Go Away, Take Hike, Get Lost, Quit bugging me.....

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casey.o

In both computers I have XP installed, there is that damn icon for the
Security Essentials AV software that comes with XP. One of the first
things I do when I install XP, is to disable that. AV software just
slows down the whole system. I NEVER run it ALL THE TIME. I will
manually run a scan when I feel like it, and that's it. Right now,
neither XP computer can connect to the internet anyhow, so there is no
reason at all to have the AV running. (I do all my downloading on my
Win98 computer).

Anyhow every few minutes this REAL ANNOYING Naggin balloon message pops
up from the taskbar saying "Your computer may be at risk". I want it
GONE...... In other words, Go Away, Take Hike, Get Lost, Quit bugging
me..... or more bluntly stated.... F^%K OFF!!!

How do I turn it off permanently?
 
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JJ

In both computers I have XP installed, there is that damn icon for the
Security Essentials AV software that comes with XP. One of the first
things I do when I install XP, is to disable that. AV software just
slows down the whole system. I NEVER run it ALL THE TIME. I will
manually run a scan when I feel like it, and that's it. Right now,
neither XP computer can connect to the internet anyhow, so there is no
reason at all to have the AV running. (I do all my downloading on my
Win98 computer).

Anyhow every few minutes this REAL ANNOYING Naggin balloon message pops
up from the taskbar saying "Your computer may be at risk". I want it
GONE...... In other words, Go Away, Take Hike, Get Lost, Quit bugging
me..... or more bluntly stated.... F^%K OFF!!!

How do I turn it off permanently?

I think that's a notification from the System Center. Set it not to monitor
AV or firewall state. Or better yet, disable the service.
 
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casey.o

I think that's a notification from the System Center. Set it not to monitor
AV or firewall state. Or better yet, disable the service.

I think I found it.

---> Control panel ---> Security center.

Inside under "Resources", it says "Change the way security center alerts
me". When I opened it, there are 3 checkboxes. I unchecked all of
them. The icon for "security" is now gone from the taskbar.

Thank God that's gone!
I hate Naggy software.....
 
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Daave

In both computers I have XP installed, there is that damn icon for the
Security Essentials AV software that comes with XP. One of the first
things I do when I install XP, is to disable that. AV software just
slows down the whole system. I NEVER run it ALL THE TIME. I will
manually run a scan when I feel like it, and that's it. Right now,
neither XP computer can connect to the internet anyhow, so there is no
reason at all to have the AV running. (I do all my downloading on my
Win98 computer).

Anyhow every few minutes this REAL ANNOYING Naggin balloon message
pops up from the taskbar saying "Your computer may be at risk". I
want it GONE...... In other words, Go Away, Take Hike, Get Lost,
Quit bugging me..... or more bluntly stated.... F^%K OFF!!!

How do I turn it off permanently?

XP does NOT come with any AV software. So I'm not sure what you are
referring to. (There is AV software called Microsoft Securtity
Essentials, but again it does not come pre-installed on XP.)

There is of course the Windows Firewall, but that certainly doesn't slow
anything down.

And there are always the Automatic Updates.

If you're running XP without AV, you are taking risks (and you might
become part of a spambot network).
 
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casey.o

XP does NOT come with any AV software. So I'm not sure what you are
referring to. (There is AV software called Microsoft Securtity
Essentials, but again it does not come pre-installed on XP.)

I just installed XP Home sp2 today. Right off the CD. I only added a
utility CPU-ID (CPU-Z) and installed partition magic and winzip. So,
this AV *IS* on my install CD.
There is of course the Windows Firewall, but that certainly doesn't slow
anything down.

That's part of it. And on my slower XP computer, it makes connecting
via dialup impossible. I have to turn it off to connect.
And there are always the Automatic Updates.
That's on there too. Which I turn off since I'n not connected to the
net, an even if I was, I dont allow any updates. First off, I onlyhave
dialup, and second, I dont let anything automatically download to my
computers. That's risky. I do everything manually. At least then I
know what is happening.
If you're running XP without AV, you are taking risks (and you might
become part of a spambot network).

Surely not any risk at all, when this computer is not connected to the
internet or networked to anything else. If I do connect it to the net,
then I'll activate some sort of AV.
 
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Paul

I just installed XP Home sp2 today. Right off the CD. I only added a
utility CPU-ID (CPU-Z) and installed partition magic and winzip. So,
this AV *IS* on my install CD.

If you're seeing "Security Center", that's not an AV product.
That's a notification service, intended to notify the user
that they haven't installed an AV product. The idea would
be, any AV product that is well designed, reports to the
Security Center, so it can stop the nagging.

Products like these come separately. They're not on your WinXP CD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Defender

You can review options for protecting your OS here. With
dialup, it would be a PITA to maintain the definitions file
for one of these. There is a column in the table, indicating
which ones are payware, and which ones are free (with
added nagging or toolbars as your "fee").

