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M

Martin

PLEASE!! Can somebody help with some advice!!!

Setup: 3 PC's at home, all networked via hub and ADSL router.

PC1 - Windows XP Pro SP2
PC2 & 3 - Windows 98SE

OK, so PC1 has 3 logon names plus the Guest account set. PC2 has 2 of those
3 names, and PC3 only has 1 of them, passwords for the various logons are
the same across the PC's (i.e. #1 on PC1 is the same as #1 on PC2 and #1 on
PC3, #3 on PC1 is the same as #2 on PC2, #1 on PC1 same as #1 on PC3)..

So, from PC1 I can map the shared folders on PC2 & 3, yet I can't see either
PC2 or 3 from the "View Workgroup Computers" option in My Network Places.

On PC2 & 3, however, you can't map the shared folders on PC1 and can't see
PC1 in Network Neighbourhood.

You can ping each PC fine...

IP addresses are in the order 192.168.1.x with the ADSL modem/router playing
DHCP server and default gateway. PC1 has static IP in the above range and
PC2 & 3 are assigned IP by router. All 3 PC's talk to the router and modem
fine, and as I said you can ping each one from each other one. All 3 also
run Zone Alarm Pro and have the PC name of the other PCs listed as Trusted
in the Zones list of the Firewall section. RealPopup also runs on all 3 and
can send messages via the network fine.....

So, what is wrong here?? Any suggestions very much welcomed!
 
C

Chuck

PLEASE!! Can somebody help with some advice!!!

Setup: 3 PC's at home, all networked via hub and ADSL router.

PC1 - Windows XP Pro SP2
PC2 & 3 - Windows 98SE

OK, so PC1 has 3 logon names plus the Guest account set. PC2 has 2 of those
3 names, and PC3 only has 1 of them, passwords for the various logons are
the same across the PC's (i.e. #1 on PC1 is the same as #1 on PC2 and #1 on
PC3, #3 on PC1 is the same as #2 on PC2, #1 on PC1 same as #1 on PC3)..

So, from PC1 I can map the shared folders on PC2 & 3, yet I can't see either
PC2 or 3 from the "View Workgroup Computers" option in My Network Places.

On PC2 & 3, however, you can't map the shared folders on PC1 and can't see
PC1 in Network Neighbourhood.

You can ping each PC fine...

IP addresses are in the order 192.168.1.x with the ADSL modem/router playing
DHCP server and default gateway. PC1 has static IP in the above range and
PC2 & 3 are assigned IP by router. All 3 PC's talk to the router and modem
fine, and as I said you can ping each one from each other one. All 3 also
run Zone Alarm Pro and have the PC name of the other PCs listed as Trusted
in the Zones list of the Firewall section. RealPopup also runs on all 3 and
can send messages via the network fine.....

So, what is wrong here?? Any suggestions very much welcomed!
Click to expand...

Martin,

If you're having a problem "seeing" various computers from each other (listed in
Network Neighborhood), the problem most likely involves the browser (no I am not
talking about Internet Explorer). The browsers for Win9x/ME, and for
WinNT/2K/XP, do not work well together on a LAN.

Make sure all 3 computers are in the same workgroup first.

Make sure the browser service is stopped on the WinXP computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser shows with
Status = Stopped and Disabled. Start the browser on both Win98 computers.
Power all 3 computers off. Power the 2 Win98 computers on, then power the WinXP
computer on.
<http://cms.simons-rock.edu/faq_by_subtopic/node138.html>

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers give the same result.

For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

If that's not it, provide ipconfig information for each computer, and we'll
diagnose the problem.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.
 
S

Steven L Umbach

First make sure the built in firewall on XP is disabled. On all the
computers modify the trusted zone in Zone Alarm so that the local subnet is
in the trusted zone also which would be 192.168.1.0 subnet 255.255.255.0 in
your case. If that does not help and since you are behind a NAT router try
disabling the Zone Alarm firewall on all the computers for at least a couple
hours to see if that helps. Run the nbtstat -n command on all three
computers to see if at least three netbios names are registered on each and
one should have four. Each computer should have at least an entry for server
[20 unique], workstation [00 unique], and groupname [00 group] and one
computer have an entry for master browser. --- Steve
 
M

Martin

[SNIP]

OK, here we go.. I'll work on just 2 of the computers first as they are
both inside the house and the 3rd is down in the shed, and is usually turned
off anyway...
Martin,

If you're having a problem "seeing" various computers from each other
(listed in
Network Neighborhood), the problem most likely involves the browser (no I
am not
talking about Internet Explorer). The browsers for Win9x/ME, and for
WinNT/2K/XP, do not work well together on a LAN.

