FSX

[PeteDC]

New computer. Vista Home Premium.
FSX continually stops loading and have to restart the loading process. Six
times to get it loaded, but all sytems not functioning.
Loaded Accelerator crashed whole system had to do repair of FSX and start
over again with continual stoppage. Don't know where to go from here. It
worked fine with XP

 

[Carl]

What is your computer spec? I have FSX and Acceleration on my Vista Home
Premium, and it runs flawlessly. Is your Vista fully patched, and I also
downloaded DirectX 9 and installed that too. There were a couple of KB
articles I downloaded as well, Windows6.0-KB933590-x64,
Windows6.0-KB938194-x64, Windows6.0-KB938979-x64, Windows6.0-KB940105-x64,
and, msicuu2. Some of them said they weren't for my system, but it was
that long ago, I couldn't say if these were them, I just checked my
downloads folder and those are the ones that are still in there. That is
with Home Premium 64bit. After you install the FSX, IIRC, there is a service
pack that needs to be installed before you put in Acceleration,
fsx_sp1_ENU. I hope this is of some help to you.

 

[Carl]

Also, try: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim They are a clever bunch.

 

[PeteDC]

Carl,
The problem is in the loading of the game into my computer, it keeps
stopping and won't restart, result have to reload again, six times before it
finally got loaded.
Vista Home Premium32 bit
500 GB Sata
2GB Memory
Asus P5K-E MO
evaga 8800GTS 612
Q6600 2.4G
All Win updates installed on computer
FSX Service pack #1 installed
FSX Service pack #2 not installed, due Accelarator installed.

 

[Carl]

Hmm, that machine should be well capable. Perhaps run a CD/DVD cleaning disc
through your optical drive, and check the connections on the motherboard and
the back of the DVD drive? Is the optical drive SATA? I have a SATA drive
that used to fail intermittently, and the problem was solved by replacing
the SATA lead, as the old one was not a secure fit, and would work slightly
out of the back of the optical drive. I know that that's not much advice,
but looking at your machine spec, that's about all I can think of. At least
it's one more thing to cross off the fault finding list.

 

[Carl]

Another thing, maybe uninstall the game, and then defrag the hard disk, and
run the diskcheck utility, in case there's any filing problems causing your
problems?

 

[Andy [YaYa]]

Hmm, that machine should be well capable. Perhaps run a CD/DVD
cleaning disc through your optical drive, and check the connections on
the motherboard and the back of the DVD drive? Is the optical drive
SATA? I have a SATA drive that used to fail intermittently, and the
problem was solved by replacing the SATA lead, as the old one was not
a secure fit, and would work slightly out of the back of the optical
drive. I know that that's not much advice, but looking at your
machine spec, that's about all I can think of. At least it's one more
thing to cross off the fault finding list.

I'd advise against using a CD cleaner, the optics in CD/DVD drives are
NOT designed to be touched by anything. If that is the problem it'll
only make it worse.

I couldn't quite decipher what was going on in your original post, is
the game failing to verify the DVD, or is there some other problem?
Usually if I game can't verify the CD it'll say "wrong CD, please insert
the correct one and try again" or something like that.

If that's what you're getting then yeah, try some of the suggestions
carl mentioned, but if it's something else.

Can you get into the game at all? Any error messages? You said it keeps
stopping, where does it stop? does anything happen at all? black screen?

I assume you built your system yourself? Ran any stress tests on your
hardware like Memtest86 to see if any hardware on your system is
failing?

 

[PeteDC]

Built it myself, did so on the previous on.
The program begins to load and you see the loading bar moving with the FSX
background screen and then it stops moving, it just stays stopped never
continues. then you have to restart the process all over again. Never stops
at the same spot, sometimes makes it to the second disc.. No error message,
no blank screen just stops.
Memtest86 was suggested by someone else, I have downlaod the program but
have not run as yet. But again it did the same thing on the previous machine
but not as bad. Different machine and different memory. Both machines were
Vista 32 OS.
Kinda a scared to run the memtest86 not sure what I am doing.

 

[Andy [YaYa]]

Built it myself, did so on the previous on.
The program begins to load and you see the loading bar moving with the
FSX background screen and then it stops moving, it just stays stopped
never continues. then you have to restart the process all over again.
Never stops at the same spot, sometimes makes it to the second disc..
No error message, no blank screen just stops.
Memtest86 was suggested by someone else, I have downlaod the program
but have not run as yet. But again it did the same thing on the
previous machine but not as bad. Different machine and different
memory. Both machines were Vista 32 OS.
Kinda a scared to run the memtest86 not sure what I am doing.

