Help With Guest Logon

J

JD

For the first time I decided to activate the Guest User logon. Here's what's
happening. Word will not install at all. I get repeated error messages
regarding the Office Source Engine. I've spent many hours trying different
fixes, including reinstalling Word.
However, though Works appears to install under Guest User, when I try to
perform any routine functions (save, delete, etc.) I get messages that
"Works cannot complete the task," and "Works cannot install."
The only application that seems to work under the Guest User logon is
Encarta.
The problem is apparently not with Word or Works, both of which function
perfectly under the Owner logon.
What can I do to enable a guest user to use Word and Works?
 
R

Rich Barry

Have you tried looking in Local Computer Config. Go to Start>Run type:
gpedit.msc
 
H

Hot-text

Why you need to activate the Guest User logon for its have no Admit Rights
it just for Guest to Play Games read E-Mails..
you are Crying about giving up Admit Rights
You Need to Make a New USER >> with a Password so you can give up same
Right to but not all
So that a USER can do WORD AND WORK
and all the error will go away
I Have 3 Users
1 for Wife
1 for me with all Admit Rights
1 for Son with no Rights at all LOOL
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Hot-text said:
Why you need to activate the Guest User logon for its have no
Admit Rights it just for Guest to Play Games read E-Mails..
you are Crying about giving up Admit Rights
You Need to Make a New USER >> with a Password so you can give up
same Right to but not all
So that a USER can do WORD AND WORK
and all the error will go away
I Have 3 Users
1 for Wife
1 for me with all Admit Rights
1 for Son with no Rights at all LOOL
Click to expand...

If english is not your primary language - there are newsgroups better suited
to assist you.
 
J

JD

I'm sure you meant to be helpful, but if I "look in" Local Computer Config,
what will I expect to see--and what should I do once there?
 
J

JD

I don't understand what you're telling me. Are you trying to help or just
being nasty?
All the Help files and Windows xp books clearly say that a Guest user should
be able to use all applications installed by Windows.
Why all are accessible except Word and Works is what puzzles me.
I'm wondering if it might have something to do with the fact that I checked
the box to "make my folders secure." Both these apps create and save
documents, some of which are, of course, in "secure" folders.
I can't think of any other possibilities.
 
J

JD

I'm running Windows XP Home. I suspect that the "group edit" function is not
available in this version of Windows.
Here's my frustration: All the books and Windows Help resources tell me that
Guest users should be able to use all programs installed by Windows.
If I were told authoritatively that Word and Works are "exceptions" and that
I should not expect them to work, I'd be OK with that. Windows does have a
serviceable word processor (Wordpad) that a guest could use.
When I run Works in the Guest user account, it loads and creates documents,
but when I try to save, I get error messages such as "Works cannot complete
this task," "Works cannot install," and "Try reloading Windows or Check your
hard drive."
Word will not install, the message here being that it cannot access the
Office Source Engine. I know the OSE is where it's supposed to be. I've
uninstalled and reinstalled Word and even run Word "repair." It runs
smoothly, indicating that, at least from the Owner logon, it can access the
OSE.
So the "problem" is not with Word but with Windows.
Windows XP Inside Out by Ed Bott instructs me to check the box "Make my
folders private," without suggesting that doing so might make Word unuseable
to the Guest user. Is it possible that had I not checked that box, these
applications would run successfully? I am at a loss.
 
H

Hot-text

YES



JD said:
I don't understand what you're telling me. Are you trying to help or just
being nasty?
All the Help files and Windows xp books clearly say that a Guest user
should be able to use all applications installed by Windows.
Why all are accessible except Word and Works is what puzzles me.
I'm wondering if it might have something to do with the fact that I
checked the box to "make my folders secure." Both these apps create and
save documents, some of which are, of course, in "secure" folders.
I can't think of any other possibilities.
Click to expand...
 
T

Tim Meddick

JD,

The "Guest" user has problems with storing and accessing Application Data.

