Hazards of hard disk internals in the house

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Warra

I took apart an old 120MB disk drive to get the magnet.

I rather like the platters and want to keep them in my house. Maybe
to use as coffee mug mats or something like that.

But I don't want to rest my sandwiches on a platter while having a
coffee and then find that the platters have some toxic coating or can
be a hazard!

Can anyone tell me.

Also, I guess the magnet is made of a special alloy using rare
metals. Could it too be toxic or hazardous?
 
J

johns

All metal dust is hazardous .. every single bit of it.
All of it is electrically and chemically ( same thing )
active.

johns
 
R

Rod Speed

Warra said:
I took apart an old 120MB disk drive to get the magnet.
I rather like the platters and want to keep them in my house.
Maybe to use as coffee mug mats or something like that.

I've reported you to the RSPCPPHDBTF, you'll be soorree...
But I don't want to rest my sandwiches on a platter
while having a coffee and then find that the platters
have some toxic coating or can be a hazard!

Why not ?
Can anyone tell me.

Most are fine, not all tho.
Also, I guess the magnet is made of a special alloy
using rare metals. Could it too be toxic or hazardous?

Nope, its fine.
 
K

kony

I took apart an old 120MB disk drive to get the magnet.

I rather like the platters and want to keep them in my house. Maybe
to use as coffee mug mats or something like that.

Being that they're no-absorbant, thin metal (which conducts
reasonably well), and have a hole in the middle, it would
seem they are ill-suited towards being coffee mug mats.
Perhaps wind chimes or ???

But I don't want to rest my sandwiches on a platter while having a
coffee and then find that the platters have some toxic coating or can
be a hazard!


Have you actually taken the platters out and looked at them?
Not exactly suitable for a sandwich/snack tray.

Since they are not meant for contact with food, the easy
answer is just don't do it. They're "probably" safe if you
washed them off good but I'd not bet on it.

Can anyone tell me.

Also, I guess the magnet is made of a special alloy using rare
metals. Could it too be toxic or hazardous?

They are almost always nickel-plated neodymium, their
greatest hazzard is violently attaching to something and
scratching it, or a strong magnetic field wiping out a
floppy disc, possibly damaging a watch mechanism... I've
never tried to trash a watch with one though. Their
toxicity should be low but if these things are really a
concern to you, perhaps keeping food on real plates wouldn't
be such a bad idea.
 
S

SteveH

Warra said:
I took apart an old 120MB disk drive to get the magnet.

I rather like the platters and want to keep them in my house. Maybe
to use as coffee mug mats or something like that.
I used to like the Platters as well, shame they don't make music any more.

SteveH
 
O

Odie

Warra said:
Also, I guess the magnet is made of a special alloy using rare
metals. Could it too be toxic or hazardous?

No. But just be cautious about using foods with a high iron content...


Odie
 
R

ricodjour

Warra said:
I took apart an old 120MB disk drive to get the magnet.

I rather like the platters and want to keep them in my house. Maybe
to use as coffee mug mats or something like that.

But I don't want to rest my sandwiches on a platter while having a
coffee and then find that the platters have some toxic coating or can
be a hazard!

Can anyone tell me.

It's probably safe as it's simply a magnetic coating on the disk, but
that shiny surface won't stay shiny for long. Those fingerprints of
yours will be there forever making it look dirty. You could spray the
disk with a clear coating, but is it really worth the effort?
Also, I guess the magnet is made of a special alloy using rare
metals. Could it too be toxic or hazardous?

The hard drive magnets are great fun. I use them for all sorts of
applications. Here's a little shamelessly ripped info:

However, caution must be taken when using neodymium magnets. Even a
small neodymium magnet is powerful enough to destroy the contents of a
floppy disc to such an extent that the information is unrecoverable, a
guarantee not present with techniques such as formatting the disk.
NdFeB magnets are often strong enough to not only magnetize color CRT
shadow masks, but also physically deform the mask itself. Such damage
is typically irreparable by degaussing.

Neodymium magnets should always be handled carefully. Some of the
neodymium magnets that are slightly larger than the size of a penny are
powerful enough to lift over 10 kilograms [1]. They are hazardous,
being able to pinch skin or fingers when suddenly attracted to a
magnetic object. Because they are made with special powders and
coatings, the magnets are very fragile and break at temperatures over
150 °C, or if allowed to smash together. When they break, the magnets
may break so suddenly that flying pieces may cause eye injury.
Neodymium magnets should also be stored away from electrical
appliances, magnetic (bank) cards and computer monitors, as damage may
be irreparable.

Neodymium metal dust is a combustion and explosion hazard.

Neodymium compounds, like all rare earth metals, are of low to moderate
toxicity; however its toxicity has not been thoroughly investigated.
Neodymium dust and salts are very irritating to the eyes and mucous
membranes, and moderately irritating to skin. Breathing the dust can
cause lung embolisms, and accumulated exposure damages the liver.
Neodymium also acts as an anticoagulant, especially when given
intravenously. {So if you were thinking of shooting it up, don't.}

R
 
J

John Weiss

Warra said:
I took apart an old 120MB disk drive to get the magnet.

I rather like the platters and want to keep them in my house. Maybe
to use as coffee mug mats or something like that.

But I don't want to rest my sandwiches on a platter while having a
coffee and then find that the platters have some toxic coating or can
be a hazard!

Can anyone tell me.

The platters are very thin & brittle glass. When they shatter the shards
are deadly sharp!
 
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Eric Gisin

Ceramic. Like ovenproof dishware.
I was under the impression most drives used them now.
 
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Sjouke Burry

Eric said:
Ceramic. Like ovenproof dishware.
I was under the impression most drives used them now.
Maybe, but not in the 120MB era.
Those were just aluminium disks.
You bend them,and you see the chromium?? layer
break up(much harder then the disk itself).
I have not yet come up to the point of
disassembling gigabyte disks yet(they have to
fail first -)-)-)-) ).
 
A

Arno Wagner

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Sjouke Burry said:
Maybe, but not in the 120MB era.
Those were just aluminium disks.
You bend them,and you see the chromium?? layer
break up(much harder then the disk itself).
I have not yet come up to the point of
disassembling gigabyte disks yet(they have to
fail first -)-)-)-) ).

I dissassembled some "DeatStars". Definitely metal platters.
My guess that you need to look in the >200GB area for the
ceramic platters.

Arno
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

Glass substrate, actually.
U sure about that?!

Think Deathstar.

Think any current IBM/Hitachi, probably.
Most aren't.

Define 'most'. If most then it must be easy to name one, right?

So what did they do to solve the problems with aluminum
substrate platters that the glass substrate was to solve ?
 
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kony

Define 'most'. If most then it must be easy to name one, right?

I meant most older drives, I've opened quite a few from past
years, typically up to 60GB size and they weren't glass
unless there's a new glass formulation that allows it to
bend. That doesn't necessarily mean most new drives are, it
wouldn't be surprising if many have switched to glass or
ceramic in more modern models.

So what did they do to solve the problems with aluminum
substrate platters that the glass substrate was to solve ?


No idea, was it actually solving a problem or same thing
different day, they they'd merely hoped to increase density
more, and sought lower expansion and more rigid platters?
Supposedly they're thinner too but I don't know that this is
necessary unless there are several platters in the drive.
 

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