How do requery a subform on another form from a seperate form?

[Neil M]

sorry you have mean really confused now.
do you mean just every other letter as it still doesn't make sense like
that???

I may find that the first part is ksnell@ but cant seem to understand the
last part?!

i know im stupid - LOL
Sorry.

That email address is "munged" -- which means I've modified it from its real
address by adding extraneous characters. You can decipher the real email
address from it by removing the words this is not real from it... begin at
the left side of the address, find the first t, remove it, then continue to
find the h, remove it, etc.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

so what is your email:
(e-mail address removed)

Sorry i don't understand remove the words - what words?

Thanks.
Neil M

Zip up the database (less than 2 MB as zip file) and email to me with clear
instructions on which forms and controls are involved in the question.
You
can extract my email address by removing the words this is not real

from
my

reply-to email address.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

Now i'm getting the message:

Run-time error 2465
Can't find the field 'Subform/Subreport: Sub' referred top in your
expression.

Is there anyway I can send to you privately please so we can sort

this
out

I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Neil

That is not what I posted:

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN![Subform/Subreport: Sub].Requery
End Sub

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

I've already tried that:

Forms!MAIN!Sub.Requery

and it still shows the same error?


message
OK, so the name of the subform control is "Subform/Subreport: Sub"?
Then
the
code would change to this:

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN![Subform/Subreport: Sub].Requery
End Sub

We don't need to include any reference to the tab page itself, as the
form
"owns" the controls on the tab page as well.
--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>




Access 2002 (10.6501.6735) SP3


message
Which version of ACCESS are you using?

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

The name states Subform/Subreport: Sub
(Summary is the page name (for the selected tab - on the multitab
page)

Would it be easier for me to send you the database file,

then
you

can
tell
me where i'm going wrong and i can explain to the group to
help
others
with
the possible same problem.

Thanks.
Neil

message
The error suggests that you're not using the correct name

of
the

main
form
or the correct name of the subform control that is on that main
form.

I don't know what you mean by "the tab is Summary"? What

was
the

name
in
the
Name property in the Other tab when you opened the Properties
window
after
clicking on the top of the subform while the main form is in
design
view?

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

Thanks. Think i'm getting to grips with this now.
Although now the problem shows up as ;

"The Expression you entered refers to an object that is closed
or
does
not
exist"


I have checked the name of the form and the tab is

Summary
and

the
Sub
form
has a name SUB, which i changed the requery to reflect either,
but
still
the
same error? (Forms!MAIN!Sub.Requery or Summary.Requery)
Any idea's. I really do appreciate this help. It's
getting
me
further
to
understand what is going wrong rather than just telling

me
the

answer...

Thanks.

Neil M

"Ken Snell [MVP]" <[email protected]>

wrote
in

message
Are you sure that the subform control (the subform

control
is

the
control
on
the main form -- that control holds the subform object) is
named
Summary?
The name of this control may not be the same name as the form
that
is
the
subform object. Open the form in design view, click on the
top
edge
of
the
subform, open Properties window, and see what the name

is
on

the
Other
tab.

Also, as I understand your setup, you're entering data

in
the

popup
form
that you then want to be shown in the subform, right?
Let's
try
this
code
in
these events for the popup form.

Let's use the Click event of the button (SAVE and EXIT button
that
you
put
on the form) to do this code (saves the record and

closes
the

form):

Private Sub YourButtonsName_Click()
Me.Dirty = False
DoCmd.Close acForm, Me.Name, acSaveNo
End Sub

Then let's use the Close event of the popup form to run this
code
(requeries
the main form's subform, if the names are correct):

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery
End Sub

The DoEvents statement is a way to tell ACCESS to

"pause"
and

let
things
catch up. It returns control to the PC so that it can do
other
things,
then
ACCESS regains control and continues. It's a common way to
let
things
finish
before the code continues.
--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>



What is the DoEvents command?

Also, just to let you know the subform still is not
updating????

Any other idea's?


Regards,

Neil
in
message
Do the requery before you close.

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu,
acSaveRecord,
,
acMenuVer70
DoEvents
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery
DoCmd.Close


--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>


Actually got it exiting the form now, but my next
problem
is
that
the
list
is still not updating in Summary..

I close the pop-up form using a SAVE AND EXIT command
button
with
this
code;

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar,
acRecordsMenu,
acSaveRecord,
,
acMenuVer70
DoCmd.Close
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery

But the new record is still not being shown on the
summary
list
unless
i
update (using a combo box to list OPEN or CLOSED)

Any further help would be appreciated and I do
appreciate
all
the
help
thus
far

Thanks.

