How do I save word for mac in windows

G

Guest

On my wireless network, I can access my windows word documents from my mac,
but when I try to save the changes on the PC, it saves it to a backup
document. I have Office 2007 on the PC and Office for Mac (2004) on the Mac.
Is this compatibility problem solveable?
 
D

Daiya Mitchell

[cross-posting to the MacWord group for Mac input--be sure to reply to
*this* message at first so that information reaches both sets of experts]

This is not a compatibility problem between MacWord and WinWord
though--files from each can be opened and saved in both programs. Sounds
like an issue with your network.

Actually, your question doesn't make much sense to me--hard to picture
what's going on. Can you describe your wireless network a bit? and say
what you do, what you expect to happen, and be more specific about what
happens instead? What does "saves it to a backup document" mean?
 
G

Guest

OK. The PC and the Mac have access to the same wireless router. I can
access the PC as a server from the Mac through the wireless router and open
documents on the PC from the Mac. I set up two test documents on the PC, one
in Word 97, and one in Office Word 2007. The Word 97 documents will open
with Office Word for Mac, the Word 2007 documents will not but will open with
Pages which is a Mac word processing program. The problem is that when I
type anything into the open documents on either and try to save the to the
PC, all I accomplish is creating a back up document, not a change to the
original. When opened, the backup is just characters. What I am trying to
do is edit documents on the PC from the Mac and save the changes on the PC.
It is not working.

Daiya Mitchell said:
[cross-posting to the MacWord group for Mac input--be sure to reply to
*this* message at first so that information reaches both sets of experts]

This is not a compatibility problem between MacWord and WinWord
though--files from each can be opened and saved in both programs. Sounds
like an issue with your network.

Actually, your question doesn't make much sense to me--hard to picture
what's going on. Can you describe your wireless network a bit? and say
what you do, what you expect to happen, and be more specific about what
happens instead? What does "saves it to a backup document" mean?

On my wireless network, I can access my windows word documents from my mac,
but when I try to save the changes on the PC, it saves it to a backup
document. I have Office 2007 on the PC and Office for Mac (2004) on the Mac.
Is this compatibility problem solveable?
 
D

Daiya Mitchell

Here's one issue--Word 2007 creates docs in the new file format by
default, .docx. Word 2004 can only open those if you install the beta
converter, but Pages can open them. To eliminate that as an issue, use
Save As in Word 2007 to save the files as .doc (Word 97-2004 format), or
do all your testing with docs created in Word 97. The rest of it still
sounds like a server/network issue.

Hopefully a networking expert will be along. I've got no clue about the
rest of it. Some questions to help them diagnose:

You open a Word doc on the mac. You type into it. You hit Save. What
dialogs, error messages, etc, do you get? (Does it open as read-only?
Are you editing the document actually on the server/PC? If you copy the
document from the PC/server to the Mac, edit it, save, and copy it back,
does that work?)

What file extension does the "back up document" have? Where does Word
try to save it, in the same file as the original or somewhere else?

Wild guess--a Word document can open with "just characters" sometimes if
you use File | Open and the Open dropdown in the dialog is set to
Recover File from Any Text. Any chance that is happening?


OK. The PC and the Mac have access to the same wireless router. I can
access the PC as a server from the Mac through the wireless router and open
documents on the PC from the Mac. I set up two test documents on the PC, one
in Word 97, and one in Office Word 2007. The Word 97 documents will open
with Office Word for Mac, the Word 2007 documents will not but will open with
Pages which is a Mac word processing program. The problem is that when I
type anything into the open documents on either and try to save the to the
PC, all I accomplish is creating a back up document, not a change to the
original. When opened, the backup is just characters. What I am trying to
do is edit documents on the PC from the Mac and save the changes on the PC.
It is not working.

:

[cross-posting to the MacWord group for Mac input--be sure to reply to
*this* message at first so that information reaches both sets of experts]

This is not a compatibility problem between MacWord and WinWord
though--files from each can be opened and saved in both programs. Sounds
like an issue with your network.

Actually, your question doesn't make much sense to me--hard to picture
what's going on. Can you describe your wireless network a bit? and say
what you do, what you expect to happen, and be more specific about what
happens instead? What does "saves it to a backup document" mean?

On my wireless network, I can access my windows word documents from my mac,
but when I try to save the changes on the PC, it saves it to a backup
document. I have Office 2007 on the PC and Office for Mac (2004) on the Mac.
Is this compatibility problem solveable?
 
G

Guest

Yes, when I do get the document to open on the PC, it is just characters.

Daiya Mitchell said:
Here's one issue--Word 2007 creates docs in the new file format by
default, .docx. Word 2004 can only open those if you install the beta
converter, but Pages can open them. To eliminate that as an issue, use
Save As in Word 2007 to save the files as .doc (Word 97-2004 format), or
do all your testing with docs created in Word 97. The rest of it still
sounds like a server/network issue.

Hopefully a networking expert will be along. I've got no clue about the
rest of it. Some questions to help them diagnose:

You open a Word doc on the mac. You type into it. You hit Save. What
dialogs, error messages, etc, do you get? (Does it open as read-only?
Are you editing the document actually on the server/PC? If you copy the
document from the PC/server to the Mac, edit it, save, and copy it back,
does that work?)

What file extension does the "back up document" have? Where does Word
try to save it, in the same file as the original or somewhere else?

Wild guess--a Word document can open with "just characters" sometimes if
you use File | Open and the Open dropdown in the dialog is set to
Recover File from Any Text. Any chance that is happening?


