How to hide email address without using Javascript?

[Guest]

Hi,

That that IE7 does not natively display javascript without barking at the
web site visitor, is there a way to prevent havesting of email addresses from
a web page?

I previously used a very functional piece of javascript to do this. The
email address was both visible and clickable (ie. mailto: worked) . But in
the html, the address was just a series of numbers that were generated for me
by someone's web site (as I recall from several years ago).

Again, the question is: How can this be done equally as well, without using
javascript ?

Regards,
Brcobrem

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

One option: Use forms that are processed by whichever server-side scripting is supported by your web
host, this way the email address is never visible on the web site.

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[SingaporeWebDesign]

Hello,

IE7 supports JavaScript unless it has been disabled via Internet Options.
There is no 'barking' unless your page uses ActiveX controls.

Another method you can use is to display your e-mail in an image, but the
mailto will not work in this case. Keep in mind - many users use web mail so
will not find it convenient to load up their web mail to e-mail you.

Use a e-mail form as Thomas suggests.

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[Ronx]

IE7 (and IE6) only "barks" when using Java, Active-X, or Flash. It will
also "bark" when using JavaScript from a file-system location, such as
C:\documents and settings\....\my webs\website\page.htm
but not when using JavaScript from a web server
(http://example.com/page.htm)
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[md Webs Unlimited]

You're JavaScript function should not cause IE to "bark". Do you have a URL
so that we may take a look?

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[P@tty Ayers]

... is there a way to prevent havesting of email addresses from
a web page?

Keep all email addresses off of all web pages, and use a web form, as Thomas
suggests. I would never put any email address that I don't want to be dead &
buried by spam in a few months onto a public web page.

 

[Jeremy]

Here is the tool I use to hide email addresses from harvesters on my
website.

http://www.mways.co.uk/prog/hidemail.php

Just enter your email address at the bottom of the page and it will be
converted into code you can paste into your site.

 

[Murray]

This just means that the version of the spam bot needs to have the decoding
mechanism. As far as I know, there is no way to do such encoding that
cannot be unencoded by spam bots.

 

[DSG]

Individuals who still use Java, Active-X, or Flash might try this effective
procedure to use a graphic for your email address. It might be overkill, but
it has eliminated much spam in our office emails.

In your graphics program, type an email address and format it (size? color?
font?)
Select it and render it to a graphic to at least 300 dpi (300 dpi prevents
the 'jaggies') - size it, and save it as either jpg or gif. The graphics
compression will reduce the file size.
Import the graphic to FrontPage images folder.
Create an e-mail.htm page and save it.
Insert the graphic as a picture from file.
In your index.html page's bottom shared border link the text "email" or
"contact" to the email.htm page.

If you have multiple email addresses that need to be on that page, create a
graphic for each one, or create a graphic that includes all the addresses.
Be mindful that "mailto:" will not work in the case of the graphics (a
graphic used like this cannot be used to call up a New Message).

On the email.htm page, you can add text that explains something like this:

"In an effort to reduce or eliminate SPAM in E-Mail in our Inboxes, we are
using this page to provide you with the E-Mail address(es) hyperlinks
formerly used on our website.
"Please be kind enough to accept our policy by opening your Email program
and type the text shown in the graphic that shows the email address of your
choice. Thank you for helping us to eliminate SPAM."
.....................

: Hi,
:
: That that IE7 does not natively display javascript without barking at the
: web site visitor, is there a way to prevent havesting of email addresses
from
: a web page?
:
: I previously used a very functional piece of javascript to do this. The
: email address was both visible and clickable (ie. mailto: worked) . But in
: the html, the address was just a series of numbers that were generated for
me
: by someone's web site (as I recall from several years ago).
:
: Again, the question is: How can this be done equally as well, without
using
: javascript ?
:
: Regards,
: Brcobrem

 

[Hostingforabuck]

Hi,

That that IE7 does not natively display javascript without barking at thewebsite visitor, is there a way to prevent havesting of email addresses from
awebpage?

I previously used a very functional piece of javascript to do this. The
email address was both visible and clickable (ie. mailto: worked) . But in
the html, the address was just a series of numbers that were generated for me
by someone'swebsite (as I recall from several years ago).