Neil



Thanks.
But now i'm getting this error:

Run-time error 438
Object doesn't support this property or method

My code is this;

Private Sub Form_Close()
[Forms]![Main]![Summary]![Sub].Requery
End Sub


Any further help would be appreciative

Thanks.
Neil

"Ken Snell [MVP]"

wrote
in
message
Use the Close event of the popup form to run this
code
step:

Forms!MAIN!SUMMARY.Requery

This assumes that the name of the subform control
(the
control
on
MAIN
that
is actually holding the subform object) is named
SUMMARY.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>


Hi all,

Ive asked this question before a different way but
got
no
resolution.

So here's my problem again, please advise on
alternative
workarounds
or
a
solution;

How do requery a subform on another form from a
seperate
form?

I have a MAIN form that display a datasheet subform
named
SUMMARY
I click ADD on the main form and it brings up

a
new

window
to
add
(or
edit)
the record.

but when the new window closes the subform doesn't
update
with
the
new
information.
How do i update this subform after closing the
NEWREC
form,
so
the
summary
subform updates with any new records just

added
or

edited.
(the
summary
holds user id and a few other bits of info)
Clicking on the record id on the subform opens the
record
details,
which
works correctly at the moment.

Any extra help would be great - i want to try
and
finish
this
database
and
this is the only thing stopping me at the
moment.


Thanks,

Neil

 

[Eric D via AccessMonster.com]

Neil,

If you go back to your original issue of the requery not posting your new
record. I believe it's because the new record has not been posted at the time
you're doing the requery. The steps needed are:

Add the new record - you're doing this
Post the record - doesn't sound like this is getting done before you perform
your requery.
Requery the previous subform

When you're in the new record... it's not getting posted, therefore, your
requery is probably working but only sees records that are posted to the
table (normal).

You can Freeze the current form, move to next record, requery the subform and
then close the current form.
(there are more efficient ways but this should get you in the ballpark where
you want to be and it sounds like you could easily handle this)

 

[Ken Snell [MVP]]

I'm sorry, but I will not post the full address here in the ng.....

I don't know any other way to explain it than what I've done... try it on
paper by crossing out characters and see which characters remain.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

sorry you have mean really confused now.
do you mean just every other letter as it still doesn't make sense like
that???

I may find that the first part is ksnell@ but cant seem to understand the
last part?!

i know im stupid - LOL
Sorry.

That email address is "munged" -- which means I've modified it from its real
address by adding extraneous characters. You can decipher the real email
address from it by removing the words this is not real from it... begin
at
the left side of the address, find the first t, remove it, then continue to
find the h, remove it, etc.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

so what is your email:
(e-mail address removed)

Sorry i don't understand remove the words - what words?

Thanks.
Neil M


Zip up the database (less than 2 MB as zip file) and email to me with
clear
instructions on which forms and controls are involved in the question.
You
can extract my email address by removing the words this is not real from
my
reply-to email address.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

Now i'm getting the message:

Run-time error 2465
Can't find the field 'Subform/Subreport: Sub' referred top in your
expression.

Is there anyway I can send to you privately please so we can sort this
out
I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Neil

message
That is not what I posted:

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN![Subform/Subreport: Sub].Requery
End Sub

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

I've already tried that:

Forms!MAIN!Sub.Requery

and it still shows the same error?


message
OK, so the name of the subform control is "Subform/Subreport: Sub"?
Then
the
code would change to this:

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN![Subform/Subreport: Sub].Requery
End Sub

We don't need to include any reference to the tab page itself,
as
the
form
"owns" the controls on the tab page as well.
--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>




Access 2002 (10.6501.6735) SP3


message
Which version of ACCESS are you using?

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

The name states Subform/Subreport: Sub
(Summary is the page name (for the selected tab - on the
multitab
page)

Would it be easier for me to send you the database file, then
you
can
tell
me where i'm going wrong and i can explain to the group to
help
others
with
the possible same problem.

Thanks.
Neil

message
The error suggests that you're not using the correct name of
the
main
form
or the correct name of the subform control that is on that
main
form.

I don't know what you mean by "the tab is Summary"? What was
the
name
in
the
Name property in the Other tab when you opened the Properties
window
after
clicking on the top of the subform while the main form is in
design
view?

