How to import Outlook Express Address Book Groups and Folders to .

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Guest

I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the folders and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?
 
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
 
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Guest

Thanks for this info.

Russ Valentine said:
You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Andy Higgs said:
I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import
the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the folders
and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?
 
G

Guest

Russ Valentine said:
You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Andy Higgs said:
I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import
the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the folders
and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?

This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the code for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into Outlook, your
stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing the use of OE. I
personally will continue to use OE for email and outlook for scheduling.
And that's a real PitA!
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the code
for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into Outlook, your
stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing the use of OE. I
personally will continue to use OE for email and outlook for scheduling.
And that's a real PitA!

Can you export to a CSV file and import? Move folder contents to the main
folder and import?
 
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Atanas Daskalov

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Russ Valentine said:
You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Andy Higgs said:
I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly
arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this
into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import
the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the
folders
and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?

This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the code
for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into Outlook, your
stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing the use of OE. I
personally will continue to use OE for email and outlook for scheduling.
And that's a real PitA!
 
A

Atanas Daskalov

"Allen K in N.O." <Allen K in (e-mail address removed)> ÎÁÐÉÓÁ ×
ÓßÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ ÎÁ ÄÉÓËÕÓÉÏÎÎÁ
ÇÒÕÐÁ:[email protected]...
Russ Valentine said:
You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Andy Higgs said:
I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly
arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this
into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import
the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the
folders
and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?

This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the code
for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into Outlook, your
stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing the use of OE. I
personally will continue to use OE for email and outlook for scheduling.
And that's a real PitA!
 
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Brian Tillman

Atanas Daskalov said:
This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the
code for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is
doing.

Do the other members in your family always know what you are doing or you
they? Of course not. How much moreso with a company with thousands of
employees who may not even be geographically near? Additionally, they'e
completely separate programs. Do you expect tho be able to open, say, a
Visio document with Notepad? Why not? Your argument should still apply.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into
Outlook, your stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing
the use of OE. I personally will continue to use OE for email and
outlook for scheduling. And that's a real PitA!

It's also a PitA to use a screwdriver for driving screws and a saw for
cutting lumber, but you do it and you probhably don't complain.

I'm not completely unsympathetic to what you're saying, but I think your
expectations are somewhat unrealistic.
 
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Ok, so let me get this straight...
- The programs are called OUTLOOK and OUTLOOK Express.
- Outlook Express handles contacts and emails, OUTLOOK handles emails, contacts, scheduling etc
- They are both EMAIL programs made by the SAME company.
- Microsoft seems to market Outlook for corporate users and Outlook Express for home users
- You can import your mail settings, email, contacts etc from Express using the import function of Outlook.
- Outlook has Distribution Lists which are somewhat analogous to Groups in Outlook Express

HOWEVER, you're saying we're being UNREALISTIC to think that we can import Outlook Express Groups into Outlook Distribution Lists? I would think that Microsoft would just add the functionality as part of the upgrade path when you buy Office. Now there MIGHT be TECHNICAL reason why they haven't done it but I don't see what it is right now. But I certainly dont think its unrealistic to expect that functionality considering the products.

And with regards to your analogy, VISIO is a high level technical diagramming program. NOTEPAD is a simplistic text editor. They are two completely different programs with different uses. Outlook and Outlook Express are BOTH EMAIL programs made by the same company and Outlook Express has a subset of the functionality of OUTLOOK. So I'm sorry to say but your analogy is greatly FLAWED.
 
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Brian Tillman

CymBa said:
Outlook and Outlook
Express are BOTH EMAIL programs made by the same company and Outlook
Express has a subset of the functionality of OUTLOOK. So I'm sorry to
say but your analogy is greatly FLAWED.

And your simplistic view of how large corporations work is flawed.
Microsoft has programming teams all over the world. Do you really think
they all share their ideas and designs with each other? You you realy think
that's even physically possible?
 