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_antivirus_software

You can harden your OS with this product (EMET) from Microsoft.
It adds things like Address Space Layout Randomization. This is
NOT an AV. It just helps the OS resist certain flavors of attack.

Description "Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit"

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/jj653751

Download

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=41138

Paul
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>,
I think I found it.

---> Control panel ---> Security center.

Inside under "Resources", it says "Change the way security center alerts
me". When I opened it, there are 3 checkboxes. I unchecked all of
them. The icon for "security" is now gone from the taskbar.

Thank God that's gone!
I hate Naggy software.....
For the less-disconnected of us, i. e. those remaining connected, does
anyone know how to turn off the nagbox that MSE seems to have gained in
its latest update? I am aware of the situation, and don't need to be
reminded of it, thank you. At least, the nagbox _seems_ to be coming
from MSE, rather than the security center; its title bar mentions MSE.
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per (e-mail address removed):
AV software just
slows down the whole system. I NEVER run it ALL THE TIME. I will
manually run a scan when I feel like it, and that's it.

I think you have been lucky so far.

My instance of AVAST flags a malware-carrying email or malware-injecting
web site at least 3 times per week - maybe more.
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message said:
Per (e-mail address removed):

I think you have been lucky so far.

My instance of AVAST flags a malware-carrying email or malware-injecting
web site at least 3 times per week - maybe more.
Care to share a sample URL (if only to show casey.o)? Doesn't have to be
a pron/warez site (-:!
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message said:
Per (e-mail address removed):

I think you have been lucky so far.

My instance of AVAST flags a malware-carrying email or malware-injecting
web site at least 3 times per week - maybe more.
Care to share a sample URL (if only to show casey.o)? Doesn't have to be
a pron/warez site (-:!
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per J. P. Gilliver (John):
Care to share a sample URL (if only to show casey.o)? Doesn't have to be
a pron/warez site (-:!

The most malware I've ever cleaned out of a PC was on a laptop where the
guy's wife said he visited a lot of porn sites. Porn and Warez sites
seem to have the most malware.

Most of my Avast alerts come from spam email. But I've definitely had a
few sites flagged - and they were sites where you wouldn't expect any
problems.
 
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Bob F

I think I found it.

---> Control panel ---> Security center.

Inside under "Resources", it says "Change the way security center
alerts me". When I opened it, there are 3 checkboxes. I unchecked
all of them. The icon for "security" is now gone from the taskbar.

Thank God that's gone!
I hate Naggy software.....


Thank you, thank you!!!

I've hated the "automatic updates" nag for years.
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per Bill in Co:
Presumably from spam email *with attachments*. (But if you don't open
those, you should be ok even without AV software in this case, I'd expect).

The nastiest infection I've seen (can't recall the name of the virus)
required a total rebuild of the system.

The user got one of Avast's "This email contains a virus" and, unless
you click 'Ignore', it's going in to quarantine".... so, macho guy
that he was, he clicked the "Ignore" button.

I like Avast - even with it's recent sales popups - but I think they're
missing something when they do not offer a setting that disables the
"Ignore" option.
 
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BillW50

In (PeteCresswell) typed:
Per (e-mail address removed):

I think you have been lucky so far.

My instance of AVAST flags a malware-carrying email or
malware-injecting web site at least 3 times per week - maybe more.

Wow! Avast doesn't complain here except maybe once or twice a year on
websites that I don't usually go too. Email malware has stopped for me
for many years now, since ISPs has started scanning their servers for
malware.
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per BillW50:
Wow! Avast doesn't complain here except maybe once or twice a year on
websites that I don't usually go too. Email malware has stopped for me
for many years now, since ISPs has started scanning their servers for
malware.

I think my email provider is conspicuously weak in malware-spotting. But
that's not an issue with me because Avast seems to spot everything that
gets thrown at it.

The vast majority of my malware alerts (like 98%..) are emails. Web
pages are rare for me. OTOH, I use Web-Of-Trust on my browser and
mostly follow it's recommendations.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

I think my email provider is conspicuously weak in malware-spotting. But
that's not an issue with me because Avast seems to spot everything that
gets thrown at it.



Avast does a good job, as far as I'm concerned. But it's important to
realize that it, like all other such programs, is not perfect. It can
*not* "spot everything that gets thrown at it. "
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per Ken Blake, MVP:
Avast does a good job, as far as I'm concerned. But it's important to
realize that it, like all other such programs, is not perfect. It can
*not* "spot everything that gets thrown at it. "

Also - and this is my only gripe with Avast - when it encounters an
email with suspect payload, it throws a dialog that, somewhere on the
dialog, has a button that allows the user to ignore the notification and
treat the email as a "good" email.

I'd want a setup option to disable that choice.

The worst-infected PC I've ever seen (had to rebuild it from scratch)
was because some macho guy just couldn't submit to the warning and just
*had* to click the "Ignore" button.
 

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