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

Thanks. Think i'm getting to grips with this now.
Although now the problem shows up as ;

"The Expression you entered refers to an object that is
closed
or
does
not
exist"


I have checked the name of the form and the tab is Summary
and
the
Sub
form
has a name SUB, which i changed the requery to reflect
either,
but
still
the
same error? (Forms!MAIN!Sub.Requery or Summary.Requery)
Any idea's. I really do appreciate this help. It's
getting
me
further
to
understand what is going wrong rather than just telling me
the
answer...

Thanks.

Neil M

in
message
Are you sure that the subform control (the subform control
is
the
control
on
the main form -- that control holds the subform object) is
named
Summary?
The name of this control may not be the same name as
the
form
that
is
the
subform object. Open the form in design view, click on the
top
edge
of
the
subform, open Properties window, and see what the name is
on
the
Other
tab.

Also, as I understand your setup, you're entering data in
the
popup
form
that you then want to be shown in the subform, right?
Let's
try
this
code
in
these events for the popup form.

Let's use the Click event of the button (SAVE and EXIT
button
that
you
put
on the form) to do this code (saves the record and closes
the
form):

Private Sub YourButtonsName_Click()
Me.Dirty = False
DoCmd.Close acForm, Me.Name, acSaveNo
End Sub

Then let's use the Close event of the popup form to run
this
code
(requeries
the main form's subform, if the names are correct):

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery
End Sub

The DoEvents statement is a way to tell ACCESS to "pause"
and
let
things
catch up. It returns control to the PC so that it can
do
other
things,
then
ACCESS regains control and continues. It's a common way to
let
things
finish
before the code continues.
--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>



What is the DoEvents command?

Also, just to let you know the subform still is not
updating????

Any other idea's?


Regards,

Neil
"Ken Snell [MVP]" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
Do the requery before you close.

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar,
acRecordsMenu,
acSaveRecord,
,
acMenuVer70
DoEvents
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery
DoCmd.Close


--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>



Actually got it exiting the form now, but my next
problem
is
that
the
list
is still not updating in Summary..

I close the pop-up form using a SAVE AND EXIT command
button
with
this
code;

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar,
acRecordsMenu,
acSaveRecord,
,
acMenuVer70
DoCmd.Close
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery

But the new record is still not being shown on the
summary
list
unless
i
update (using a combo box to list OPEN or CLOSED)

Any further help would be appreciated and I do
appreciate
all
the
help
thus
far

Thanks.

Neil



message

Thanks.
But now i'm getting this error:

Run-time error 438
Object doesn't support this property or method

My code is this;

Private Sub Form_Close()
[Forms]![Main]![Summary]![Sub].Requery
End Sub


Any further help would be appreciative

Thanks.
Neil

"Ken Snell [MVP]"

wrote
in
message
Use the Close event of the popup form to run this
code
step:

Forms!MAIN!SUMMARY.Requery

This assumes that the name of the subform control
(the
control
on
MAIN
that
is actually holding the subform object) is
named
SUMMARY.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

message

Hi all,

Ive asked this question before a different
way
but
got
no
resolution.

So here's my problem again, please advise on
alternative
workarounds
or
a
solution;

How do requery a subform on another form from a
seperate
form?

I have a MAIN form that display a datasheet
subform
named
SUMMARY
I click ADD on the main form and it brings up a
new
window
to
add
(or
edit)
the record.

but when the new window closes the subform
doesn't
update
with
the
new
information.
How do i update this subform after closing
the
NEWREC
form,
so
the
summary
subform updates with any new records just added
or
edited.
(the
summary
holds user id and a few other bits of info)
Clicking on the record id on the subform
opens
the
record
details,
which
works correctly at the moment.

Any extra help would be great - i want to try
and
finish
this
database
and
this is the only thing stopping me at the
moment.


Thanks,

Neil

 

[Neil M]

Ken,

Can you please send me a private email to (e-mail address removed)
so I have your private email address.

Thanks.

Neil

I'm sorry, but I will not post the full address here in the ng.....

I don't know any other way to explain it than what I've done... try it on
paper by crossing out characters and see which characters remain.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

sorry you have mean really confused now.
do you mean just every other letter as it still doesn't make sense like
that???

I may find that the first part is ksnell@ but cant seem to understand the
last part?!

i know im stupid - LOL
Sorry.

That email address is "munged" -- which means I've modified it from its real
address by adding extraneous characters. You can decipher the real email
address from it by removing the words this is not real from it... begin
at
the left side of the address, find the first t, remove it, then continue to
find the h, remove it, etc.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

so what is your email:
(e-mail address removed)

Sorry i don't understand remove the words - what words?

