Hidden Costs of a Windows Vista Upgrade

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Ablang

Hidden Costs of a Windows Vista Upgrade
If you're putting Vista on a PC yourself, you need to read this.
Preston Gralla, PC World
Monday, February 12, 2007 01:00 AM PST

The shiny, new Windows Vista beckons, and an upgrade is mighty
tempting. But before you take the plunge, be aware that you may end up
forking out a lot more money than just the cost of an operating system
upgrade. Here are 15 reasons to upgrade and here are 6 on why you
should wait on Vista.

A lot more than just cash is on the line as well, because you may also
spend plenty of time upgrading your hardware to make sure it's Vista-
ready. Read on before you upgrade; being forewarned is being
forearmed.
The High Cost of Hardware

If you're upgrading to Windows Vista, the first cash outlay you likely
face is buying more RAM for your PC. Microsoft says that you can run
Windows Vista with 512 megabytes of RAM, but don't believe it. It's
simply not worth running Windows Vista on a machine with less than 1
gigabyte of RAM. In fact, you'd be a lot happier with 2GB.

How much will that much RAM cost you? Figure that you can get 1GB of
RAM for as low as a little over $100, while 2GB will run you $180 and
up.

Even if you have enough RAM, your existing graphics card may not be up
to snuff, because Vista is graphics-hungry. If you want to run its
Aero environment, you'll need a good graphics card.

There are two levels of Vista hardware compatibility: "Vista Capable,"
and "Vista Premium Ready." Forget Vista Capable; it won't run Aero,
and if you can't run Aero, you shouldn't bother upgrading to Windows
Vista.

So you need a graphics card that is Vista Premium Ready. To be Premium
Ready, a PC needs a graphics card with support for DirectX 9 graphics
with a WDDM driver, a minimum of 128MB of graphics memory, and what's
called Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel. There's no room in this
story to delve into each of these specs, but the key is the support
for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, and a minimum of 128MB of
graphics memory. Before buying a card, check the box or the
manufacturer's site, and make that it matches these specs.

How much will such a card cost? It depends on how much graphics oomph
you want. You can get a graphics card that meets these specs for as
low as about $60. If you want better performance, of course, you can
pay more, in the $100 to $150 range. But with graphics cards, the sky
is the limit, and you can spend just about as much as you want until
your pocketbook screams. As a practical matter, though, only gamers
need the more expensive graphics cards; you don't need them merely to
run Vista.

If you don't have a DVD drive, you'll need one, because Vista installs
only via DVD. These days DVD drives are cheap; you can get a
reasonable one for as low as about $30 to $40.

How about your hard disk? You should have a hard drive with a least a
40GB capacity, with 15GB of free disk space. But you'll certainly want
a much bigger drive than that, to leave plenty of room for files and
media. So you might need to add a new hard drive. Hard drives are
cheap these days; for as low as $70 or $80, you can get one with a
250GB capacity.

How much will all of this cost you? Depending on what you need to
install, you can get by with as little as spending only about $60 for
a new graphics card, or up to $400 or more if you need to upgrade your
RAM, graphics card, and hard disk, and also have to buy a DVD drive.
What's Your Time Worth?

You'll be spending more than just money if you upgrade to Windows
Vista, of course--you may spend plenty of time as well. If you need to
upgrade your hardware, count in the time it takes to do the upgrade.
If you only need to upgrade your RAM, and all goes well during
installation, you should need to spend only about 15 minutes. On the
other hand, graphics card upgrades can sometimes be tricky, as can
hard disk and DVD installations. If things go badly, you can spend
hours troubleshooting and listening to bad music while you're on hold
on tech support lines.

Finally, consider the time you'll spend upgrading to Windows Vista
itself. Microsoft has done an excellent job with the Windows Vista
installation process, and it's far easier and faster than previous
Windows installs. So if you're going to merely upgrade over your
existing version of Windows XP, it may take as little as 40 minutes
with very little intervention on your part.

You may, though, opt instead for a clean install, which means that
you'll wipe your hard disk clean, and then install Windows Vista. If
you do that, you'll have to copy your data somewhere, and then after
Vista installs, copy it back to your PC. And you'll also have to
reinstall all your applications. This can take multiple hours if your
PC has an extensive set of software.
The Bottom Line

So what's the bottom line for hidden upgrade costs? If you've got a
relatively new system and opt to upgrade Vista over XP instead of
doing a clean install, you may get away with not having to upgrade any
hardware, or just need to add some RAM or a new graphics card. That
won't put much bite on your pocketbook, and you won't lose your
weekends, either.

On the other hand, if you need to do heavy-duty installation work and
opt for a clean install, make sure you've got plenty of time--and cash
as well.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/128930-1/article.html?tk=nl_dnxnws
 
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Dale White

"and if you can't run Aero, you shouldn't bother upgrading to Windows
Vista"

I dunno, that's to me is a pretty dumb statement. Of course, I run vista
with Aero turned off so maybe that's why it strikes me as dumb.
I guess this article is aimed at basic users, because he forgets that Vista
brings in DirectX10 support and in a few months we'll have a few DX10 games
to play with. Though hardly a reason for upgrading, but Halo 2 is currently
only slated to work under Vista.