Make sure all 3 computers are in the same workgroup first.
Click to expand...

All computers are in the workgroup "MSHome"
Make sure the browser service is stopped on the WinXP computer. Control
Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser shows
with
Status = Stopped and Disabled. Start the browser on both Win98 computers.
Power all 3 computers off. Power the 2 Win98 computers on, then power the
WinXP
computer on.
<http://cms.simons-rock.edu/faq_by_subtopic/node138.html>
Click to expand...

OK, so I have disabled the XP (PC name "Family") browser and started it on
the 98SE machine (PC name "Jess"). From the 98SE machine in Network
Neighbourhood I can see both computers on the network, HOWEVER! When I
double-click on the XP machine ("Family") I get the error message "
\\Family is not accessible. The computer or sharename could not be found. "

On the XP machine, in My Computer I can map the shared directories on the
98SE machine without any problem, HOWEVER when I go to My Network Places
and click on View Workgroup Computers I get the error message "Mshome is not
accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource."
Yes, I am the Administrator on the XP machine....
If that's not it, provide ipconfig information for each computer, and
we'll
diagnose the problem.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the
command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word
Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post.
Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig
listing.
Click to expand...

OK - XP Machine ("Family"). XP Pro, version 2002, Service Pack 2.
IP Config:

Windows IP Configeration:

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FAMILY
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter MSHome Network:

Connection-specific DNS suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-87-15-7F-5D
DHCP Enabled . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
Subney Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1


98SE Machine ("Jess").

1. Ethernet adapter

Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . : 00-40-05-57-1F-19
DHCP Enabled. . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway. . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server:
Secondary WINS Server:
Lease obtained . . . . . : 12 09 04 3:53:25 PM
Lease expires . . . . . . :


Also, as per Stevens suggestions, the XP firewall is disabled (always has
been) and the relevant local subnet is in the trusted zone on each ZA Pro.
The "nbtstat" command revealed the results indicated as needed...

So, what next? What confuses me is that on the 98SE the 2 computers are
visible in NN, yet the XP can't be accessed, and on the XP machine the
shared directories on the 98SE machine can be mapped, written to and read
from, yet the machine can't be seen as part of the workgroup...... Is this
strange?????????

TIA
 
C

Chuck

[SNIP]

OK, here we go.. I'll work on just 2 of the computers first as they are
both inside the house and the 3rd is down in the shed, and is usually turned
off anyway...
Martin,

If you're having a problem "seeing" various computers from each other
(listed in
Network Neighborhood), the problem most likely involves the browser (no I
am not
talking about Internet Explorer). The browsers for Win9x/ME, and for
WinNT/2K/XP, do not work well together on a LAN.

Make sure all 3 computers are in the same workgroup first.
Click to expand...

All computers are in the workgroup "MSHome"
Make sure the browser service is stopped on the WinXP computer. Control
Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser shows
with
Status = Stopped and Disabled. Start the browser on both Win98 computers.
Power all 3 computers off. Power the 2 Win98 computers on, then power the
WinXP
computer on.
<http://cms.simons-rock.edu/faq_by_subtopic/node138.html>
Click to expand...

OK, so I have disabled the XP (PC name "Family") browser and started it on
the 98SE machine (PC name "Jess"). From the 98SE machine in Network
Neighbourhood I can see both computers on the network, HOWEVER! When I
double-click on the XP machine ("Family") I get the error message "
\\Family is not accessible. The computer or sharename could not be found. "

On the XP machine, in My Computer I can map the shared directories on the
98SE machine without any problem, HOWEVER when I go to My Network Places
and click on View Workgroup Computers I get the error message "Mshome is not
accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource."
Yes, I am the Administrator on the XP machine....
If that's not it, provide ipconfig information for each computer, and
we'll
diagnose the problem.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the
command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word
Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post.
Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig
listing.
Click to expand...

OK - XP Machine ("Family"). XP Pro, version 2002, Service Pack 2.
IP Config:

Windows IP Configeration:

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FAMILY
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter MSHome Network:

Connection-specific DNS suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-87-15-7F-5D
DHCP Enabled . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
Subney Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1


98SE Machine ("Jess").

