Halflife 2 and Halflife 2 Episode One, insert disc problem before I even installed!

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Patrick

Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde DVDs from
the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a disc when
I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store, same
problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being a
problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have them for
free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good guy, buy the games
and it doesn't work.
 
D

Dale M. White

Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam download of
the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that problem with Vista64
as well, I think it was when I was trying to install Supreme Commander, When
I would click on the DVD it would want to try and write to it (which it
couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run and type
CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit enter. Assuming
your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like from the command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see this
problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch
 
P

Patrick

Hi,

thanks for the effort but opening a command prompt and doing f: reults in a
popup stating there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive
F:.

I think it has to do with some form of copy protection.

Patrick

Dale M. White said:
Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam download
of the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that problem with
Vista64 as well, I think it was when I was trying to install Supreme
Commander, When I would click on the DVD it would want to try and write to
it (which it couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run and
type CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit enter.
Assuming your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like from the
command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see this
problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch


Patrick said:
Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde DVDs
from the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a disc
when I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store, same
problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being a
problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have them
for free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good guy, buy the
games and it doesn't work.
 
D

Dale M. White

Wow that is a odd one. I guess if you're not able to take the game back then
you might be stuck. It's probably using SecureRom or Starforce, both give
vista fits (and even XP to a degree). If you can refund the game, probably
you other option is to get HL2 and EP1 via the steam method.

Oddly enough Valve supports Vista, but I guess if they can't get the Vista
to reconize the DVD, then they will have to change their copy protection
means.


Patrick said:
Hi,

thanks for the effort but opening a command prompt and doing f: reults in
a popup stating there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into
drive F:.

I think it has to do with some form of copy protection.

Patrick

Dale M. White said:
Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam download
of the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that problem with
Vista64 as well, I think it was when I was trying to install Supreme
Commander, When I would click on the DVD it would want to try and write
to it (which it couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run and
type CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit enter.
Assuming your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like from the
command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see this
problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch


Patrick said:
Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde DVDs
from the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a disc
when I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store, same
problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being a
problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have them
for free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good guy, buy the
games and it doesn't work.
 
D

Dale M. White

One other thing you might try, is to go to Control panel- user acounts and
turn off the User Account Control, reboot and see if that makes any
difference


Dale M. White said:
Wow that is a odd one. I guess if you're not able to take the game back
then you might be stuck. It's probably using SecureRom or Starforce, both
give vista fits (and even XP to a degree). If you can refund the game,
probably you other option is to get HL2 and EP1 via the steam method.

Oddly enough Valve supports Vista, but I guess if they can't get the Vista
to reconize the DVD, then they will have to change their copy protection
means.


Patrick said:
Hi,

thanks for the effort but opening a command prompt and doing f: reults in
a popup stating there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into
drive F:.

I think it has to do with some form of copy protection.

Patrick

Dale M. White said:
Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam download
of the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that problem with
Vista64 as well, I think it was when I was trying to install Supreme
Commander, When I would click on the DVD it would want to try and write
to it (which it couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run and
type CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit enter.
Assuming your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like from the
command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see this
problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch


Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde DVDs
from the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a disc
when I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store,
same problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being a
problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have them
for free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good guy, buy the
games and it doesn't work.
 
A

Andy

EA uses Safedisc in their encoding.

Copy Protection should not effect your computers ability to read a CD
directory. Could be your DVD drive just doesn't like how this disc is setup.
Might borrow an external DVD drive and see if that works. Try the disc in
another computer.

The Steam idea is good, but I'm guessing he got a good deal on the disc
version. I've noticed the games on Steam are a bit more usually than some of
those retail versions.

Here's ANOTHER idea (just thought of it). Go to http://www.steampowered.com
(Assuming you don't have Steam on your computer), download and install
Steam, Make an account once you get online, Click on Games Menu (Not My
Games Tab) and select Activate a product on Steam...

Steam will ask for the CD Key that came with the game, enter and you can
download the entire game off the Steam Network.

It'll take WAY longer, but it should work.


Dale M. White said:
Wow that is a odd one. I guess if you're not able to take the game back
then you might be stuck. It's probably using SecureRom or Starforce, both
give vista fits (and even XP to a degree). If you can refund the game,
probably you other option is to get HL2 and EP1 via the steam method.

