Good anti-virus and firewall programs- please recommend

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Guest

I too had Spybot loaded -- and that was the first glitch that Norton
encountered when upgrading. This caused pieces of Norton to remain on the
system following the abort. Following the removal of Spybot the second
installation attempt of Norton produced further corruption. Lord knows...the
quirkiest was changing the rights to the Temp folders -- disabling writes --
that'll drive you nutz since it was completely unexpected
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Dolphin said:
Spencer, I also have had the same experience with Norton since the
late 70's and have never been burnt yet anyways.


I was one of those people who used Norton products successfully for many
years and poo-pooed the
advice of those who warned against it. I had it installed on all my own
machines and those of several others I supported. Then I started
experiencing a raft of problems of various types with it on several of those
machines.

Now I recommend against it for everybody. In my experience, even if you have
never had a problem with it, you're likely to have one soon. Not only are
there better, less bloated, less invasive, and better working alternatives,
most of them are also free.
 
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D. Spencer Hines

I've been using Norton Internet Security for several years and have yet to
have a problem with it. It plays well with things like SpyBot, Adaware,
and SpyCop.

I started with Norton back in the days of DOS...
--
Tom - Vista, CA
Bingo!

I started with Norton back in the days of DOS...

So did I -- I've always found it to be Good Software -- and Constantly
Improving.

It's just too powerful for some people to work with -- but that's their
problem, not the software's.

Hackers can be powerful too -- so I want something powerful to stop them.

DSH
 
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D. Spencer Hines

Not True At All In My Experience.

I've been using Norton and Symantec products for about 15-16 years and they
have performed superbly.

Folks just don't know how to install, operate and uninstall them properly --
but that's THEIR problem, not Symantec's.

For one thing, they are often too dumb and careless to read the instructions
in the Read Me files and other support literature BEFORE they do something
stupid.

DSH
 
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TOM

Dolphin wrote:





I was one of those people who used Norton products successfully for many
years and poo-pooed the
advice of those who warned against it. I had it installed on all my own
machines and those of several others I supported. Then I started
experiencing a raft of problems of various types with it on several of those
machines.

Now I recommend against it for everybody. In my experience, even if you have
never had a problem with it, you're likely to have one soon. Not only are
there better, less bloated, less invasive, and better working alternatives,
most of them are also free.

I understand your point, but it's a little like warning that if you
cross the street you'll get hit by a car. It might not have happened
yet, but it's inevitable.

Or a little more extreme (and off topic, I might add), 100% of people
who have ever eaten bread eventually die, therefore, bread must be
poisonous... :>))
 
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TOM

Amen!

I don't usually advocate using Norton products, not because I don't like
them (as I stated earlier, I've used Norton since the days of DOS
(Norton Commander, etc)), but because I feel that virus protection and
firewalls are very personal things for most of us, bordering on a kind
of religion.

I'm the kind of person that uses something that works for me, not
because someone else tells me it's the thing to use. However, if someone
I respect and trust, tells me something works, and it's something I
need, I will probably give it a try.

All I can do is tell you what works for me, not advocate that you
switch. If you have something that works for you, good for you!

I won't put you down for what you use and simply ask the same courtesy.

Tom -- Vista, CA -- USA

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
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TOM

Debbie said:
I too had Spybot loaded -- and that was the first glitch that Norton
encountered when upgrading. This caused pieces of Norton to remain on the
system following the abort. Following the removal of Spybot the second
installation attempt of Norton produced further corruption. Lord knows...the
quirkiest was changing the rights to the Temp folders -- disabling writes --
that'll drive you nutz since it was completely unexpected

:

I never ran into anything like that...
 
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TOM

Debbie said:
BTW

Norton is considered more a "personal" use item -- I have yet to be in a
large install base where it is utilized. Reason being -- its a pig that
causes many conflicts.

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

We had it where I work (several hundred PCs), but the company didn't
want to pay the prices they were asking so went to a program called
Nod32. The IT folks at work swear by it...

If I wasn't happy with Norton's products, I would probably investigate it:

http://www.eset.com/
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

TOM said:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

I understand your point, but it's a little like warning that if you
cross the street you'll get hit by a car. It might not have happened
yet, but it's inevitable.


I don't see it as the same at all. The risks with Norton, in my experience ,
are much greater than those of being hit with a car. I know lots of people
who have had trouble with Norton products who have never been hit by a car.
 
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D. Spencer Hines

If they had been hit by a car they might very well not have been able to
tell you about it -- whereas many pogues kvetch about Norton and Symantec
products out of Pure Ignorance and Impatient Incompetence.

DSH
 

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