Dude, top down.

memtest86, insert Cd burned from ISO, reboot system, you should get a blue
screen the test will start right away, run it for at least a couple hours,
if you get ANY fails, replace (or just remove) the RAM indicated and run
the test again. Sometimes certain combinations of RAM may fail even though
the individual RAM DIMM isn't bad. fun fun.

It is really quite painless, no setup required, just run it. A lot of
Motherboard BIOSs actually have memtest built in, it's a solid test that I
think everyone should run, espically on newly built systems.

Your problem is strange, how long do you wait before you "restart" the
game. Any chance the game is just taking a REALLY long time to load? Did
you defrag your HD recently?

 

[PeteDC]

Carried out memtest86 very simple. Ran for hours started last night, got up
this morning and it said No problems detected. It said so on the screen and
told me to exit and reboot.

OK here is the story from the beginning.
Problem.
Initial loading of the game into the computer. Stops as shown on the loading
bar, minutes will go by and then it says system time out. I put the disc back
in and start loading all over again. Never stops at the same spot, sometimes
makes it to the second disc.

Observations.
1) System loaded fine with Win XP, first problem encountered when trying to
load after changing to Vista 32bit

2) The only thing left from the previous computer is the LG DVD/CD/ROM
burner. Had two DVD/CD burners, on previous computer noticed that the problem
was considerably better when using the Pioneer DVD/CD/ Burner than the
LG.(The LG was a faster model than the Pioneer)

I am going to try turning off the Norton Anti Virus and try the reload.

Defrag once per week.

Note: Considering purchasing a SATA burner today and removing the LG, I have
not had very much sucess with the LG products. My current HD is SATA.

06-14-2008 03:18 AM

 

[PeteDC]

Well, Norton off registery cleaned, stopped at the first bar and that's as
far as it went never start back even after one hour.
Going to buy a new burner today not LG and will try with SATA.
Noticed during the load process while watching monitor on side bar, CPU
usage less tha 20%(Q6600) memory was less that 50%.
Checked Task Manager during loading only show FSX and Asus ACPI Centre
running. No idea what Asus ACPI Centre means or does.

 

[Slap]

Carried out memtest86 very simple. Ran for hours started last night, got
up
this morning and it said No problems detected.

Note: Considering purchasing a SATA burner today and removing the LG, I
have
not had very much sucess with the LG products. My current HD is SATA.

That will probably fix it... the old burner might be marginal now.

 

[PeteDC]

New burner installed, zipped through the complete installation process and
didn't stop once. Added Acceleration brief pause at the end. Game complettely
installed no problems.

 

[Slap]

Great.! Nothing like new hardware. You also need Ultimate Terrain (UTX).
Really.

It is here...
http://www.scenerysolutions.com/

 

[Carl]

Good! Although, I would suggest FS Global 2008! What type/ make of drive did
you finally decide upon?

 

[PeteDC]

Pioneer DVR-215D main thing is SATA instaed of IDE. They tell me it is also
faster and less wiring inside to interupt airflow.
What is FS Global 2008?

 

[PeteDC]

SATA drive they tell its better than the IDE.
What is Ultimate Terrain?

 

[Slap]

SATA drive they tell its better than the IDE.
What is Ultimate Terrain?

Ultimate Terrain?

I guess it depends on how you fly the sim. Myself I use the prop planes.
My current favorite is Real Airs Scout amphibian. Good for about 90 knots.
I normally fly 1500 - 2000 feet AGL so 'low and slow'. Kinda like the
traffic report helicopters you see on the TV. So I like to see the city as
I would from the real life traffic aircraft.

That doesn't happen in FSX. In fact my city sits on a nice river. FSX
completely forgot about the south half of the city. The north part on the
city is just houses in FSX. FSX also forgot all the little towns around my
city.

Ultimate Terrain (UTX) adds all the towns. All the roads, fantastic
interchanges and puts street lights and traffic on them. All the water
(streams, small bodies of water, lakes. etc.). All of course very accurate
so if you fly VFR you can follow the roads to your destination.

But what I like... is for larger cities (100,000 + population I think) they
make it look like a city. Commercial and industrial areas. High density
residential areas. Parking lots. University grounds. If you are low
enough... cemeteries. Rail yards.

Almost looks like you are doing the traffic report. I guess if you fly the
big iron at 30,000 feet you would only appreciate this stuff when landing.

It is probably the most major add on a person could get. My opinion of
course but I would have few arguments from folks who fly VFR.

You can view a advertisement for it here (the USA version, they have Canada,
Europe also)...
http://www.scenerysolutions.com/ut_fsx_usa.html
for whatever reason the call it a slideshow.

 

[Carl]

http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/review/fsg/fsg.htm

 

[Carl]

A better article about FS Global is here:

http://www.flightsimx.co.uk/reviews/fs-global-x-2008-review/