Thanks.
Neil M


Zip up the database (less than 2 MB as zip file) and email to me with
clear
instructions on which forms and controls are involved in the
question.
You
can extract my email address by removing the words this is not real from
my
reply-to email address.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

Now i'm getting the message:

Run-time error 2465
Can't find the field 'Subform/Subreport: Sub' referred top in your
expression.

Is there anyway I can send to you privately please so we can sort this
out
I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Neil

message
That is not what I posted:

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN![Subform/Subreport: Sub].Requery
End Sub

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

I've already tried that:

Forms!MAIN!Sub.Requery

and it still shows the same error?


message
OK, so the name of the subform control is "Subform/Subreport: Sub"?
Then
the
code would change to this:

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN![Subform/Subreport: Sub].Requery
End Sub

We don't need to include any reference to the tab page itself,
as
the
form
"owns" the controls on the tab page as well.
--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>




Access 2002 (10.6501.6735) SP3


message
Which version of ACCESS are you using?

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

The name states Subform/Subreport: Sub
(Summary is the page name (for the selected tab - on the
multitab
page)

Would it be easier for me to send you the database file, then
you
can
tell
me where i'm going wrong and i can explain to the group to
help
others
with
the possible same problem.

Thanks.
Neil

message
The error suggests that you're not using the correct name of
the
main
form
or the correct name of the subform control that is on
that
main
form.

I don't know what you mean by "the tab is Summary"? What was
the
name
in
the
Name property in the Other tab when you opened the Properties
window
after
clicking on the top of the subform while the main form is in
design
view?

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

Thanks. Think i'm getting to grips with this now.
Although now the problem shows up as ;

"The Expression you entered refers to an object that is
closed
or
does
not
exist"


I have checked the name of the form and the tab is Summary
and
the
Sub
form
has a name SUB, which i changed the requery to reflect
either,
but
still
the
same error? (Forms!MAIN!Sub.Requery or
Summary.Requery)
Any idea's. I really do appreciate this help. It's
getting
me
further
to
understand what is going wrong rather than just telling me
the
answer...

Thanks.

Neil M

in
message
Are you sure that the subform control (the subform control
is
the
control
on
the main form -- that control holds the subform
object) is
named
Summary?
The name of this control may not be the same name as
the
form
that
is
the
subform object. Open the form in design view, click on the
top
edge
of
the
subform, open Properties window, and see what the name is
on
the
Other
tab.

Also, as I understand your setup, you're entering data in
the
popup
form
that you then want to be shown in the subform, right?
Let's
try
this
code
in
these events for the popup form.

Let's use the Click event of the button (SAVE and EXIT
button
that
you
put
on the form) to do this code (saves the record and closes
the
form):

Private Sub YourButtonsName_Click()
Me.Dirty = False
DoCmd.Close acForm, Me.Name, acSaveNo
End Sub

Then let's use the Close event of the popup form to
run
this
code
(requeries
the main form's subform, if the names are correct):

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery
End Sub

The DoEvents statement is a way to tell ACCESS to "pause"
and
let
things
catch up. It returns control to the PC so that it can
do
other
things,
then
ACCESS regains control and continues. It's a common
way to
let
things
finish
before the code continues.
--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>



message
What is the DoEvents command?

Also, just to let you know the subform still is not
updating????

Any other idea's?


Regards,

Neil
"Ken Snell [MVP]" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
Do the requery before you close.

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar,
acRecordsMenu,
acSaveRecord,
,
acMenuVer70
DoEvents
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery
DoCmd.Close


--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>



Actually got it exiting the form now, but my next
problem
is
that
the
list
is still not updating in Summary..

I close the pop-up form using a SAVE AND EXIT command
button
with
this
code;

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar,
acRecordsMenu,
acSaveRecord,
,
acMenuVer70
DoCmd.Close
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery

But the new record is still not being shown on
the
summary
list
unless
i
update (using a combo box to list OPEN or CLOSED)

Any further help would be appreciated and I do
appreciate
all
the
help
thus
far

Thanks.

Neil



message

Thanks.
But now i'm getting this error:

Run-time error 438
Object doesn't support this property or method

My code is this;

Private Sub Form_Close()
[Forms]![Main]![Summary]![Sub].Requery
End Sub


Any further help would be appreciative

Thanks.
Neil

"Ken Snell [MVP]"

wrote
in
message
Use the Close event of the popup form to run this
code
step:

Forms!MAIN!SUMMARY.Requery

This assumes that the name of the subform control
(the
control
on
MAIN
that
is actually holding the subform object) is
named
SUMMARY.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

message

Hi all,

Ive asked this question before a different
way
but
got
no
resolution.