Again, the question is: How can this be done equally as well, without using
javascript ?

Regards,
Brcobrem

Check out http://www.awes.com/obfuscator/

 

[Guest]

Hi,

That program was interesting. Thanks for the link. Only issue there is that
I could visually recognize thet the generated code is simply ascii character
numbers. Not certain, but my guess is that would be easily readable by the
bots.

 

[Guest]

Hi,

As a test, I did a fresh install of: XP Pro , all critical updates, and
finally IE7. Go to a web site with some JavaScript. My experience is that by
default, it does "bark" about the JavaScript.

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

Regards,
Brcobrem

 

[Guest]

Hi Ronx,

Here's something. In the freshly installed XP with IE7 (the "barker"): IE7

Tools > Advanced Options: There is no"Microsoft VM" section, thus no "JIT

compiler..".
Humm. . .

Brcobrem

 

[Guest]

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the link. As I mentioned in a thread above, only issue there is
that I could visually recognize thet the generated code is simply ascii
character numbers. Not certain, but my guess is that would be easily
readable by the bots.

Still kicking this around. A lot of good suggestions throughout these threads.

Regards,
Brcobrem

 

[Guest]

Hi DSG,

I'm liking this suggestion. Nice that you shared your "email policy" dialog
as well.

Thanks,
Brcobrem

 

[Ronx]

There is no longer any such thing as a Microsoft Virtual Machine - so no
need for a VM or JIT entry in IE7 configuration.
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[Ronx]

Can you give a link to one of these websites? I cannot reproduce this
action on any website I visit.
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[Murray]

Not terribly accessible, though. In fact, it's not at all accessible.

 

[Tom Willett]

I've never had a bark.. FWIW.
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| Can you give a link to one of these websites? I cannot reproduce this
| action on any website I visit.
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| Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
|
| http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
|
| FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
|
|
|
|
| |
| > Hi,
| >
| > As a test, I did a fresh install of: XP Pro , all critical updates, and
| > finally IE7. Go to a web site with some JavaScript. My experience is
that by
| > default, it does "bark" about the JavaScript.
| >
| > Thanks for your thoughts on this.
| >
| > Regards,
| > Brcobrem
| >
| > "SingaporeWebDesign" wrote:
| >
| > > Hello,
| > >
| > > IE7 supports JavaScript unless it has been disabled via Internet
Options.
| > > There is no 'barking' unless your page uses ActiveX controls.
| > >
| > > Another method you can use is to display your e-mail in an image, but
the
| > > mailto will not work in this case. Keep in mind - many users use web
mail so
| > > will not find it convenient to load up their web mail to e-mail you.
| > >
| > > Use a e-mail form as Thomas suggests.
| > >
| > > --
| > > Singapore Website Design
| > > http://www.bootstrike.com/Webdesign/
| > > Singapore Web Hosting
| > > http://www.bootstrike.com/WinXP/faq.html
| > > Windows XP FAQ
| > >
| > > | > > > Hi,
| > > >
| > > > That that IE7 does not natively display javascript without barking
at the
| > > > web site visitor, is there a way to prevent havesting of email
addresses
| > > > from
| > > > a web page?
| > > >
| > > > I previously used a very functional piece of javascript to do this.
The
| > > > email address was both visible and clickable (ie. mailto: worked) .
But in
| > > > the html, the address was just a series of numbers that were
generated for
| > > > me
| > > > by someone's web site (as I recall from several years ago).
| > > >
| > > > Again, the question is: How can this be done equally as well,
without
| > > > using
| > > > javascript ?
| > > >
| > > > Regards,
| > > > Brcobrem
| > >
| > >
| > >
|

 

[Guest]

Hi Ronx,

I cannot give out that link becuase it's a commercial site that I am working
on. However. . .

At least I found what was causing the javascript "bark". It was the
FrontPage "hover buttons" that I had used. Those buttons actually genereate,
and use, a little legitimate Microsoft file called "animate.js" . I romoved
the hover buttons and replaced them with normal hyperlinks, and the "barking"
is now gone. There's no more ActiveX warning on that page now either.

Always something isn't it ?

Regards,
Brcobrem