Chuck said:
Chuck wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:23:06 -0400, lurcer
Chuck wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2006 13:09:29 GMT, lurker
<"[remove]king-daddy"@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Consider a home network with two PCs connected to a linksys router.
1) Windows XP Home and
2) Windows 2000 PRO
Both have been updated with all critical updates.
All has been well for several months. On Windows XP I use
Quicken and FrontPage 2000 with their data files on Windows 2000
File Shares.
Several (many?) weeks ago, I would go to bed with all working,
and the next morning, the Windows XP machine could no longer use
(or create new) shares.
After many frustrating weeks, I have observed the network
connection fails at any time of day, even if in use. There are
no entries in either system's Event Viewer.
Ping between the two machines works in both directions.
Net use from Windows 2000 to Windows XP works fine. It does not
work for XP => 2000. Net use produces error message
System Error 53. Network not found.
Rebooting the Windows 2000 machine fixes the problem.
I am looking for suggestions on what tools, procedures to use to
troubleshoot the problem.
King-daddy
The next time you observe the problem, look at "browstat status",
"ipconfig
/all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from
each computer.
Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely
(download browstat!):
<
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
Look at each computer, and the power setting on the network adapter.
<
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html
Don't be confused by two different user names. my regular
earthlink.net mirror is down now and I am a different name on that
one.
I am enjoying learning so much useful information from your very
fine references. Well done!
Neither computer adapter has a power setting.
I no longer am using DHCP (simplifies debug)
I have been through two failures since starting this thread, but
have not saved the data that I observed. I am doing that now.
My current debug posture is that the problem is NOT a Computer
Browser issue. I lament that I cannot find any logs or event
viewer that have an exception posted. PING in both directions
never breaks.
I have seen two things cause the error code 53 (after the failure
has occurred.
1) "Network not found" meaning the XP system no longer can find the
Windows 2000 system it was just talking to.
2) Can't remote access the registry (by BROWSTAT)
LSP is not corrupted.
I will post more as I collect the data.
king-daddy
Thanks for the note about the user name bit. I now presume that you
are
"lurker", "lurcer", and "clackey". And you always sign, internally, as
"king-daddy"?
I don't think that the original problem is browser related. That
won't prevent
the browser diagnostics from helping us though. But you'll need to
run all
diagnostics on each computer, for it to be truly useful.
The "Can't remote access the registry" bit is normal for XP Home.
<
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html#Error53>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html#Error53
This type of investigation is typical detective work - a lot of
duplicated
effort, and combing thru clues. But since you don't know what the
problem is,
you don't know which clues are essential, so gather all of them please.
DHCP not used. Fixed IP is used
Firewall is shut down on the Windows 2000 machine (Kerio)
Firewall on Windows XP HOME is "Windows Live OneCare"
<SNIP>
Well, no problems at all are apparent there.
# Both computers on same physical subnet, 192.168.1.0/24.
# Both computers using compatible name resolution (Node types
Broadcast and
Unknown are fine).
# Both computers in same domain / workgroup Kingdom, with same master
browser
Queenie.
Now, since Queenie is the master browser, you'll not see an "error =
53" in
browstat when accessing the registry. If you're seeing an "error =
53" when the
problem occurs, then King-Daddy is probably electing itself the master
browser.
Is NetBT explicitly Enabled on both computers?
<
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
Let's try and enumerate the symptoms methodically.
Take the following code (everything INSIDE the "#####" lines). Please
DO NOT
include ANY portion of the "#####" lines. (Please verify computer
names and ip
addresses).
1. Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked.
Highlight
then Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is presented, and Paste
(Ctrl-V)
into Notepad. Verify, and correct, names and addresses if necessary.
2. Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into
the root
folder "C:\".
3. Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
4. Wait patiently.
5. When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check
Format and
ensure that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents
(Ctrl-A
Ctrl-C) and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.
Do this from both computers, please, with both computers powered up
and online.
Do this both when there is no problem (as a baseline), then later
repeat when
there is a problem. Post logs as soon as any are available.
