hard disc crash

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Raul Sousa

My hard drive crashed. Fortunately I have my data in a different partition.
I can still start windows in safe mode.
I would like your opinion on what should I do to be able to restore windows
to its actual condition. Is a system restore enough? Consider I just want to
restore windows. I do not need to backup any other data.
 
D

Dan H.

Hi,
What do you mean by Hard disk drive crashed? Unless i have a different
definition than other definitions floating out there a crashed hard drive
would be a dead hard drive and if this was the case Windows would not start
at all, not even in safe mode.
Safe mode only start, usually indicates a driver issue. Have you installed
anything recently (hardware, software), any recenct software updates?
 
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Raul Sousa

No. I have installed nothing recently.
The disc is not dead yet. Sometimes I can restart windows in safe mode, but
not always. I usually keeps rebooting when windows starts.
First thing I thought it would be a windows problem. Then I tried to
reinstall windows over the old installation, so I would not lose anything. I
didn´t work because windows installer told that the drive was damage and
needed to be formatted.
I don’t want to do this now. E need to save windows information first, in
order to be able to restore it later.
Now my question is: Which data do I need to save in order to be able to
restore windows, after a new installation?
 
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VanguardLH

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My hard drive crashed. Fortunately I have my data in a different
partition.
I can still start windows in safe mode.
I would like your opinion on what should I do to be able to restore
windows
to its actual condition. Is a system restore enough? Consider I just
want to
restore windows. I do not need to backup any other data.


If you can start Windows in its safe mode, your hard disk did NOT
crash.

"restore windows to its actual condition"
You already have that. It's actual condition (now) is that you cannot
start Windows in its normal mode. I would think that you would want
to restore Windows to a usable condition, a prior condition, a
baseline condition, or something usable.

Depends on what "crash" means. What are the symptoms that you are
hiding under the vague description of "crash"? Read:

http://66.39.69.143/goodpost.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html

Do you have the installation CD for Windows? It is really an install
CD versus a recovery or restore CD that is often supplied with
pre-installed operating systems on pre-built computers?
 
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VanguardLH

in message
No. I have installed nothing recently.

Perhaps you don't remember. Or you let Windows Update install a
driver rather than going to the hardware manufacturer's web site to
get THEIR driver rather than what Microsoft proffers for that
manufacturer through Windows Update (which is not wholly accurate in
detecting the hardware to determine if the driver is appropriate).
The disc is not dead yet. Sometimes I can restart windows in safe
mode, but
not always. I usually keeps rebooting when windows starts.

Could be a driver that is not for that version of Windows, or a flaky
driver (i.e., poor code), or the driver is not for your specific
hardware.

Do you have Windows configured to automatically login with no prompt
for your login credentials (username and password)? If so, perhaps
your user profile is corrupted. Windows tries to login under your
profile, it is corrupt, and Windows aborts.

Do you get a blue screen on the forced reboot? If so, what does it
say?
First thing I thought it would be a windows problem. Then I tried to
reinstall windows over the old installation, so I would not lose
anything. I
didn´t work because windows installer told that the drive was
damage and
needed to be formatted.

Then the file system has been corrupted. This could be due to the
drive going bad in that some sectors are no longer readable. The file
system is just more bytes on the sectors so it could be the file table
itself has been corrupted. Do you have a bootable DOS floppy with
'chkdsk' on it? If so, try running 'chkdsk /r' to check the file
system and also scan the sectors for readability. However, Windows
will try up to 5 times to reread a sector that fails (i.e., it fails
after the 5th attempt) and drives may mask up to 3 bad reads, so the
failure might not occur until after the 15th actual read attempt,
maybe more. The /r option to chkdsk is very basic and does nothing
much more than verify a sector is readable. SpinRite (not free)
performs a more in-depth analysis of the hard disk and can recover
what chkdsk would never be able to recover.

If you don't have a bootable DOS floppy with 'chkdsk', go to
www.bootdisk.com to get an .exe that will lay down an image onto a
floppy in the A: drive.
 
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smlunatick

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If you can start Windows in its safe mode, your hard disk did NOT
crash.

"restore windows to its actual condition"
You already have that.  It's actual condition (now) is that you cannot
start Windows in its normal mode.  I would think that you would want
to restore Windows to a usable condition, a prior condition, a
baseline condition, or something usable.

Depends on what "crash" means.  What are the symptoms that you are
hiding under the vague description of "crash"?  Read:

http://66.39.69.143/goodpost.htmhtt...5375http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html

Do you have the installation CD for Windows?  It is really an install
CD versus a recovery or restore CD that is often supplied with
pre-installed operating systems on pre-built computers?

I have seen where the drive will start up sometimes of a crash. The
important thing to do is to replace the drive soon. If you conrinue
to use the "defective" drive, you can risk damaging the DATA.
Replacing the drive will also mean doing a full re-install of Windows
and all applications. One important thing to do is to temporary
disconnect the DATA drive from the system. By doing this, you will
help to make sure that the new XP install will be done to drive C:.
Ocne the XP is re-installed, you can re-connect ythe second drive.
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "Raul Sousa" <[email protected]>

| My hard drive crashed. Fortunately I have my data in a different partition.
| I can still start windows in safe mode.
| I would like your opinion on what should I do to be able to restore windows
| to its actual condition. Is a system restore enough? Consider I just want to
| restore windows. I do not need to backup any other data.

I suggest using a manufacturers diagnostic. Often the manufacturers diagnostic can mark a
bad spot on the hard disk and then use an unused block in its place.

Quantum/Maxtor - PowerMax
http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/downloads/powermax.htm

Western Digital - Data LifeGuard Tools (DLGDiag)
http://support.wdc.com/download/

Hitachi/IBM - Drive Fitness Test (DFT)
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm

Seagate - SeaTools
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/

Fujitsu - Diagnostic Tool
http://www.fcpa.com/download/hard-drives/

Samsung - Disk manager
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/shdiag.htm
 

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