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First of all, to the consumer, its of absolutely no relevance how large corporations work. That's the corporations problem. The thing in dispute here is whether or not we, as the consumers, are JUSTIFIED in expecting 2 Microsoft applications that do basically the same thing being able to share data. Whether Microsoft is a multi-national billion dollar company or 2 ppl in a garage tapping away at a computer, WE as the consumers would still have the same EXPECTATION. Outlook and outlook express ALREADY share data, so why did they leave out groups?

Microsoft is RENOWNED for keeping its file formats etc to itself. Yet funnily enough there are programs out there that can both READ and WRITE microsoft files(office etc). There are programs that can convert to and from various other formats including those used by Microsoft. So if programmers who have NO contact with the MS programming teams around the world as you put it can figure out how to get stuff like this done then why shouldn't we expect two teams (as you say) in the SAME company to not do the same?

There are examples of disparate teams all over the world working on different projects. Do you think all the Linux developers live in the same town? Look at SourceForge http://sourceforge.net , thousands of projects , thousands of people working on them from disparate geographic regions. Heck , There are a number of software packages, some written by Microsoft (MS SourceSafe) itself that are supposed to allow distributive code development. In this day and age geographic location is of no consequence. I live in the Caribbean , yet being a software developer myself I work with systems and teams in the US, Finland and other Caribbean territories. THAT's the power of the INTERNET, information exchange.

Microsoft itself SELLS a Group Collaboration Tool called Microsoft Sharepoint (http://www.microsoft.com/office/sharepoint/prodinfo/overview.mspx) which, in THEIR OWN WORDS
"enables enterprises to develop an intelligent portal that seamlessly connects users, teams, and knowledge so that people can take advantage of relevant information across business processes to help them work more efficiently"

or what about ANOTHER Microsoft Product, LiveMeeting (http://www.microsoft.com/office/livemeeting/prodinfo/default.mspx)
which "enables you to collaborate online with colleagues, customers, and partners in real time, in groups of two or even thousands—with just a PC, and an Internet connection."

Why should we use these products when , as you would have us believe, it can't be done?

Also, its not as if its a huge amount of data that would be required to implement it either. All that would be needed is a document from the Outlook Express Team outlining the format of their Contacts Groups implementation. This document should already exist as part of their project documentation anywayz and the relevant sections should be less than 10 pages, if so long. So all they'd have to do is EMAIL it (probably using Outlook hehe) to the OUTLOOK Team for them to add their existing import filter. End of story.

What I don't understand is why you're making excuses for something like this when in truth the critique is necessary for better products to come forth. Who knows , maybe why its not possible is that no one at MS thought of it and it was an honest oversight; and those users who wanted it were content to sit on their laurels and say "oh, thats how big corporations are...".

The fact that we've accepted the mediocrity that Microsoft occasionally puts out has resulted in it taking far too long for them to come to an acceptable standard/solution.

Stop making excuses for mediocrity.
 
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Brian Tillman

CymBa said:
There are examples of disparate teams all over the world working on
different projects. Do you think all the Linux developers live in the
same town?

No, and that's why programs written for one flavor of Linux don't always
work on another flavor of Linux.
 
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There is only one LINUX. Linux kernel development is handled by Linus Torvalds and his team whom are not in the same geographic area. They then put the kernel up to be used by companies and individuals that create DISTRIBUTIONS or what u are referring to as 'flavours'.

Each company then decides what THEY want to put in their distro to give to THEIR target audience. So when a program doesn't work on a particular distro its because the creator of the distro most likely didnt include a component or the right version that the program needs with it. This component just needs to be downloaded and installed.

So the difference between distros comes about because those companies chose NOT to collaborate. Not because they can't. There have been efforts to maintain a standard base distro from which all distros derive and it works for awhile but what usually happens is that some companies want to be able to differentiate themselves further and break the standard. But that's politics and business not because its 'physically impossible for the teams to collaborate' as u seem to want to suggest.
 
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Brian Tillman

CymBa said:
There is only one LINUX.

There is one Linux _kernel_. There are multiple flavors of Linux (Red Hat
Linux and Yellow Dog Linux are two) that have additional layers.

I'm not going to argue with you any more. We just have a different idea
about what's reasonable.
 

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