1. Ethernet adapter

Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . : 00-40-05-57-1F-19
DHCP Enabled. . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway. . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server:
Secondary WINS Server:
Lease obtained . . . . . : 12 09 04 3:53:25 PM
Lease expires . . . . . . :


Also, as per Stevens suggestions, the XP firewall is disabled (always has
been) and the relevant local subnet is in the trusted zone on each ZA Pro.
The "nbtstat" command revealed the results indicated as needed...

So, what next? What confuses me is that on the 98SE the 2 computers are
visible in NN, yet the XP can't be accessed, and on the XP machine the
shared directories on the 98SE machine can be mapped, written to and read
from, yet the machine can't be seen as part of the workgroup...... Is this
strange?????????
Click to expand...

Martin,

As Steven suggested, if there is a firewall interfering, it either has to be
properly configured or un installed. Many personal firewalls (other than XP SP2
Windows Firewall) may cause problems, even when disabled. Do you have any
security products, like Norton Internet Security or McAfee Internet
SecuritySuite? A bundled firewall frequently turns out to be the problem in
some cases.

Did you power both computers off after disabling / enabling the browser?

Please provide browstat information for each computer? Let's see what the
browser situation is.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste into your next post.

Is the third computer powered off as you work on the first two?
 
M

Martin

Chuck said:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:37:38 +1100, "Martin"
Click to expand...
[SNIP]

OK - I've partly managed to get things working. By powering up 98SE first
or resetting XP machine after 98SE machine boots I can now see the 98SE
machine from the My Network Places on XP machine.. All seems fine there..

HOWEVER - the 98SE machine still doing the same - it see's the XP machine in
Network Neighbourhood, yet when you click on the XP machine it tells you its
not accessible.....

Here's your last questions answered:
Martin,

As Steven suggested, if there is a firewall interfering, it either has to
be
properly configured or un installed. Many personal firewalls (other than
XP SP2
Windows Firewall) may cause problems, even when disabled. Do you have any
security products, like Norton Internet Security or McAfee Internet
SecuritySuite? A bundled firewall frequently turns out to be the problem
in
some cases.
Click to expand...

Only firewall running on all machines is ZoneAlarm Pro, and I have disabled
that on both without any change whatsoever. No other security software
running during trials. ZA Pro has been setup to allow network comms from
the 3 PC's..
Did you power both computers off after disabling / enabling the browser?

Yes...

Please provide browstat information for each computer? Let's see what the
browser situation is.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the
command
window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word
Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste into your next post.
Click to expand...

Hmm - browstat doesn't want to run on the 98SE machine - keeps giving me an
error message (missing file?), so I'll look at that tomorrow and try to
figure it out (daughter kicked me out of her room tonight!!!) I know this
is probably the info you need given the above problems, so I wont expect any
more suggestions until I can get these results from this PC..

From the XP computer the browstat result is:


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: JESS
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\JESS . Version:04.00 Flags: 452003 WFW POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master JESS
\\JESS
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}

Is the third computer powered off as you work on the first two?
Click to expand...

Yep, totally powered off..
 
C

Chuck

Chuck said:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:37:38 +1100, "Martin"
Click to expand...
[SNIP]

OK - I've partly managed to get things working. By powering up 98SE first
or resetting XP machine after 98SE machine boots I can now see the 98SE
machine from the My Network Places on XP machine.. All seems fine there..

HOWEVER - the 98SE machine still doing the same - it see's the XP machine in
Network Neighbourhood, yet when you click on the XP machine it tells you its
not accessible.....

Here's your last questions answered:
Martin,

As Steven suggested, if there is a firewall interfering, it either has to
be
properly configured or un installed. Many personal firewalls (other than
XP SP2
Windows Firewall) may cause problems, even when disabled. Do you have any
security products, like Norton Internet Security or McAfee Internet
SecuritySuite? A bundled firewall frequently turns out to be the problem
in
some cases.
Click to expand...

Only firewall running on all machines is ZoneAlarm Pro, and I have disabled
that on both without any change whatsoever. No other security software
running during trials. ZA Pro has been setup to allow network comms from
the 3 PC's..
Did you power both computers off after disabling / enabling the browser?

Yes...

Please provide browstat information for each computer? Let's see what the
browser situation is.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the
command
window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word
Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste into your next post.
Click to expand...

Hmm - browstat doesn't want to run on the 98SE machine - keeps giving me an
error message (missing file?), so I'll look at that tomorrow and try to
figure it out (daughter kicked me out of her room tonight!!!) I know this
is probably the info you need given the above problems, so I wont expect any
more suggestions until I can get these results from this PC..