##### Start CDiag Assembled Code
@echo off
set FullTarget1=KING-DADDY 192.168.1.51
set FullTarget2=QUEENIE 192.168.1.52
set FullTarget3=
set FullTarget4=
set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
set FullTargets=%FullTargets% 127.0.0.1
set PingTargets=
www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.1
Set Version=V1.40
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Over All Analysis >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Enumerate Shares >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net share >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Adhoc Browser View >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets Analysis %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets Analysis %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF
##### End CDiag Assembled Code
CDiagnosis V1.40
Start diagnosis for KING-DADDY
Full Targets KING-DADDY 192.168.1.51 QUEENIE 192.168.1.52 127.0.0.1
Ping Targets
www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.1
Over All Analysis
Enumerate Shares
Share name Resource Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers
IPC$ Remote IPC
debug J:\clackey\debug
downloads I:\downloads
SharedDocs C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS.WINDOWS\DOCUMENTS
TOOLS J:\TOOLS
clackey LPT1: Spooled Laser Printer
Color Printer
USB001 Spooled Canon S800
The command completed successfully.
Adhoc Browser View
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\KING-DADDY king-daddy 51
\\QUEENIE
The command completed successfully.
Full Targets Analysis KING-DADDY 192.168.1.51 QUEENIE 192.168.1.52
127.0.0.1
Target KING-DADDY
"KING-DADDY ping KING-DADDY"
Pinging KING-DADDY [192.168.1.51] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.51:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"KING-DADDY net view KING-DADDY"
Shared resources at KING-DADDY
king-daddy 51
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
clackey Print Laser Printer
Color Printer Print Canon S800
debug Disk
downloads Disk
SharedDocs Disk
TOOLS Disk
The command completed successfully.
Target 192.168.1.51
"KING-DADDY ping 192.168.1.51"
Pinging 192.168.1.51 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.51:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"KING-DADDY net view 192.168.1.51"
Shared resources at 192.168.1.51
king-daddy 51
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
clackey Print Laser Printer
Color Printer Print Canon S800
debug Disk
downloads Disk
SharedDocs Disk
TOOLS Disk
The command completed successfully.
Target QUEENIE
"KING-DADDY ping QUEENIE"
Pinging QUEENIE [192.168.1.52] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.52:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"KING-DADDY net view QUEENIE"
Shared resources at QUEENIE
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BrotherH Print Brother HL-1440 Dolphin
desktop Disk
downloads Disk
joint Disk X:
mine Disk Dolphind Drive D
PCService Disk
Shared Disk Z: shared files
TOOLS Disk W: Dolphin Tools folder
The command completed successfully.
Target 192.168.1.52
"KING-DADDY ping 192.168.1.52"
Pinging 192.168.1.52 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.52:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"KING-DADDY net view 192.168.1.52"
Shared resources at 192.168.1.52
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BrotherH Print Brother HL-1440 Dolphin
desktop Disk
downloads Disk
joint Disk
mine Disk Dolphind Drive D
PCService Disk
Shared Disk shared files
TOOLS Disk Dolphin Tools folder
The command completed successfully.
Target 127.0.0.1
"KING-DADDY ping 127.0.0.1"
Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"KING-DADDY net view 127.0.0.1"
Shared resources at 127.0.0.1
king-daddy 51
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
clackey Print Laser Printer
Color Printer Print Canon S800
debug Disk
downloads Disk
SharedDocs Disk
TOOLS Disk
The command completed successfully.