There is the new and improve security features, though I find them mostly
annoying, that would be much more the reason to upgrade to Vista than the
Aero.

Outside of that, one could change out Vista and put windows 95 in, as Vista
just as that same feeling about being a great OS for selling hardware. I
remember one news reporter doing a review of Windows 95 and he was having
problems, and he said, I've got a 486DX100 with 16MB of ram, more than
enough for windows 95

Anyways, I knew there was a reason why I stopped reading PC world
 
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\LG\

Ablang said:
Hidden Costs of a Windows Vista Upgrade
If you're putting Vista on a PC yourself, you need to read this.
Preston Gralla, PC World
Monday, February 12, 2007 01:00 AM PST
If you're upgrading to Windows Vista, the first cash outlay you likely
face is buying more RAM for your PC. Microsoft says that you can run
Windows Vista with 512 megabytes of RAM, but don't believe it. It's
simply not worth running Windows Vista on a machine with less than 1
gigabyte of RAM. In fact, you'd be a lot happier with 2GB.

That's nonsense. I'm running Vista Ultimate on an older T-Bird 1.1 with 640m
of ram and it is running beautifully.
Even if you have enough RAM, your existing graphics card may not be up
to snuff, because Vista is graphics-hungry. If you want to run its
Aero environment, you'll need a good graphics card.

More nonsense. On this box I'm running an old Geforce 5200 FX 128 and it's
more than adequate to run Aero. It costs about $30 now.
If you don't have a DVD drive, you'll need one, because Vista installs
only via DVD. These days DVD drives are cheap; you can get a
reasonable one for as low as about $30 to $40.

Uh....well.....this machine doesn't have a DVD drive and yet I managed to
install Vista Ultimate on it. :)
How about your hard disk? You should have a hard drive with a least a
40GB capacity, with 15GB of free disk space. But you'll certainly want
a much bigger drive than that, to leave plenty of room for files and
media. So you might need to add a new hard drive. Hard drives are
cheap these days; for as low as $70 or $80, you can get one with a
250GB capacity.

More nonsense. This box has 2 30g drives. Vista is taking up about 10g on 1
drive and I'm using the other for backup and files.
How much will all of this cost you? Depending on what you need to
install, you can get by with as little as spending only about $60 for
a new graphics card, or up to $400 or more if you need to upgrade your
RAM, graphics card, and hard disk, and also have to buy a DVD drive.
What's Your Time Worth?

Pure nonsense.
 
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BigJim

well I had to put nothing in my system, it has one gig of ram and a p4 3.2
HT processor and a nvidia 6600gt. It runs fine, areo glass works and it is
reasonably fast. It is as quick as xp was.
Installed Vista U.
 
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Robert Robinson

I agree that the hardware costs can be considerable.
Today's moderately high performance video adapters typically require a
PCI Express 16 lane slot plus an adjacent slot that can be used as a
blank due to the width requirements of the adapters. Also, if you wish
to play copyrighted movies you will need an HDMI enabled video adapter.
You will end up replacing your existing motherboard or purchasing a new
computer if your present system cannot support the video adapter
requirements.
Second, you will probably want at least 2 GB of system RAM and a fast
CPU, preferably one capable of supporting 64 bit operations.

There can also be major software costs. For example, Intuit states that
there will be no upgrade that makes QuickBooks 2006 compatible with
Vista. You must buy QuickBooks 2007. The cost of a multi-user version is
$900 plus. Regardless of whether you blame this incompatibility
problem on Intuit or Microsoft, the consumer cost can be considerable. A
similar software "upgrade" issue exists with a number of other widely
used application programs.
 
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Lang Murphy

This is a good article for someone who has never upgraded a Windows OS
before. Win98->W2K? Same thing. Win2K->WinXP? Same thing. Win??->Vista? Same
thing. Not news to me.

I have to agree with LG's response below (or above...). A lot of FUD here.
Honestly, I don't have a problem with that, though, because there are far
too many folks posting in here who took the plunge without any due
diligence. They need to know that upgrading a Windows OS is not something to
take lightly. For good or ill. Other platforms suffer the same issues, so
spare me, those that might posit it, the Linux/Mac spew.

Lang
 
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BSchnur

I think the class of Vista buyers most likely to be frustrated and
disappointed are those looking to simply upgrade from existing hardware
running Windows XP -- especially if that hardware is more than 18
months old (and even some more recent buyers).

I'm not saying that ALL folks in that class will be frustrated and
disappointed, just that this group is most likely to encounter
problems.

Folks purchasing new hardware need to figure on spending more for
decent experience with Vista. That is, folks running out to get that
$500 system with Vista Basic -- well, it will work -- and it probably
will seem snappier than say a 3 year old modestly configured home
system. But, spending an extra $200 to $300 for a system with Home
Premium and the hardware to make it work reasonably well makes a lot of
sense. We're talking 1G memory for starters (2G is nice), a decent
PCI-X16 video card (not just the embedded on motherboard versions --
those these can be ok for basic work), and then they need to make sure
that if they have older printers, that they are supported. Not a big
deal for older PCL4, or PCL 5 laser printers, but it can be an issue
with older ink jets (which folks often have at home).

The general caution here is that many home users don't know what they
are getting into when getting a new computer, and they are often sadly
overmatched with the upgrade in place options.
 

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