Oddly enough Valve supports Vista, but I guess if they can't get the Vista
to reconize the DVD, then they will have to change their copy protection
means.


Patrick said:
Hi,

thanks for the effort but opening a command prompt and doing f: reults in
a popup stating there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into
drive F:.

I think it has to do with some form of copy protection.

Patrick

Dale M. White said:
Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam download
of the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that problem with
Vista64 as well, I think it was when I was trying to install Supreme
Commander, When I would click on the DVD it would want to try and write
to it (which it couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run and
type CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit enter.
Assuming your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like from the
command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see this
problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch


Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde DVDs
from the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a disc
when I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store,
same problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being a
problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have them
for free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good guy, buy the
games and it doesn't work.
 
D

Dale White V64

I agree that it shouldn't but over in the Supreme Commander forum there was
alot of talk about this as well. In fact, THQ and Gaspowered Games did the
unthinkable and removed the CD check in their 2nd patch because it was such
a problem. Granted, most of these problems were with people who got the game
installed, but couldn't read it.

Does EA do Valves CD\DVDs ??

I heard the problem was specific to 64bit OS, something about something
couldn't load right. I didn't pay enough attention, so I guess I'm not much
help.




Andy said:
EA uses Safedisc in their encoding.

Copy Protection should not effect your computers ability to read a CD
directory. Could be your DVD drive just doesn't like how this disc is
setup. Might borrow an external DVD drive and see if that works. Try the
disc in another computer.

The Steam idea is good, but I'm guessing he got a good deal on the disc
version. I've noticed the games on Steam are a bit more usually than some
of those retail versions.

Here's ANOTHER idea (just thought of it). Go to
http://www.steampowered.com (Assuming you don't have Steam on your
computer), download and install Steam, Make an account once you get
online, Click on Games Menu (Not My Games Tab) and select Activate a
product on Steam...

Steam will ask for the CD Key that came with the game, enter and you can
download the entire game off the Steam Network.

It'll take WAY longer, but it should work.


Dale M. White said:
Wow that is a odd one. I guess if you're not able to take the game back
then you might be stuck. It's probably using SecureRom or Starforce, both
give vista fits (and even XP to a degree). If you can refund the game,
probably you other option is to get HL2 and EP1 via the steam method.

Oddly enough Valve supports Vista, but I guess if they can't get the
Vista to reconize the DVD, then they will have to change their copy
protection means.


Patrick said:
Hi,

thanks for the effort but opening a command prompt and doing f: reults
in a popup stating there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk
into drive F:.

I think it has to do with some form of copy protection.

Patrick

Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam
download of the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that
problem with Vista64 as well, I think it was when I was trying to
install Supreme Commander, When I would click on the DVD it would want
to try and write to it (which it couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run and
type CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit enter.
Assuming your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like from the
command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see
this problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch


Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde
DVDs from the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a
disc when I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store,
same problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being a
problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have them
for free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good guy, buy
the games and it doesn't work.
 
K

Kamal Rahim

What you can do is Download steam, create an account and register the serial
number to you account. That way you won't need the dvd, you can just
download it straight from their site. I had the CD's, and due ti several
reformats, i never used the cd's again.

Dale White V64 said:
I agree that it shouldn't but over in the Supreme Commander forum there was
alot of talk about this as well. In fact, THQ and Gaspowered Games did the
unthinkable and removed the CD check in their 2nd patch because it was such
a problem. Granted, most of these problems were with people who got the
game installed, but couldn't read it.

Does EA do Valves CD\DVDs ??

I heard the problem was specific to 64bit OS, something about something
couldn't load right. I didn't pay enough attention, so I guess I'm not
much help.




Andy said:
EA uses Safedisc in their encoding.

Copy Protection should not effect your computers ability to read a CD
directory. Could be your DVD drive just doesn't like how this disc is
setup. Might borrow an external DVD drive and see if that works. Try the
disc in another computer.

The Steam idea is good, but I'm guessing he got a good deal on the disc
version. I've noticed the games on Steam are a bit more usually than some
of those retail versions.

