How to easily create useful data-entry forms in vb.net?

[pw]

I'm an experienced Access/VBA programmer, trying to become competent
using VB.net.

Using base vb.net it seems to me to be an AWFUL amount of work to
create data-entry forms similar to what one could create in Access in
20 minutes (eg. a form with datasheet/form-view options, filter fields,

etc., etc.).

Surely there is an easier way?! What do most 'real-life' programmers do

here? Is one of the commercial component suites the answer here?

Thanks,
Paul.

ps. please only constructive responses that address my issue. No need
to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc..

 

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

PW,

No need to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc..

Why is your than 80% of your message filled with that.

(Where it is not even the question if I agree with you ore not, but with
given you an answer and ignore those parts I would do if I agree with the by
you mentioned pros/cons from vba etc. )

So sorry no answer possible.

Cor

 

[Robert Johnson]

PW, Access was designed for "Non Programmers" and VB was designed for
programmers who would take the time to learn how to use the tools and the
language. VB is much more powerfull therefore there is more to do when
creating a form or anything else. VB expects you to do your own error
checking code, etc. As a professional programmer that is what I was trained
to do. Access does much of your design and coding for you. VB
allows/expects you to do it.

Regards,

Robert

 

[pw]

You obviously missed this part from my original post:

"ps. please only constructive responses that address my issue. No need
to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc.. "

 

[Ahmed]

Well, If you are using Visual studio 2005 it is really easy to create
enty forms.

 

[pw]

I beg to differ. I AM using VS2005 and no one could call it easy to
create USEFUL data-entry forms. Sure, you can easily create a basic
bound form, but to create anything with close to the utility of an
Access bound form (options for filtering, sorting, etc.) will take a
much longer time - I don't care how brilliant you are.

If someone knows of a code template/code generator or RAD tool for
this, I'd be interested. Thanks,

Paul.

 

[pw]

I beg to differ. I AM using VS2005 and no one could call it easy to
create USEFUL data-entry forms. Sure, you can easily create a basic
bound form, but to create anything with close to the utility of an
Access bound form (options for filtering, sorting, etc.) will take a
much longer time - I don't care how brilliant you are.

If someone knows of a code template/code generator or RAD tool for
this, I'd be interested. Thanks,

Paul.

 

[Ahmed]

Try DevForce. Two days ago I attended an event at the Ottawa .NET
community and looked like a great tool. The express edition of the tool
is free.

 

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Paul,

I beg to differ. I AM using VS2005 and no one could call it easy to
create USEFUL data-entry forms. Sure, you can easily create a basic
bound form, but to create anything with close to the utility of an
Access bound form (options for filtering, sorting, etc.) will take a
much longer time - I don't care how brilliant you are.

This is in the original post

No need to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc.. "

Is it really needed that you tell all the in your opinion pros of VBA, this
newsgroup is for VBNet.

For VBA are other newsgroups.

Cor

 

[pw]

Thank you! That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

Paul.

p.s. Cor is an idiot!

 

[Robert Johnson]

Clarion for Windows www.softvelocity.com/ I have used it for years Paul.
Its a RAD system.

Robert

 

[Robert Johnson]

I was trying to be constructive.

Robert

 

[Robert Johnson]

That will get you a lot of help Paul.

Robert

Thank you! That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

Paul.

p.s. Cor is an idiot!