hard drive bad?? FAT32 on Xp

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Guest

Friend's Gateway 3yr old computer acting up - freezing, restarting by itself,
etc. I did a lot of system maintenance - they never did - and also NAV
updated and AdAware installed, updated & scanned. After all that, we
re-installed WinXp (a repair install? It seemed to go very fast, but had to
do it 3 times 'cuz computer kept restarting on its own.
On restarts, it runs error checking. Bunch of times, had errors that
supposedly were fixed. "First allocation unit is invalid - truncated", some
others - "cross-linked files" that were copied to correct places. Also, the
report (when it showed up) said that there were 32KB in bad sectors.
Today, also checked the Gateway Utility and ran hard drive test - first 3
portions passed, then the surface scan failed. CPU test and memory test
passed.
Will try to get to manufacturer's disk utility to test hard drive, but I'm
wondering if there is any other possibility here. It really seems to be
pointing to the hard drive. On some restarts, a window would come up that
Windows has recovered from a serious error. Also the Analysis report said
that there was an "unrecoverable hardware error". I saw this a few times.
Another question: This WinXp computer was sent with FAT 32 file system.
Ithought Xp was always NTFS. I don't htink the file system is causing the
problem, because it was sent from factory this way, and was OK for 3+ yrs,
but it makes me wonder when I see first allocation unit errors.
On other post, some replies asked to check for dust, etc. I had already
blown out the computer with canned air, but I did check both the fans. They
are running fine; never appeared to slow down.
This lady says that the comp appears to restart when she's been on about an
hour+. She feels it seems to be when she's on Internet (DSL) and goes to
"weather.com". I don't know if that's a coincidence or just that she goes to
other sites and then gets to weather site after an hour. Any ideas?? There's
no obvious thing to point to overheating - I'm leaning toward bad drive.
Suggestions gratefully accepted - thanks.
 
B

Bob Harris

It does sound like a hard drive problem, lathough it could be some file
system (software) problem that CHKDSK can not fix.

As for FAT32, XP works fine on that. I have been using FAT32 as my boot
partition for years, since it allows me to use DOS and LINUX repair/recovery
tools. However, today, if I were to build a new PC, I would probably go
with NTFS, since there are DOS drivers for NTFS and some LINUX distributions
also support it. More importantly, there are backup programs that happily
write to/from NTFS (e.g., Acronis TrueImage).

I suggest that you get all personal files off of the PC, delete all
partitions, create new partitions, then re-install XP. You can use the XP
recovery console, run form the XP CDROM to do this partition work. Here are
some links to the recovery console:

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_rec.htm



http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxprcons.htm



http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy33.htm


Caution: If the XP CDROM is an update version, you will need to have a 98,
98SE, ME, or 2000 CD handy, since it will demand to check for proof of a
qualifying operating system for the update version. You do not need to
install the older operating system.

If after all this the problems continue, then get a new hard drive.

Caution: Avoid anything bigger than 120 Gig, unless you want to learn about
48-bit LBA, and have SP-1 available (or the XP CD contains SP-1).
 
G

Guest

My opinion is HD going bad!

Bob Harris said:
It does sound like a hard drive problem, lathough it could be some file
system (software) problem that CHKDSK can not fix.

As for FAT32, XP works fine on that. I have been using FAT32 as my boot
partition for years, since it allows me to use DOS and LINUX repair/recovery
tools. However, today, if I were to build a new PC, I would probably go
with NTFS, since there are DOS drivers for NTFS and some LINUX distributions
also support it. More importantly, there are backup programs that happily
write to/from NTFS (e.g., Acronis TrueImage).

I suggest that you get all personal files off of the PC, delete all
partitions, create new partitions, then re-install XP. You can use the XP
recovery console, run form the XP CDROM to do this partition work. Here are
some links to the recovery console:

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_rec.htm



http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxprcons.htm



http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy33.htm


Caution: If the XP CDROM is an update version, you will need to have a 98,
98SE, ME, or 2000 CD handy, since it will demand to check for proof of a
qualifying operating system for the update version. You do not need to
install the older operating system.

If after all this the problems continue, then get a new hard drive.

Caution: Avoid anything bigger than 120 Gig, unless you want to learn about
48-bit LBA, and have SP-1 available (or the XP CD contains SP-1).
 

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