in Search function - its default setting *isn't* to search for
all files or within all files, it needs tweaking to do that. I don't
know if Microsoft improved things with Vista, but I'd guess not.

In my view it is worse but many think it is better. It probably depends
on what type of thing you are searching for.
snipped

There *are*
differences between Windows Mail and OE, though not necessarily in
the underlying storage structure.

The method of storage of messages is one of the few major changes
incorporated into Windows Mail. Outlook Express used a database
approach, whereby dbx files were folders containing the messages. In
Vista each messages is a file. This change was made to get round the
problems, which for years bugged users of Outlook Express. The problems
could be dramatic -one of the worst being the loss of thousands of
messages in the Inbox.

snipped


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
F

Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM

Marcelo said:
Thanks to all for your help, I suspected that files might be hidden after
browsing hundreds of files in my old HD (fitted to an external case as an
external USB HD) but thought (not mistakenly) that here I would get the
right
help-

I have thought of another way of doing it (finding the missing e-mail
files)
just make a back-up of this external file into another disk (or partition
really this external HD is parttioned into 2 parts 60GB each) with the
Vista
back-up feature and then restoring it to the C: HD in the new PC, can this
merge all the e-mail files into one file accessed by the Windows Mail
program?


It isn't anywhere as simple as that. WinMail stores each message as a
separate file.
If you used Outlook Express on the old computer, see
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm
Pay special attention to the caution about the path.
 

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