OK. The PC and the Mac have access to the same wireless router. I can
access the PC as a server from the Mac through the wireless router and open
documents on the PC from the Mac. I set up two test documents on the PC, one
in Word 97, and one in Office Word 2007. The Word 97 documents will open
with Office Word for Mac, the Word 2007 documents will not but will open with
Pages which is a Mac word processing program. The problem is that when I
type anything into the open documents on either and try to save the to the
PC, all I accomplish is creating a back up document, not a change to the
original. When opened, the backup is just characters. What I am trying to
do is edit documents on the PC from the Mac and save the changes on the PC.
It is not working.

:

[cross-posting to the MacWord group for Mac input--be sure to reply to
*this* message at first so that information reaches both sets of experts]

This is not a compatibility problem between MacWord and WinWord
though--files from each can be opened and saved in both programs. Sounds
like an issue with your network.

Actually, your question doesn't make much sense to me--hard to picture
what's going on. Can you describe your wireless network a bit? and say
what you do, what you expect to happen, and be more specific about what
happens instead? What does "saves it to a backup document" mean?


Zinger wrote:

On my wireless network, I can access my windows word documents from my mac,
but when I try to save the changes on the PC, it saves it to a backup
document. I have Office 2007 on the PC and Office for Mac (2004) on the Mac.
Is this compatibility problem solveable?
 
D

Daiya Mitchell

Ah, okay. But do you use File | Open to open it? And if you do, can you
please check the Open dropdown (might have a slightly different name) in
the File | Open dialog and see if it is set to Recover Text with Any
File? If it is, change it to something else and see if the problem
persists. And which version of Word are you opening it in?

Also, I asked some other questions, because I figured the answers would
help people who do know networks figure out what is going on. Unless
this is a problem they have seen before and can instantly recognize,
reporting exactly what you do that doesn't work and the error messages
you get will probably save some time.
Yes, when I do get the document to open on the PC, it is just characters.

:

Here's one issue--Word 2007 creates docs in the new file format by
default, .docx. Word 2004 can only open those if you install the beta
converter, but Pages can open them. To eliminate that as an issue, use
Save As in Word 2007 to save the files as .doc (Word 97-2004 format), or
do all your testing with docs created in Word 97. The rest of it still
sounds like a server/network issue.

Hopefully a networking expert will be along. I've got no clue about the
rest of it. Some questions to help them diagnose:

You open a Word doc on the mac. You type into it. You hit Save. What
dialogs, error messages, etc, do you get? (Does it open as read-only?
Are you editing the document actually on the server/PC? If you copy the
document from the PC/server to the Mac, edit it, save, and copy it back,
does that work?)

What file extension does the "back up document" have? Where does Word
try to save it, in the same file as the original or somewhere else?

Wild guess--a Word document can open with "just characters" sometimes if
you use File | Open and the Open dropdown in the dialog is set to
Recover File from Any Text. Any chance that is happening?


OK. The PC and the Mac have access to the same wireless router. I can
access the PC as a server from the Mac through the wireless router and open
documents on the PC from the Mac. I set up two test documents on the PC, one
in Word 97, and one in Office Word 2007. The Word 97 documents will open
with Office Word for Mac, the Word 2007 documents will not but will open with
Pages which is a Mac word processing program. The problem is that when I
type anything into the open documents on either and try to save the to the
PC, all I accomplish is creating a back up document, not a change to the
original. When opened, the backup is just characters. What I am trying to
do is edit documents on the PC from the Mac and save the changes on the PC.
It is not working.

:



[cross-posting to the MacWord group for Mac input--be sure to reply to
*this* message at first so that information reaches both sets of experts]

This is not a compatibility problem between MacWord and WinWord
though--files from each can be opened and saved in both programs. Sounds
like an issue with your network.

Actually, your question doesn't make much sense to me--hard to picture
what's going on. Can you describe your wireless network a bit? and say
what you do, what you expect to happen, and be more specific about what
happens instead? What does "saves it to a backup document" mean?


Zinger wrote:


On my wireless network, I can access my windows word documents from my mac,
but when I try to save the changes on the PC, it saves it to a backup
document. I have Office 2007 on the PC and Office for Mac (2004) on the Mac.
Is this compatibility problem solveable?
 
W

William Smith

Zinger said:
Yes, when I do get the document to open on the PC, it is just characters.

By any chance to you happen to have the document open on both machines
at the same time? In the Windows world you'd probably receive a message
that one machine will be read-only, but IIRC when connecting a Mac to a
Windows machine via SMB (using Windows file sharing) you don't get this
message.

I'm going to reiterate Daiya's questions. What are you referring to as a
backup document? Do you mean the working file between saves that begins
with a tilde " ~ "? If your document is named "MyFile.doc" then what is
the name of the "backup" file that you're referring to?

Also, what is "just characters"?

--

bill

William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>
 
L

little_creature

Hello Zinger,
The problem is that when I
type anything into the open documents on either and try to save the to
the
PC, all I accomplish is creating a back up document, not a change to
the
original.

Does this happen for both the Word file formats - eg. bot the docx
(2007) and doc (97) or only for the 2007? (if only for that docx than
you are looking into Pages backup files rather than to WORD)

Just to make it clear if you have file called "hello.doc" - WORD PC
backup file is called "backup of hello.wbk" but on Mac "backup of
hello.doc" is created so these are the backup files, are referring to
these files?
 

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