So here's my problem again, please advise on
alternative
workarounds
or
a
solution;

How do requery a subform on another form
from a
seperate
form?

I have a MAIN form that display a datasheet
subform
named
SUMMARY
I click ADD on the main form and it brings
up a
new
window
to
add
(or
edit)
the record.

but when the new window closes the subform
doesn't
update
with
the
new
information.
How do i update this subform after closing
the
NEWREC
form,
so
the
summary
subform updates with any new records just added
or
edited.
(the
summary
holds user id and a few other bits of info)
Clicking on the record id on the subform
opens
the
record
details,
which
works correctly at the moment.

Any extra help would be great - i want to
try
and
finish
this
database
and
this is the only thing stopping me at the
moment.


Thanks,

Neil

 

[Neil M]

Eric,

could you explain in code how to;

You can Freeze the current form, move to next record, requery the subform
and then close the current form.

Thanks,

Neil

 

[Neil M]

Think i have temp. solved this problem.

On the close of the popup form I just tried to add Close MAIN then OPEN Main
and now the new info gets inserted into the form.

Although if anyone can help me with 1-on-1 stuff I would be appreciative.
I will then add the help to the group so that others in the same boat can
get the problems fixed.

I would like to email the database to a person so they can tell me where I
am going wrong, as I have some other small problems that need fixing also.

Thanks,


Neil M

P.S.: My email address is; (e-mail address removed)

Are you sure that the subform control (the subform control is the control on
the main form -- that control holds the subform object) is named Summary?
The name of this control may not be the same name as the form that is the
subform object. Open the form in design view, click on the top edge of the
subform, open Properties window, and see what the name is on the Other tab.

Also, as I understand your setup, you're entering data in the popup form
that you then want to be shown in the subform, right? Let's try this code in
these events for the popup form.

Let's use the Click event of the button (SAVE and EXIT button that you put
on the form) to do this code (saves the record and closes the form):

Private Sub YourButtonsName_Click()
Me.Dirty = False
DoCmd.Close acForm, Me.Name, acSaveNo
End Sub

Then let's use the Close event of the popup form to run this code (requeries
the main form's subform, if the names are correct):

Private Sub Form_Close()
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery
End Sub

The DoEvents statement is a way to tell ACCESS to "pause" and let things
catch up. It returns control to the PC so that it can do other things, then
ACCESS regains control and continues. It's a common way to let things finish
before the code continues.
--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

What is the DoEvents command?

Also, just to let you know the subform still is not updating????

Any other idea's?


Regards,

Neil

Do the requery before you close.

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, acSaveRecord,
,
acMenuVer70
DoEvents
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery
DoCmd.Close


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Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>


Actually got it exiting the form now, but my next problem is that the list
is still not updating in Summary..

I close the pop-up form using a SAVE AND EXIT command button with this
code;

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu,

acSaveRecord,
,

acMenuVer70
DoCmd.Close
Forms!MAIN!Summary.Requery

But the new record is still not being shown on the summary list unless
i
update (using a combo box to list OPEN or CLOSED)

Any further help would be appreciated and I do appreciate all the help
thus
far

Thanks.

Neil



Thanks.
But now i'm getting this error:

Run-time error 438
Object doesn't support this property or method

My code is this;

Private Sub Form_Close()
[Forms]![Main]![Summary]![Sub].Requery
End Sub


Any further help would be appreciative

Thanks.
Neil

Use the Close event of the popup form to run this code step:

Forms!MAIN!SUMMARY.Requery

This assumes that the name of the subform control (the control on MAIN
that
is actually holding the subform object) is named SUMMARY.

--

Ken Snell
<MS ACCESS MVP>

Hi all,

Ive asked this question before a different way but got no resolution.

So here's my problem again, please advise on alternative workarounds
or
a
solution;

How do requery a subform on another form from a seperate form?

I have a MAIN form that display a datasheet subform named SUMMARY
I click ADD on the main form and it brings up a new window to

add
(or

edit)
the record.

but when the new window closes the subform doesn't update with the
new
information.
How do i update this subform after closing the NEWREC form, so the
summary
subform updates with any new records just added or edited. (the
summary
holds user id and a few other bits of info)
Clicking on the record id on the subform opens the record details,
which
works correctly at the moment.

Any extra help would be great - i want to try and finish this
database
and
this is the only thing stopping me at the moment.


Thanks,

Neil