Firefox info

[Mike Hall - MS MVP]

Some interesting reading here for those who blindly assume that Firefox is
safer than IE7..

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=461

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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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[Alias]

Some interesting reading here for those who blindly assume that Firefox
is safer than IE7..

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=461

It helps if you use Fire Fox on a Linux box instead of Windows. If you
really want to be safe, surf using a Live CD without installing it. This
and MS' licensing/activation scam are some of the reasons people are
leaving Windows for alternatives. The fall of Rome while Ballmer dancing
a jig on stage (he can't play a fiddle).

Alias

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP]

And how convenient is using a live CD.. you are joking, of course..

It helps if you use Fire Fox on a Linux box instead of Windows. If you
really want to be safe, surf using a Live CD without installing it. This
and MS' licensing/activation scam are some of the reasons people are
leaving Windows for alternatives. The fall of Rome while Ballmer dancing a
jig on stage (he can't play a fiddle).

Alias

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[Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]]

Based on my experiences, FF is just way more faster than IE7. FF loads Live
Mail way faster along with the many websites I visit. The IE team needs to
do something about the AntiPhising filter, it really has taken a toll on IE
7's performance.

 

[Alias]

And how convenient is using a live CD.. you are joking, of course..

Let's see. Push button on the CD ROM. Insert CD, reboot, hit the
appropriate key to boot from the CD. Maybe it takes a minute or two
longer to load than XP. BFD. Of course, this is a bit drastic and I
would only recommend it if you plan to be in a dodgy web environment.
Having Linux installed is quicker and safer than Windows, I agree.

Alias

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP]

I turned the phishing filter off..

Based on my experiences, FF is just way more faster than IE7. FF loads
Live Mail way faster along with the many websites I visit. The IE team
needs to do something about the AntiPhising filter, it really has taken a
toll on IE 7's performance.
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[Bill]

I don't think it is so much a problem with Firefox, as it is the
operating system that it is running on. I don't use my Windows XP
virtual machine for browsing. I do all my browsing in Linux. According
to
www.stopbadware.org
there are now over 38000 websites that spread windows spyware, malware,
and viruses. The operative word here is windows. Some of these sites
were hacked by crime syndicates. It is best to use Google for your
searches, since they now warn you, if a site is on the badware list.
Vista is supposed to be more secure, but in the end it is still Windows,
built on a flawed security model with add-on security modules. Other
operating systems are intrinsically secure by design. It has nothing to
do with the popularity of an operating system. So whether you are using
Firefox or IE 7.0 on Windows, you are just riding in different seats in a
train that is careening off of a cliff.

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP]

Alias

How is Ubuntu at running CFS3..

Let's see. Push button on the CD ROM. Insert CD, reboot, hit the
appropriate key to boot from the CD. Maybe it takes a minute or two longer
to load than XP. BFD. Of course, this is a bit drastic and I would only
recommend it if you plan to be in a dodgy web environment. Having Linux
installed is quicker and safer than Windows, I agree.

Alias

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[Dustin Harper]

You should try Opera. It's faster than Firefox. It does have some issues
with some sites (Flash doesn't work right, and some CSS), but every release
is better. But, its fast!

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[Mike Hall - MS MVP]

Alias

That is a long winded way to surf, and requires changing of the boot order
each time.. as I have never had a a problem with IE, I think that I will
stick with the OS that does ALL that I ask of it..

However, it was interesting that you reckon the only way to use Firefox
safely is from an Ubuntu Live CD.. I will remember that..

Let's see. Push button on the CD ROM. Insert CD, reboot, hit the
appropriate key to boot from the CD. Maybe it takes a minute or two longer
to load than XP. BFD. Of course, this is a bit drastic and I would only
recommend it if you plan to be in a dodgy web environment. Having Linux
installed is quicker and safer than Windows, I agree.

