H E L P me buy a top gaming rig

[ulsterbrit]

Please H E L P...

hi guys i need help here, as i dont want to be buying a pc what lasts about 1 year b4 i have to upgrade it like i have done with pcworld.
my price range is 1600£-2000£ the pc,s on wired2fire.co.uk are sweet looking but pcspecialist.co.uk sell same rig far cheaper but ive seen a few bad reviews on the web about them,, where should i buy a pc and what should the specs be ex processor amd or intel and what speed. and what g/card. please only pro,s reply . this pc is mainly for gaming. thanks guys.

 

[floppybootstomp]

Unfortunately I'm not a Pro so I can't help you. Damn.

All Pros step this way please

In the meantime, a few links to a few threads that may help:

https://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2704526.php

https://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2707748.php

https://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2749791.php

I don't know much about ready made systems but the only supplier I'd trust for an off the shelf system would be Novatech. Which is mostly because I don't know any others

 

[ulsterbrit]

floppy ive seen your posts you seem to know your stuff m8,, no its not rdy made you design it your self with anything you want they just put it together. was wondering what the best stuff to put inside will be.

 

[ulsterbrit]

the rig ive designed feal free to say if ive picked somthing not up to scratch.

case = Antec P180 Silver
power supply = Tagan Turbojet 900W
processor = Core 2 Duo E6700 4MB cache
cpu cooler = Thermaltake Golden Orb Cooler
g/card = BFG GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB PCI Express
memory = 2GB Corsair DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX
board = Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe Socket 775
hardrive = 320GB Caviar SE16 SATA 300 ( i dont think the small speed increase of the raptor is worth the extras please say if i should change this item)
drive1 = BTC DVD-Rom x16
drive2 = NEC 4570A DVD-RW
cost is like 2000£ and 1 year returntobase and parts. designed it at wired2fire.

 

[Alf]

i would get a different CPU cooler, other wise i have nothing bad to say.
why dont you make a self build?

 

[floppybootstomp]

A very good system

I'm not sure if the price difference between the 6600 and the 6700 chips warrants the relatively small increase in performance.

Consider a Zalman 775 cooler, they're very good and very quiet.

Only those who've never experienced a Raptor drive, especially a pair in RAID 0, dismiss them as not worth the money.

Yes, they are bloody expensive but once you've tried one or two you'll understand why.

But, having said all that, the system above as chosen is really superb

 

[michael 118]

very very nice specification, however do you need a 900W power supply? they are pretty damn expensive...

 

[ulsterbrit]

the onlt other choise of a cooler is a Zalman Ultra Quiet CNPS7700-Cu Cooler this 1 anygood guys?
michael reason i wanted the 900w was for future prove as i plan on putting 2 of these BFG GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB PCI Express in. plus ill be buying a watercooling system to run inside. floppy i was considering getting Core 2 Extreme QX6700 8MB cache think its worth it m8?

 

[ulsterbrit]

ps. i wouldnt know where to start at putting 1 together myself i was going to buy every thing singly ofline and take it to maplin to put it together for me. but if the computer messed up i wouldnt have a recovery disc to fix comp like i would with a firm?

 

[floppybootstomp]

The Quad Processor Core 2 Extreme QX6700 is possibly the best processor available on the market. It's very very good indeed. If you can afford it go for it. It's £705.00.

The Zalman cooler is very good.

No, you won't get a recovery disk. You really should stop thinking in that mindset 'recovery disk'. You've moved up a league now, the Win XP CD is in itself a recovery disk.

If ever you need help recovering a crashed system, post here and ask for help.

How much would Maplins charge to put that system together for you? It's a shame one of the forum guys isn't near you, they'd do it for you, and do it well.

 

[ulsterbrit]

ive also made 1 up on alienware for a little more costly but would it be as good as the other system?

Alienware® AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling + AlienFX™ System Lighting + Alienware® High-Performance Liquid Cooling

700 Watt Alienware® Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply (maybe to small? but they dont have any higher?)

Alienware® Approved NVIDIA nForce™ 4 SLI Motherboard

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz 4MB Cache 1066MHz FSB

2GB DDR2 PC-6400 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 1024MB

Dual 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7950 GT - SLI Enabled ( whats this card like aint heard much of it??)

AGEIA PhysX™ Physics Processing Unit (havent added this as i was told it dont add much to gaming is this right?))

video optimser AlienAdrenaline: Video Performance

500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7,200 RPM with 16MB Cache

18x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive

AlienWiring - Exclusive Internal Wire Management + AlienInspection - Exclusive Integration and Inspection
costs all in 2000£
what gaming rig would be best built and fastest?

 

[ulsterbrit]

they said that if i buy 1 of the items what goes in my new rig they would put it all together for 20£

 

[michael 118]

michael reason i wanted the 900w was for future prove as i plan on putting 2 of these BFG GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB PCI Express in.

ah yes, only worth having a 900W supply if your going to have 2 power hungry cards in SLI.

just seeing if we can cut down some money is all

 

[michael 118]

ive also made 1 up on alienware for a little more costly but would it be as good as the other system?


700 Watt Alienware® Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply (maybe to small? but they dont have any higher?)


Dual 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7950 GT - SLI Enabled ( whats this card like aint heard much of it??)

AGEIA PhysX™ Physics Processing Unit (havent added this as i was told it dont add much to gaming is this right?))

500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7,200 RPM with 16MB Cache

18x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive

what gaming rig would be best built and fastest?