Here's ANOTHER idea (just thought of it). Go to
http://www.steampowered.com (Assuming you don't have Steam on your
computer), download and install Steam, Make an account once you get
online, Click on Games Menu (Not My Games Tab) and select Activate a
product on Steam...

Steam will ask for the CD Key that came with the game, enter and you can
download the entire game off the Steam Network.

It'll take WAY longer, but it should work.


Dale M. White said:
Wow that is a odd one. I guess if you're not able to take the game back
then you might be stuck. It's probably using SecureRom or Starforce,
both give vista fits (and even XP to a degree). If you can refund the
game, probably you other option is to get HL2 and EP1 via the steam
method.

Oddly enough Valve supports Vista, but I guess if they can't get the
Vista to reconize the DVD, then they will have to change their copy
protection means.


Hi,

thanks for the effort but opening a command prompt and doing f: reults
in a popup stating there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk
into drive F:.

I think it has to do with some form of copy protection.

Patrick

Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam
download of the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that
problem with Vista64 as well, I think it was when I was trying to
install Supreme Commander, When I would click on the DVD it would want
to try and write to it (which it couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run and
type CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit enter.
Assuming your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like from the
command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see
this problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch


Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde
DVDs from the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a
disc when I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store,
same problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being a
problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have
them for free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good guy,
buy the games and it doesn't work.
 
P

Patrick

That worked for Episode One but with the regular HL2 Steam tells me to to a
DVD install first. I't won't activate without the dvd install having taken
place.
The deal on HL2 wasn't great. It was ?19,95 and I didn't buy online with
download because I want to have an install dvd at hand.


Kamal Rahim said:
What you can do is Download steam, create an account and register the
serial number to you account. That way you won't need the dvd, you can
just download it straight from their site. I had the CD's, and due ti
several reformats, i never used the cd's again.

Dale White V64 said:
I agree that it shouldn't but over in the Supreme Commander forum there
was alot of talk about this as well. In fact, THQ and Gaspowered Games did
the unthinkable and removed the CD check in their 2nd patch because it was
such a problem. Granted, most of these problems were with people who got
the game installed, but couldn't read it.

Does EA do Valves CD\DVDs ??

I heard the problem was specific to 64bit OS, something about something
couldn't load right. I didn't pay enough attention, so I guess I'm not
much help.




Andy said:
EA uses Safedisc in their encoding.

Copy Protection should not effect your computers ability to read a CD
directory. Could be your DVD drive just doesn't like how this disc is
setup. Might borrow an external DVD drive and see if that works. Try the
disc in another computer.

The Steam idea is good, but I'm guessing he got a good deal on the disc
version. I've noticed the games on Steam are a bit more usually than
some of those retail versions.

Here's ANOTHER idea (just thought of it). Go to
http://www.steampowered.com (Assuming you don't have Steam on your
computer), download and install Steam, Make an account once you get
online, Click on Games Menu (Not My Games Tab) and select Activate a
product on Steam...

Steam will ask for the CD Key that came with the game, enter and you can
download the entire game off the Steam Network.

It'll take WAY longer, but it should work.


Wow that is a odd one. I guess if you're not able to take the game back
then you might be stuck. It's probably using SecureRom or Starforce,
both give vista fits (and even XP to a degree). If you can refund the
game, probably you other option is to get HL2 and EP1 via the steam
method.

Oddly enough Valve supports Vista, but I guess if they can't get the
Vista to reconize the DVD, then they will have to change their copy
protection means.


Hi,

thanks for the effort but opening a command prompt and doing f: reults
in a popup stating there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk
into drive F:.

I think it has to do with some form of copy protection.

Patrick

Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam
download of the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that
problem with Vista64 as well, I think it was when I was trying to
install Supreme Commander, When I would click on the DVD it would
want to try and write to it (which it couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run
and type CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit
enter. Assuming your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like
from the command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see
this problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch


Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde
DVDs from the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a
disc when I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store,
same problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being
a problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have
them for free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good guy,
buy the games and it doesn't work.
 