Alias

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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Bill]

I agree with Alias on this one. It only takes a couple of minutes to run
a live cd. If you insist on using Windows, why subject it to unnecessary
risk. Run your live cd, browse your websites, and restart the computer
when done. The live cd that I used, ejects the cd when you reboot.
PCLINUXOS has built-in java and flash, so even your you tube and pogo
will work. Everything is done in memory, so once you reboot, it is gone.

 

[Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]]

Maybe I should use Opera, Live Mail has so many Flash ads, I'm begining to
wonder if they want the service to OD on it.

 

[Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]]

Doesn't that defeat the security mantra MS has been preaching for years?

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP]

So Firefox isn't any safer then unless I run it in an OS that does not cater
for all of my needs? Interesting..

I don't think it is so much a problem with Firefox, as it is the
operating system that it is running on. I don't use my Windows XP
virtual machine for browsing. I do all my browsing in Linux. According
to
www.stopbadware.org
there are now over 38000 websites that spread windows spyware, malware,
and viruses. The operative word here is windows. Some of these sites
were hacked by crime syndicates. It is best to use Google for your
searches, since they now warn you, if a site is on the badware list.
Vista is supposed to be more secure, but in the end it is still Windows,
built on a flawed security model with add-on security modules. Other
operating systems are intrinsically secure by design. It has nothing to
do with the popularity of an operating system. So whether you are using
Firefox or IE 7.0 on Windows, you are just riding in different seats in a
train that is careening off of a cliff.

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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[NoStop]

Some interesting reading here for those who blindly assume that Firefox is
safer than IE7..

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=461

I guess it's difficult making a silk purse from a sow's ear. The underlying
problem with both browsers is the fact they run on Windoze. Run Firefox on
GNU/Linux and the user doesn't have to worry about this horseshit.

Really, let's face it. Open source applications like Firefox that get ported
to run on Windoze is only done to show Windoze users that open source can
provide great applications. Once end-users realize this, they aren't that
scared of moving to an open source operating system. I'm guessing that the
Firefox developers have more important things on their plates than trying
to accomodate Vista's protected mode bullshit at this time.

Cheers.


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[Bill]

I didnt see it listed in the Cedega data base. You can always dual boot
and use windows for what it does best, playing games...and linux for
Internet access.

 

[NoStop]

Alias

How is Ubuntu at running CFS3..

One probably needs a toy operating system from MickeyMouse to run children's
games.

Cheers.


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[Bill]

Mike:
Feel free. Keep running IE 7.0 in Vista. Keep using Windows Live for
your search engine. It is only a matter of time, before you hit one of
those 38000 sites. It is a little like playing Russian Roulette but with
a lot more chambers. Become one of those 150,000,000 bots in a bot
farm. Organized crime will love you, as they rope your machine in. You
will never know, except you might run a little slower. Microsoft has
already reduced the control you have over your machine, what is a little
less control? You will be supporting that mighty spam engine, as it
spews out more sewage. (I was trying to see how many s's i could get in
that sentence.)

 

[Frank]

Bill wrote:
....I do all my browsing in Linux....

That's funny (snort, snicker), says you believe everything you read. LOL!
Well, I guess most who frequent trash dot do, right?
Frank

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP]

Bill

I don't use Windows Live for searches, and I have yet to be compromised by
anything.. the simple truth is that all access to the internet has its
dangers.. for the most part, it is the user who lets the crap in, regardless
of browser..

Mike:
Feel free. Keep running IE 7.0 in Vista. Keep using Windows Live for
your search engine. It is only a matter of time, before you hit one of
those 38000 sites. It is a little like playing Russian Roulette but with
a lot more chambers. Become one of those 150,000,000 bots in a bot
farm. Organized crime will love you, as they rope your machine in. You
will never know, except you might run a little slower. Microsoft has
already reduced the control you have over your machine, what is a little
less control? You will be supporting that mighty spam engine, as it
spews out more sewage. (I was trying to see how many s's i could get in
that sentence.)

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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/