From the XP computer the browstat result is:


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: JESS
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\JESS . Version:04.00 Flags: 452003 WFW POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master JESS
\\JESS
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}

Is the third computer powered off as you work on the first two?
Click to expand...

Yep, totally powered off..
Click to expand...

Which computer has Zone Alarm? Did you un install it using:
<http://nh2.nohold.net/noHoldCust25/Prod_1/Articles55646/CompleteUninstallNonNT.html

Now read more about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

On Family, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel - Folder Options -
View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro, you need to have
SFS properly set on Family.

Do you trust Jess completely, or do you intend to have some files on Family that
she should not be able to access from her computer? If you wish to protect some
files on Family, you will want to use authenticated access, and disable Simple
File Sharing. I don't know your needs, so read this carefully.

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

Also, if you're going to use authenticated access from Jess, make sure to sign
in completely. Don't hit Esc when asked for a username and password.

On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run -
"cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window.

On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local
Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment,
on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the
network". Make sure Guest is not in the list.
 
M

Martin

Martin said:
PLEASE!! Can somebody help with some advice!!!

Setup: 3 PC's at home, all networked via hub and ADSL router.

PC1 - Windows XP Pro SP2
PC2 & 3 - Windows 98SE

OK, so PC1 has 3 logon names plus the Guest account set. PC2 has 2 of
those 3 names, and PC3 only has 1 of them, passwords for the various
logons are the same across the PC's (i.e. #1 on PC1 is the same as #1 on
PC2 and #1 on PC3, #3 on PC1 is the same as #2 on PC2, #1 on PC1 same as
#1 on PC3)..

So, from PC1 I can map the shared folders on PC2 & 3, yet I can't see
either PC2 or 3 from the "View Workgroup Computers" option in My Network
Places.

On PC2 & 3, however, you can't map the shared folders on PC1 and can't see
PC1 in Network Neighbourhood.

You can ping each PC fine...

IP addresses are in the order 192.168.1.x with the ADSL modem/router
playing DHCP server and default gateway. PC1 has static IP in the above
range and PC2 & 3 are assigned IP by router. All 3 PC's talk to the
router and modem fine, and as I said you can ping each one from each other
one. All 3 also run Zone Alarm Pro and have the PC name of the other PCs
listed as Trusted in the Zones list of the Firewall section. RealPopup
also runs on all 3 and can send messages via the network fine.....

So, what is wrong here?? Any suggestions very much welcomed!
Click to expand...

OK, so latest update here - let's take this back to just two computers (for
simplicity) - 1x XP Pro SP2 and 1 x 98SE.

I've tried stopping the browser on 98 and starting it on XP (and also vice
versa). Also set simple file sharing on XP. Still I can map (and
read+write to) the shared folders on 98SE, but can't see 98SE in My Network
Places (even if I view Workgroup Computers it doesn't show up). Browsing
the network at all doesn't show the 98 machine. From 98SE, the XP machine
just doesn't appear at all - not even shared folders are accessible! I can
still ping each machine no problems.

Below is the result of ipconfig /all and browstat status on each PC - I
note that the 98SE gives me an error with browstat, could that be the
problem???

**From the XP machine:

*ipconfig /all:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FAMILY
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter MSHome Network:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-87-15-7F-5D
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

*browstate status:

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: FAMILY
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master FAMILY
\\FAMILY
Unable to retrieve server list from FAMILY: 64


**Now, to the 98SE machine:

*ipconfig /all:

Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : JESS
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-40-05-57-1F-19
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 12 21 04 3:02:23 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :


* browstate status: Gives the following error:

The BROWSTAT.EXE file is
linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:I_BrowserQueryEmulatedDomains


So, can anyone with more knowledge than me suggest the next move???????

TIA
 
C

Chuck

OK, so latest update here - let's take this back to just two computers (for
simplicity) - 1x XP Pro SP2 and 1 x 98SE.

I've tried stopping the browser on 98 and starting it on XP (and also vice
versa). Also set simple file sharing on XP. Still I can map (and
read+write to) the shared folders on 98SE, but can't see 98SE in My Network
Places (even if I view Workgroup Computers it doesn't show up). Browsing
the network at all doesn't show the 98 machine. From 98SE, the XP machine
just doesn't appear at all - not even shared folders are accessible! I can
still ping each machine no problems.

Below is the result of ipconfig /all and browstat status on each PC - I
note that the 98SE gives me an error with browstat, could that be the
problem???

