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paul3200

my hard drive has just 'died' and will need to buy a new one
therefore i will need to reinstall winXP
will i need to buy a new windows XP licence
unfortenetly i never had a key because it is a acer pc and was ready to
install
 
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checker

On a brand name computer the licence serial should be on a sticker on the
back of the case.. under the computer if it's a portable. And you don't
need a new licence for the same computer... And about the hard drive, they
don't just die suddenly, they give out symptoms like a message at startup
that says "No OS found", booting problems, etc. and most of the time it just
takes a reseting of the jumpers on the HD and/or a little persistance, a
little dusting of the hardware & PCI slots, reinstalling or removing the
Video Card, or even a new power supply to get it booting again and long
enough to rescue valuable information and specially the licence serial which
may be a different serial from the one on the sticker... the serial can be
found with Keyfinder...
 
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Shenan Stanley

paul3200 said:
my hard drive has just 'died' and will need to buy a new one
therefore i will need to reinstall winXP
will i need to buy a new windows XP licence
unfortenetly i never had a key because it is a acer pc and was
ready to install

Look on the side, bottom, back of the computer casing. Is there a sticker
there (multi-color) with the proof of license/product key for your operating
system?

Did you get actual installation media and/or restoration/recovery media?

Could be you won't necessarily need the key depending on what shipped with
your Acer system.
 
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Shenan Stanley

<snipped>
On a brand name computer the licence serial should be on a sticker
on the back of the case.. under the computer if it's a portable. And you
don't need a new licence for the same computer... And
about the hard drive, they don't just die suddenly, they give out
symptoms like a message at startup that says "No OS found", booting
problems, etc. and most of the time it just takes a reseting of the
jumpers on the HD and/or a little persistance, a little dusting of
the hardware & PCI slots, reinstalling or removing the Video Card,
or even a new power supply to get it booting again and long enough
to rescue valuable information and specially the licence serial
which may be a different serial from the one on the sticker... the
serial can be found with Keyfinder...

"about the hard drive, they don't just die suddenly"
<-- in reference to that - that is not necessarily true. In fact - I have
had more drives do the 'sudden death' trick in my years of servicing
computers than I have had the 'warning, about to die' trick performed for
the drives. Power surge, just a bad HDD circuit board, a jarring at the
wrong time (laptops mostly, but I have had people knock desktop computers
off desks too. hah)

Not saying your advice about trying to backup the data is not a good thing
to try - just saying that your blanket statement, "they don't just die
suddenly" *is* incorrect. Maybe putting in the word 'usually' or puttng in
the phrase 'not all the time do they' instead of 'they don't'...

Truthfully though - this is when the user needs to rethink whatever their
previous backup scheme was *if* they lost any data. If they were doing
their backups right, they probably lost nothing to almost nothing. If they
were like a lot of people and doing no backups - they should consider this a
lesson, spend $80-$200 and invest in some external hard drive so they have a
copy of their stuff in two places at once.

I've been recommending the Seagate Replica to people lately. For a while,
Seagate had their multiple computer 500GB version for $109 U.S. I think
Amazon.com bought a few up and are selling them at $119.99 (as is
TigerDirect) right now. I wouldn't even personally consider getting the
single PC version for $30-$40 less (half the space, single computer use
only.)

Well worth it - considering in this situation, the hard drive could have
been replaced and restored to the last full backup with just a boot tricks
and a few clicks.
 
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20100218

paul3200 said:
my hard drive has just 'died' and will need to buy a new one
therefore i will need to reinstall winXP
will i need to buy a new windows XP licence
unfortenetly i never had a key because it is a acer pc and was ready to
install
No you don't need to buy a new license. However, I suggest make a
backup of the HD or clone it so that you can retrieve everything from it
when you get your new HD. It is possible to get everything from the
dead HD by booting the system using Norton Ghost 15 Recovery CD or
Acronis Recovery CD. You save yourself lot of time and hassle of
activating and reactivating including installing all your application
packages.

Have you got an external HD that you can attach it on your USB port?
You will need it to save your HD image.

hth
 
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Yousuf Khan

paul3200 said:
my hard drive has just 'died' and will need to buy a new one
therefore i will need to reinstall winXP
will i need to buy a new windows XP licence
unfortenetly i never had a key because it is a acer pc and was ready to
install

No, as long as you have the original XP CD that came with the system, it
doesn't matter what hard disk in there, you can install Windows onto it.
The OEM versions of Windows comes pre-activated to look for a certain
signature on the machine's BIOS. If the signature is there, then you
won't need to activate it.

If you don't have the original XP CD, then maybe go on Acer's website
and see if you can't order a new CD to be shipped to you? It probably
won't cost much more than shipping and handling (of course shipping and
handling might cost $30!). :)

Yousuf Khan
 
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Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

Hard drives DIE all the time for no reason.
if you need data off that drive still
See if Putting it in the freezer for 2hrs and then hooking it up works
Sometimes you can get a HD to boot up in time to grab data off of it.
(Sometimes)

Russ

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Daave

Shenan said:
Look on the side, bottom, back of the computer casing. Is there a
sticker there (multi-color) with the proof of license/product key for
your operating system?

Did you get actual installation media and/or restoration/recovery
media?

That is the key question, yes! OP did not mention the model/model
number. We don't (yet) know the method Acer provided to restore this PC
to its original condition. If there is a hidden recovery partition on
the dead hard drive, this won't be a good thing for the OP, of course!
And if he had been instructed to create his own recovery media (I
believe that it usually the case with Acers, but OP needs to confirm)
and neglected to do so, again, out of luck for the immediate future...

If OP is lucky, he has an appropriate installation or "recovery" CD *or*
access to a generic OEM XP installation CD matching the type of XP he is
licensed to run (which can be found on the COA sticker along with the
Product Key).
 

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