Files and Settings Transfer Wizard and different username.

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Guest

Hi,
Can I use FaSTW to transfer data(and settings) from an old workgroup PC to a
new one joined to a domain with a different username? Will it tranfer all
Outlook settings(POP3 account saved passwords, archiving settings etc.)?

Did anyone try it?

Thanks,
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Luke said:
Hi,
Can I use FaSTW to transfer data(and settings) from an old
workgroup PC to a new one joined to a domain with a different
username? Will it tranfer all Outlook settings(POP3 account saved
passwords, archiving settings etc.)?

Did anyone try it?

Why not just try it?
It really does not care too much about the username.

As far as 'all Outlook settings' - that's left so open - there is no way of
telling you - and even if you closed some of the doors - there's likely no
way of telling you 'for sure'. F.A.S.T. does transfer settings for Office
products. It will grab the PSTs and OSTs and NK2 files... What *version*
of Outlook are you utilizing? What OS (SP level, etc) are you moving from?
Moving to?

In any case - I suggest you utilize the same F.A.S.T. wizard in both cases
(for example - run it from the same CD each time) - this can simplify things
for you.
 
G

Guest

Shenan Stanley said:
Why not just try it?

What if it works 9 times out of 10? I don't want to look incompetent in
front of my users.
It really does not care too much about the username.

What about SID? Or anything else that changes with usernames? I'm asking
because I've had Outlook forget saved POP3 password when I've made a copy of
user's profile, joined a domain and pointed the profile image path to the new
location. If it can forget saved password when I copy the profile and use it
as somebody else on the same machine how can I be sure it will not alter
other settings? That's why I'm looking for an alternative to copying
profiles, hopefully, one that would be aware of how Office stores it's
settings internally and capable of adjusting them for new enviroment. I was
hoping F.A.S.T might be what I'm looking for.
As far as 'all Outlook settings' - that's left so open - there is no way of
telling you - and even if you closed some of the doors - there's likely no
way of telling you 'for sure'.

Why? It's a microsoft product. I would expect the F.A.S.T development team
to have full access to documentation of how Office stores _all_ its settings
and to be able to migrate all of them. Sure, It's not possible to know if it
will transfer all settings of third party products, but as long as MS
products are concerned it should do it's job. That's how I undersand it, am
I mistaken? I'm asking because I don't want to find out "the hard way".
F.A.S.T. does transfer settings for Office
products. It will grab the PSTs and OSTs and NK2 files... What *version*
of Outlook are you utilizing? What OS (SP level, etc) are you moving from?
Moving to?

In any case - I suggest you utilize the same F.A.S.T. wizard in both cases
(for example - run it from the same CD each time) - this can simplify things
for you.

I intended to save settings using F.A.S.T on machine with Windows XP SP1 and
Office 2000 or XP (it's a mixed network) and restore it on a new machine with
fresh install of Windows XP SP2(using the wizard version from WinXP SP1 CD)
joined to a domain and installed with a matching copy of Office, then I would
upgrade Office to 2003.

Unfortunately my users are not very computer literate and I have to keep
everything working _exactly_ the same(if possible) when I'm installing a new
SBS2003 domain and replacing their PCs with a new ones. I usually spend a lot
of time (sometimes even an hour per PC) to: catch POP3 password's with a
network sniffer, extract ie saved passwords from registry, copy the profile,
tweak any settings, views etc. that were not copied properly. It would save
me a lot of time if this tool was inteligent enough to do the job, but I
can't use my users as guinea pigs so I'm asking here.

Thanks for the quick reply,
 
R

Ron Martell

Luke said:
What if it works 9 times out of 10? I don't want to look incompetent in
front of my users.

Now you are talking about a different situation. Previously you
asked about "....from an old workgroup PC to a new one joined to a
domain..." implying that there was just a single PC involved. For
large numbers of computers you should consider using the "User State
Migration Tool" See
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=321197

What about SID? Or anything else that changes with usernames? I'm asking
because I've had Outlook forget saved POP3 password when I've made a copy of
user's profile, joined a domain and pointed the profile image path to the new
location. If it can forget saved password when I copy the profile and use it
as somebody else on the same machine how can I be sure it will not alter
other settings? That's why I'm looking for an alternative to copying
profiles, hopefully, one that would be aware of how Office stores it's
settings internally and capable of adjusting them for new enviroment. I was
hoping F.A.S.T might be what I'm looking for.

FASTW does not transfer passwords. Period. This is by design and is
considered an important security feature.

In order to transfer Outlook or Outlook Express passwords you will
have to create an IAF file for each email account on each machine and
then import these files to the new machines.


For more information on using FASTW see the article by MVP Gary
Woodruff at http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/fast.htm

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
G

Guest

Ron Martell said:
Now you are talking about a different situation. Previously you
asked about "....from an old workgroup PC to a new one joined to a
domain..." implying that there was just a single PC involved. For
large numbers of computers you should consider using the "User State
Migration Tool" See
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=321197

From what I've gathered both of those tools work in a similar manner. The
most important difference is that in USMT you have more control over what's
being transferred and FSTW transfers a predefined set of things. From the
point of view of the reliability of the process it doesn't really matter
which I use as long as I choose to transfer the same set of data and settings.

Did anyone actually use any of those tools in a manner described above(in
reply to Shenan Stanley's post) on a number of machines? I'm only asking
about a number of machines(let's say 30) to assess the reliability of the
tools. I don't really need to transfer 30 machines across, but I'm not wiling
to accept a 10% risk of failure while moving a single one. If there is such a
risk I'll just have to keep doing it manually and wasting time I'm afraid.
FASTW does not transfer passwords. Period. This is by design and is
considered an important security feature.

In order to transfer Outlook or Outlook Express passwords you will
have to create an IAF file for each email account on each machine and
then import these files to the new machines.

OK if its just passwords I can live without transferring them, I just need
to know if all other Office settings, are transferred. I've also looked up
IAF file creation, but looks like the export feature for IAF files is no
longer supported since Outlook 2002.
For more information on using FASTW see the article by MVP Gary
Woodruff at http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/fast.htm

Good luck

Thanks for help,
 

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