**From the XP machine:

*ipconfig /all:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FAMILY
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter MSHome Network:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-87-15-7F-5D
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

*browstate status:

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: FAMILY
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master FAMILY
\\FAMILY
Unable to retrieve server list from FAMILY: 64


**Now, to the 98SE machine:

*ipconfig /all:

Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : JESS
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-40-05-57-1F-19
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 12 21 04 3:02:23 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :


* browstate status: Gives the following error:

The BROWSTAT.EXE file is
linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:I_BrowserQueryEmulatedDomains


So, can anyone with more knowledge than me suggest the next move???????
Click to expand...

Martin,

Browstat only runs on a WinNT based OS.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

Try:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx

But I'll bet your problem is at least partly caused by your subnet setup.

Win XP:
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Win98:
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Click to expand...

The subnet mask on the WinXP system, "255.255.255.0", looks normal - but you're
not using DHCP there? The subnet mask on the Win98 system, "255.0.0.0", is
dodgy, but you're using DHCP. Please explain. Why is Family not using DHCP?
What is the LAN setup on the router?

Next, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value
restrictanonymous.
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and Win2K
is NT V5.0.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might
help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.

From the Annoyances article:
You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a
branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and
press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad
(right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry
patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the
registry.
 
M

Martin

[SNIP for brevity]
Martin,

Browstat only runs on a WinNT based OS.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

Try:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx

But I'll bet your problem is at least partly caused by your subnet setup.

Win XP:

The subnet mask on the WinXP system, "255.255.255.0", looks normal - but
you're
not using DHCP there? The subnet mask on the Win98 system, "255.0.0.0",
is
dodgy, but you're using DHCP. Please explain. Why is Family not using
DHCP?
What is the LAN setup on the router?
Click to expand...

Hmm, hadn't noticed that bit!!

The reason that XP is assigned and 98 is DHCP is because I need to maintain
the same IP address on the XP machine due to port forwarding settings on the
router/modem for a particular programme, and I thought that assigning an IP
address was the best way to ensure that it didn't change and stop that
programme from working - is this accurate or was this logic flawed??

The 98SE machine is DHCP assigned because if I set the IP address manually
it stops communicating with the modem/router and the network, totally, even
if the IP address I manually assign is the same as the one assigned by DHCP.

I am open to alternatives here. I have a programme on XP machine that needs
port forwarding set on the modem/router to work, and I have to specify what
IP address the ports are forwarded to - that is my only requirement there
and so far the way this is set up is the only way I have found to get that
programme working!

The LAN settings in the router specify the subnet mask as 255.255.255.0

In 98SE how can you change the subnet mask settings if it is set to obtain
IP address automatically?

Next, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa],
value
restrictanonymous.
Click to expand...

The value is set to 0 (0x00000000). From what I can gather this is where we
need it?????

<http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and
Win2K
is NT V5.0.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but
it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that
might
help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>
Click to expand...

Yeah, I've played with that monstrosity before... try to avoid it but
sometimes it's just necessary!

Here's some more results for you:

**Win98 machine:
*nbtstat -n

Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.5] Scope Id: []
NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
JESS <00> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered
JESS <03> UNIQUE Registered
JESS <20> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered
JESSEE <03> UNIQUE Registered


*net view /workgroup:MSHOME

Error 6118: The computer(s) sharing resources in this workgroup cannot be
located. The computer(s) might have been restarted. Wait a few minutes, and
then try again. If the problem persists, make sure your network-adapter
settings are correct.


**XP Machine

*nbtstat -n

MSHome Network:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.13] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
FAMILY <00> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered
FAMILY <20> UNIQUE Registered
FAMILY <03> UNIQUE Registered
MARTIN <03> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered
MSHOME <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered



Thanks for your continued patience!!!!

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.

From the Annoyances article:
You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting
a
branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename,
and
press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in
Notepad
(right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a
Registry
patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it
to the
registry.
Click to expand...
 
M

Martin

Martin said:
[SNIP for brevity]
Martin,

Browstat only runs on a WinNT based OS.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

Try:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx

But I'll bet your problem is at least partly caused by your subnet setup.

Win XP:

The subnet mask on the WinXP system, "255.255.255.0", looks normal - but
you're
not using DHCP there? The subnet mask on the Win98 system, "255.0.0.0",
is
dodgy, but you're using DHCP. Please explain. Why is Family not using
DHCP?
What is the LAN setup on the router?
Click to expand...

Hmm, hadn't noticed that bit!!

