Hidden files?

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Chrisooo

My C Dive shows 13.9GB used with 917MB free. When I look at the folders in C
(Documents and Settings; tempo; Program Files; Windows) the largest folder
size is Program Files at 1.18GB. Where is the data being stored that is
eating up so much room if not in these folders? Please advise.
 
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Paul

Chrisooo said:
My C Dive shows 13.9GB used with 917MB free. When I look at the folders in C
(Documents and Settings; tempo; Program Files; Windows) the largest folder
size is Program Files at 1.18GB. Where is the data being stored that is
eating up so much room if not in these folders? Please advise.

It could be your system restore stuff.

Try Sequoiaview, an application that graphically represents files on your drive.
You can hold your mouse over a rectangle, and it shows the file name. This
is great for quickly identifying "hogs".

http://w3.win.tue.nl/nl/onderzoek/onderzoek_informatica/visualization/sequoiaview/

Paul
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Chrisooo said:
My C Dive shows 13.9GB used with 917MB free. When I look at the folders in
C
(Documents and Settings; tempo; Program Files; Windows) the largest folder
size is Program Files at 1.18GB. Where is the data being stored that is
eating up so much room if not in these folders? Please advise.


Have you enabled Show Hidden Files? Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.
 
C

Chrisooo

I haven't tried Sequoiaview however I did download HDGraph and it sounds like
they accomplish the same thing. Are you familiar with HDGraph? I just ran it
and it paints a different picture...Windows 5.81GB and Program Files 3.69 and
something called RECYCLER at 942MB. Do these sizes make sense to you? If it's
not obvious I'm way out of my depth here.

Thnaks for your feedback
 
C

Chrisooo

I did confirm that hidden files should be shown.

Bruce Hagen said:
Chrisooo said:
My C Dive shows 13.9GB used with 917MB free. When I look at the folders in
C
(Documents and Settings; tempo; Program Files; Windows) the largest folder
size is Program Files at 1.18GB. Where is the data being stored that is
eating up so much room if not in these folders? Please advise.


Have you enabled Show Hidden Files? Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer |
Tools | Folder Options | View.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
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Shenan Stanley

Chrisooo said:
My C Dive shows 13.9GB used with 917MB free. When I look at the
folders in C (Documents and Settings; tempo; Program Files;
Windows) the largest folder size is Program Files at 1.18GB. Where
is the data being stored that is eating up so much room if not in
these folders? Please advise

Download/install this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button --> RUN --> type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
--> Click OK.

(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing should be exact.)

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
( Particularly of interest here - #4 )
( Alternative: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm )

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 64MB and 128MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

In the end - a standard Windows XP installation with all sorts of extras
will not likely be above about 4.5GB to 9GB in size. If you have more space
than that (likely do on a modern machine) and most of it seems to be used -
likely you need to move *your stuff* off and/or find a better way to manage
it.
 
G

Gerry

Chrisooo

Why not empty your Recycle Bin?

Try cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk
CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner only
needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.

Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

You can create more free space in C by
carrying any of the measures suggested below.

The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

A default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary internet
files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. The
default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to offline
copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select
Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to
make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history is
held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.

If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of
your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows
folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$
etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed
the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not
compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and
select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress
contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount
gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder
compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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