Alienware is big and expensive, but they are great machines.

this is where i custom built my computer, may be good if you had a little lookie: www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk

The power supply would be enough regarding the rest of the machine, and it does say it is designed for multi GPU's (basically more than one graphics card)

i actually run a 500W supply using one 7950GT card. yes, those cards are excellent, but the 8800's may be better in the long run because they are designed to use windows vista.

The phsyX card is only really worth it if you plan to play games which need it. since there are few games that require the phsyX card and the 2 7950GT's you are putting in will run all games to date at pretty much max settings then i wouldnt personally reccomend it. you may feel different though . maybe get the card when it comes down in price (which it certainly will do).

also,do you really need 500GB of memory? i managed for 3 years with 80GB on my old rig..

yes looks reasonable for the money, coming from alienware.
what about the monitor/speakers if any?

 

[ulsterbrit]

no i have a monitor speakers and soundcard with my old rig what is still pretty powerfull old rig is

3.2 intel processor
1gig ram
120gb hdd
all in wonder x800 g/card

aye i looked at the pc,s on cyber power there not bad either, what would be the best pc if i made em from either cyberpower wired2fire or alienware dont mind if 1 firm costs an extra 100 or 200

 

[ulsterbrit]

ok just made 1 up on cyberpower the 3 pc rigs ive wrote down including this 1 is all around 3grand what would be the best buy?
this is the cyberpower1
CoolerMaster Stacker 830 Mid-Tower Case W/ Side-panel Window

Tagan 900W TG900-U95 TurboJet Quad Quiet SLI Ready Power Sup

Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo X6800 Extreme Edition @ 2.93GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB L2 Cache EM64T ( is this chip any diff from the other 2? )

CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit + 2 EXTRA CASE FANS

Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe nForce4 SLI Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394&7.1Audio

(Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Memory w/ Heat Spreader

NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB 16X PCI Express Video Card

320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

SONY DUAL FORMAT 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER

SONY 16X DVD-ROM

 

[ulsterbrit]

ok i know my noobness is anoying you guys, lol but its just i dont want ripped off again.


just made a pc on pcspecialists what destroys the rest on speed and price was wondering if there is a reason for this? like crapy staff or poorly built?
here is the specs all this for 2 grand

Processor (CPU)

INTEL® Core 2 Extreme X6800 (2 X 2.93GHz) 1066MHz FSB/4MB Cache


Memory (RAM)

2048 MB CORSAIR DDR2 800MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (2x1GB)


Motherboard

ASUS® P5N32 SLI SE DELUXE: 2 PCI, DUAL LAN, SATA RAID, 2 PCI etc


Operating System

MICROSOFT WINDOWS® XP HOME (inc. Genuine CD & license)


Vista Upgrade

Upgrade voucher to Vista Basic/Premium with purchase of XP Home


USB Options

USB PORTS & BLUETOOTH USB ADPATER


Memory - 1st Hard Disk

400GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE


1st CD/DVD Drive

18x +/- DVD WRITER (8x +/- Dual Lyr) (5x DVD-RAM) (40x CD-RW)

( 2 of these )
Graphics Card

768MB GEFORCE 8800GTX PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT


Case

Stylish Silver Aluminium Trigon Case + 2 Front/Side USB


Power Supply & cooling

1000W Quiet Five Rail PSU incl Case Fan & CPU Cooler


to me that sounds great but must be some kind of catch??

 

[michael 118]

Processor (CPU)

INTEL® Core 2 Extreme X6800 (2 X 2.93GHz) 1066MHz FSB/4MB Cache


Memory (RAM)

2048 MB CORSAIR DDR2 800MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (2x1GB)


Motherboard

ASUS® P5N32 SLI SE DELUXE: 2 PCI, DUAL LAN, SATA RAID, 2 PCI etc


Operating System

MICROSOFT WINDOWS® XP HOME (inc. Genuine CD & license)


Vista Upgrade

Upgrade voucher to Vista Basic/Premium with purchase of XP Home


USB Options

USB PORTS & BLUETOOTH USB ADPATER


Memory - 1st Hard Disk

400GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE


1st CD/DVD Drive

18x +/- DVD WRITER (8x +/- Dual Lyr) (5x DVD-RAM) (40x CD-RW)

( 2 of these )
Graphics Card

768MB GEFORCE 8800GTX PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT


Case

Stylish Silver Aluminium Trigon Case + 2 Front/Side USB


Power Supply & cooling

1000W Quiet Five Rail PSU incl Case Fan & CPU Cooler


to me that sounds great but must be some kind of catch??

does look great indeed, i dont think there is a catch though. i never heard of pc specialist, it might be new (correct me if im wrong anyone) so the stuff is pretty cheap. that was the same with cyberpower before those prices increased.

out of all of them, i dont think there are any huge 'rip offs', they are all excellent machines and will last.

it is a large sum of money, but go with whatever feels most comfortable. if money isnt an issue, go with alienware.or pcspecialist. sorry i am a bit vague... hm what does everyone else think? which site to buy from?

 

[Me__2001]

pcspecialist have been around for quite a while, i havent dealt with them personally but i've never heard anything bad about them (not that i've been looking), all of the systems you've specced up are pretty much the same so go with whatever one you want and keep us posted on how it all goes

BTW personally i wouldn't buy all the bits and take them to maplin, if your gonna go that route see if you can find a local PC builder that will put it all together and teach you at the same time

 

[michael 118]

BTW personally i wouldn't buy all the bits and take them to maplin, if your gonna go that route see if you can find a local PC builder that will put it all together and teach you at the same time

yup i second that