Ping Targets Analysis
www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.1
Target
www.yahoo.com
"KING-DADDY ping
www.yahoo.com"
Pinging
www.yahoo.akadns.net [68.142.226.51] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 68.142.226.51: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=50
Reply from 68.142.226.51: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=50
Reply from 68.142.226.51: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=50
Reply from 68.142.226.51: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=50
Ping statistics for 68.142.226.51:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 26ms
Target 66.94.230.32
"KING-DADDY ping 66.94.230.32"
Pinging 66.94.230.32 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=46
Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=46
Ping statistics for 66.94.230.32:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 105ms, Maximum = 109ms, Average = 106ms
Target 192.168.1.1
"KING-DADDY ping 192.168.1.1"
Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms
End diagnosis for KING-DADDY
======================================
CDiagnosis V1.40
Start diagnosis for QUEENIE
Full Targets KING-DADDY 192.168.1.51 QUEENIE 192.168.1.52 127.0.0.1
Ping Targets
www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.1
Over All Analysis
Enumerate Shares
Share name Resource Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C$ C:\ Default share
H$ H:\ Default share
IPC$ Remote IPC
D$ D:\ Default share
print$ C:\WINNT\system32\spool\drivers Printer Drivers
ADMIN$ C:\WINNT Remote Admin
E$ E:\ Default share
desktop D:\desktop
downloads E:\downloads
joint D:\QUICKEN\joint
mine D:\ Dolphind Drive D
PCService D:\QUICKEN\PCService
Shared D:\Shared shared files
TOOLS D:\TOOLS Dolphin Tools folder
BrotherH USB001 Spooled Brother HL-1440 Dolphin
The command completed successfully.
Adhoc Browser View
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\KING-DADDY king-daddy 51
\\QUEENIE
The command completed successfully.
Full Targets Analysis KING-DADDY 192.168.1.51 QUEENIE 192.168.1.52
127.0.0.1
Target KING-DADDY
"QUEENIE ping KING-DADDY"
Pinging KING-DADDY [192.168.1.51] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.51:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"QUEENIE net view KING-DADDY"
Shared resources at KING-DADDY
king-daddy 51
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
clackey Print Laser Printer
Color Printer
Print Canon S800
debug Disk
downloads Disk
SharedDocs Disk
TOOLS Disk
The command completed successfull
Target 192.168.1.51
"QUEENIE ping 192.168.1.51"
Pinging 192.168.1.51 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.51: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.51:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"QUEENIE net view 192.168.1.51"
Shared resources at 192.168.1.51
king-daddy 51
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
clackey Print Laser Printer
Color Printer
Print Canon S800
debug Disk
downloads Disk
SharedDocs Disk
TOOLS Disk
The command completed successfully.
Target QUEENIE
"QUEENIE ping QUEENIE"
Pinging QUEENIE [192.168.1.52] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.52:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"QUEENIE net view QUEENIE"
Shared resources at QUEENIE
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BrotherH Print Brother HL-1440 Dolphin
desktop Disk
downloads Disk
joint Disk
mine Disk Dolphind Drive D
PCService Disk
Shared Disk shared files
TOOLS Disk Dolphin Tools folder
The command completed successfully.
Target 192.168.1.52
"QUEENIE ping 192.168.1.52"
Pinging 192.168.1.52 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.52: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.52:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"QUEENIE net view 192.168.1.52"
Shared resources at 192.168.1.52
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BrotherH Print Brother HL-1440 Dolphin
desktop Disk
downloads Disk
joint Disk
mine Disk Dolphind Drive D
PCService Disk
Shared Disk shared files
TOOLS Disk Dolphin Tools folder
The command completed successfully.
Target 127.0.0.1
"QUEENIE ping 127.0.0.1"
Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
"QUEENIE net view 127.0.0.1"
Shared resources at 127.0.0.1
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BrotherH Print Brother HL-1440 Dolphin
desktop Disk
downloads Disk
joint Disk
mine Disk Dolphind Drive D
PCService Disk
Shared Disk shared files
TOOLS Disk Dolphin Tools folder
The command completed successfully.
Ping Targets Analysis
www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.1
Target
www.yahoo.com
"QUEENIE ping
www.yahoo.com"
Pinging
www.yahoo.akadns.net [68.142.226.39] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 68.142.226.39: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=50
Reply from 68.142.226.39: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=49
Reply from 68.142.226.39: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=49
Reply from 68.142.226.39: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=50
Ping statistics for 68.142.226.39:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 23ms
Target 66.94.230.32
"QUEENIE ping 66.94.230.32"
Pinging 66.94.230.32 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=46
Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=124ms TTL=47
Ping statistics for 66.94.230.32:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 105ms, Maximum = 124ms, Average = 110ms
Target 192.168.1.1
"QUEENIE ping 192.168.1.1"
Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 0ms
End diagnosis for QUEENIE