D

Dale M. White

$19.95 is better than the $49.95 I paid. I understand the desire to have the
DVD handy. I normally never do the download stuff, but I though what the
heck, I'll give it a try. The good part about the steam stuff, is that I
keep my games on a another hard drive. If I re-install my OS or in this
case, Install Vista, all I have to do is run the Steam Setup and then point
it to where I already have it loaded and it sees whatI have and off it goes.
No re-installing neeeded. I can even make a copy to DVD of my Steam folder
and format that drive, recopy teh data from DVD and I'm back up and running.
So at least in Steam's case, it's been pretty flexible. Plus I don't have to
go through the whole insert DVD to play crap. If all game downloads worked
as well as Steam, I'd probably be willing to buy more games like that.

About the only other thing I could suggest is taking that DVD to another PC,
copying the game over to a USB hard drive or via a network connection try
doing the install. Once you get the game install, you could try putting the
DVD in to see if it will validate.


Patrick said:
That worked for Episode One but with the regular HL2 Steam tells me to to
a DVD install first. I't won't activate without the dvd install having
taken place.
The deal on HL2 wasn't great. It was ?19,95 and I didn't buy online with
download because I want to have an install dvd at hand.


Kamal Rahim said:
What you can do is Download steam, create an account and register the
serial number to you account. That way you won't need the dvd, you can
just download it straight from their site. I had the CD's, and due ti
several reformats, i never used the cd's again.

Dale White V64 said:
I agree that it shouldn't but over in the Supreme Commander forum there
was alot of talk about this as well. In fact, THQ and Gaspowered Games
did the unthinkable and removed the CD check in their 2nd patch because
it was such a problem. Granted, most of these problems were with people
who got the game installed, but couldn't read it.

Does EA do Valves CD\DVDs ??

I heard the problem was specific to 64bit OS, something about something
couldn't load right. I didn't pay enough attention, so I guess I'm not
much help.




EA uses Safedisc in their encoding.

Copy Protection should not effect your computers ability to read a CD
directory. Could be your DVD drive just doesn't like how this disc is
setup. Might borrow an external DVD drive and see if that works. Try
the disc in another computer.

The Steam idea is good, but I'm guessing he got a good deal on the disc
version. I've noticed the games on Steam are a bit more usually than
some of those retail versions.

Here's ANOTHER idea (just thought of it). Go to
http://www.steampowered.com (Assuming you don't have Steam on your
computer), download and install Steam, Make an account once you get
online, Click on Games Menu (Not My Games Tab) and select Activate a
product on Steam...

Steam will ask for the CD Key that came with the game, enter and you
can download the entire game off the Steam Network.

It'll take WAY longer, but it should work.


Wow that is a odd one. I guess if you're not able to take the game
back then you might be stuck. It's probably using SecureRom or
Starforce, both give vista fits (and even XP to a degree). If you can
refund the game, probably you other option is to get HL2 and EP1 via
the steam method.

Oddly enough Valve supports Vista, but I guess if they can't get the
Vista to reconize the DVD, then they will have to change their copy
protection means.


Hi,

thanks for the effort but opening a command prompt and doing f:
reults in a popup stating there is no disk in the drive. Please
insert a disk into drive F:.

I think it has to do with some form of copy protection.

Patrick

Not sure I'll be able to help too much, because I did the steam
download of the game over the DVD. Though it seems like I had that
problem with Vista64 as well, I think it was when I was trying to
install Supreme Commander, When I would click on the DVD it would
want to try and write to it (which it couldn't)

You could always try opening the Command prompt (go to Start - run
and type CMD) and then go to your DVD drive and type setup and hit
enter. Assuming your DVD drive is Z, here's what it would look like
from the command prompt

c:\users\patrick> Z: [hit enter]
Z:\> setup [hit enter]

Program should start up

This is kinda of the long way around it, but hopefully you want see
this problem very often, or maybe it will get fix in a patch


Hi all,

I run Vista64 Ultimate and I just got the HL2 and HL2 Episode Onde
DVDs from the store.
When I insert one of these DVDs Vista keeps telling me to insert a
disc when I double click on the drive icon.

I returned the DVDs to the store and got new DVDs at another store,
same problem.
I can't even view the contents of the DVDs le alone install!

All other DVDs I have work.

What's the prolem here? I found so references to Alcohol 120% being
a problem but I have no such software installed.

Patrick
btw. this sucks, if I find myself a torrent for both games I have
them for free and they work. Me, the smuck wanting to be a good
guy, buy the games and it doesn't work.
 

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