This is due to the fact that the "permissions" that the Guest account has are LOWER
than a normal Limited Account.

The best way to allow an unknown "Guest" user to access your PC not requiring a
password is to create a new user account called "User" with limited access, and not
set a password for it.

This can then function as a "Guest" account but will have the right level of
permissions to correctly save and access settings created by both Windows and
programs & games.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
H

Hot-text

YES


JD said:
I'm running Windows XP Home. I suspect that the "group edit" function is
not available in this version of Windows.
Here's my frustration: All the books and Windows Help resources tell me
that Guest users should be able to use all programs installed by Windows.
If I were told authoritatively that Word and Works are "exceptions" and
that I should not expect them to work, I'd be OK with that. Windows does
have a serviceable word processor (Wordpad) that a guest could use.
When I run Works in the Guest user account, it loads and creates
documents, but when I try to save, I get error messages such as "Works
cannot complete this task," "Works cannot install," and "Try reloading
Windows or Check your hard drive."
Word will not install, the message here being that it cannot access the
Office Source Engine. I know the OSE is where it's supposed to be. I've
uninstalled and reinstalled Word and even run Word "repair." It runs
smoothly, indicating that, at least from the Owner logon, it can access
the OSE.
So the "problem" is not with Word but with Windows.
Windows XP Inside Out by Ed Bott instructs me to check the box "Make my
folders private," without suggesting that doing so might make Word
unuseable to the Guest user. Is it possible that had I not checked that
box, these applications would run successfully? I am at a loss.
Click to expand...
 
J

JD

Does your "Yes" mean that I should not expect the Guest User to be able to
access Word and Works?
 
J

JD

Tim,
I thank you for your thoughtful reply. At last an "answer" that I can
understand!
I'm going to take your advice.
Is there a way that I can "undo" the Guest User configurations that I've
already done? That is, return it to the "default" state it was in before I
set it up--make it as if I had never turned it on?
 
T

Tim Meddick

JD,

Yes, de-activate (turn off) the Guest user account in the "User Accounts" control
panel.

After rebooting, you should then be able to delete the entire "Guest" folder as in :

"C:\Documents and Settings\Guest".

This will effectively delete all the settings associated with the Guest account
stored in the file : ..\Guest\ntuser.dat along with Application Data and the Guest's
Documents folder.

On re-activating (turning on) the Guest account, the whole "Guest" profile folder
will be re-created using default settings...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
J

JD

You're a gentleman and a scholar!
Tim Meddick said:
JD,

Yes, de-activate (turn off) the Guest user account in the "User Accounts"
control panel.

After rebooting, you should then be able to delete the entire "Guest"
folder as in :

"C:\Documents and Settings\Guest".

This will effectively delete all the settings associated with the Guest
account stored in the file : ..\Guest\ntuser.dat along with Application
Data and the Guest's Documents folder.

On re-activating (turning on) the Guest account, the whole "Guest" profile
folder will be re-created using default settings...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
Click to expand...
 
H

Hot-text

YES JD for Tim is right


Tim Meddick said:
JD,

The "Guest" user has problems with storing and accessing Application Data.

This is due to the fact that the "permissions" that the Guest account has
are LOWER than a normal Limited Account.

The best way to allow an unknown "Guest" user to access your PC not
requiring a password is to create a new user account called "User" with
limited access, and not set a password for it.

This can then function as a "Guest" account but will have the right level
of permissions to correctly save and access settings created by both
Windows and programs & games.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
Click to expand...
 
R

Rich Barry

To sum this up, JD did not have a version of WinXP with gpedit.msc
available and wouldnt know what to do with it if he had it. Hot-Text
tries to help him and Shenan tells him to get lost his English is
terrible. JD gets upset and Tim comes to his rescue. Hot-Text keeps
calling Tim, Tom and he's the Man. JD is satisfied finally with Tim's
explanation and all is well with the world. Did I get that right?
 

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