The reason that XP is assigned and 98 is DHCP is because I need to
maintain the same IP address on the XP machine due to port forwarding
settings on the router/modem for a particular programme, and I thought
that assigning an IP address was the best way to ensure that it didn't
change and stop that programme from working - is this accurate or was this
logic flawed??

The 98SE machine is DHCP assigned because if I set the IP address manually
it stops communicating with the modem/router and the network, totally,
even if the IP address I manually assign is the same as the one assigned
by DHCP.

I am open to alternatives here. I have a programme on XP machine that
needs port forwarding set on the modem/router to work, and I have to
specify what IP address the ports are forwarded to - that is my only
requirement there and so far the way this is set up is the only way I have
found to get that programme working!
Click to expand...

OK, I have set the XP machine back to automatic IP, but no change in
operations. The ipconfig /all for the WinXP Pro SP2 machine is now (after
all the changes):

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FAMILY
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter MSHome Network:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-87-15-7F-5D
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, 23 December 2004
10:23:53
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, 9 May 2032 10:23:53
The LAN settings in the router specify the subnet mask as 255.255.255.0

In 98SE how can you change the subnet mask settings if it is set to obtain
IP address automatically?

Next, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa],
value
restrictanonymous.
Click to expand...

The value is set to 0 (0x00000000). From what I can gather this is where
we need it?????

<http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and
Win2K
is NT V5.0.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but
it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that
might
help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>
Click to expand...

Yeah, I've played with that monstrosity before... try to avoid it but
sometimes it's just necessary!

Here's some more results for you:

**Win98 machine:
*nbtstat -n

Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.5] Scope Id: []
NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
JESS <00> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered
JESS <03> UNIQUE Registered
JESS <20> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered
JESSEE <03> UNIQUE Registered


*net view /workgroup:MSHOME

Error 6118: The computer(s) sharing resources in this workgroup cannot be
located. The computer(s) might have been restarted. Wait a few minutes,
and
then try again. If the problem persists, make sure your network-adapter
settings are correct.


**XP Machine

*nbtstat -n

MSHome Network:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.13] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
FAMILY <00> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered
FAMILY <20> UNIQUE Registered
FAMILY <03> UNIQUE Registered
MARTIN <03> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered
MSHOME <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered



Thanks for your continued patience!!!!
Click to expand...
 
M

Martin

Sorry Chuck, wasn't sure if my replies got through or not as they didn't
show up at my end after posting....

Anyway, to answer your last questions:

Ihadn't noticed the 98SE machine subnet mask of 255.0.0.0 before - the DHCP
server settings on the router/modem are for a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0,
so why the 98SE machine is different I don't know. It is configured for
full auto IP, is there a way to change the subnet mask in 98SE when it is
set to obtain auto IP? I can't assign IP address on the 98SE as if I do,
even if I use the exact same IP address as it's using now, it can no longer
access the internet or network for some reason - it only works when set to
auto IP....

The reason that XP is assigned and 98 is DHCP is because I need to maintain
the same IP address on the XP machine due to port forwarding settings on the
router/modem for a particular programme, and I thought that assigning an IP
address was the best way to ensure that it didn't change and stop that
programme from working - is this accurate or was this logic flawed??

To test this I changed the XP Pro machine to auto IP and rebooted - no
change. I also amended the registry for the NodeType entry to value 1
(broadcast), but still no change in behaviour. The ipconfig /all results
for the XP Pro SP2 machine are now:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FAMILY
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter MSHome Network:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-87-15-7F-5D
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, 23 December 2004
10:23:53
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, 9 May 2032 10:23:53

Next, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa],
value
restrictanonymous.
Click to expand...

The value is set to 0 (0x00000000). From what I can gather this is where we
need it?????

Here's some more results for you:

**Win98SE machine:
*nbtstat -n

Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.5] Scope Id: []
NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
JESS <00> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered
JESS <03> UNIQUE Registered
JESS <20> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered
JESSEE <03> UNIQUE Registered


*net view /workgroup:MSHOME

Error 6118: The computer(s) sharing resources in this workgroup cannot be
located. The computer(s) might have been restarted. Wait a few minutes, and
then try again. If the problem persists, make sure your network-adapter
settings are correct.


**XP Pro SP2 Machine

*nbtstat -n

MSHome Network:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.13] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
FAMILY <00> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered
FAMILY <20> UNIQUE Registered
FAMILY <03> UNIQUE Registered
MARTIN <03> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered
MSHOME <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered



Thanks for your continued patience!!!!

Martin.
 

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