Fiery Printing Via TCP/IP

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Ben Blackmore

Hi,

I'm trying to print to a Fiery Pi6200, connected to a Di520 copier. I want
to be able to setup a printserver (win2000 server) to print to it via IP
address. However I'm not to sure what the port name is or if I should be
using LPR or RAW.

When installing I do, add printer > local port > create new port > standard
tcp/ip > then it asks for the name or ip address of the printer, so I type
in 10.36.1.10, and it automatically files in the port name, however I have
tried changing it to Direct, or Print, also someone suggested print_copier1
(port_device name), so I tried that. However it still comes up with an
error. I've tried printing via RAW on port 9100 and LPR then adding the que
name print, direct, print_copier1, but still no success!

Can anyone suggest how I should be printing to it?

Cheers

Ben
 
W

WC

I have several Fiery controllers and the easiest way is
TCP/IP port, put in IP and it will automatically generate
port name: IP_10.36.1.10, do not change this or add
anything that is all it needs. You will need to have right
drive of course. If you use LPR use IP: 10.36.1.10 and for
Port Name use print.
Most controllers have a Web interface and some with a self
install utility, just plug the IP into your browser and
see if that option exists.
WC
 
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Ben Blackmore

Great thanks, I'll try the web interface, I don't think its enabled on 2 of
the fiery's, but the others might be enabled!
Ben
 
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Slambram

Hi,

I'm trying to print to a Fiery Pi6200, connected to a Di520 copier. I want
to be able to setup a printserver (win2000 server) to print to it via IP
address. However I'm not to sure what the port name is or if I should be
using LPR or RAW.

When installing I do, add printer > local port > create new port > standard
tcp/ip > then it asks for the name or ip address of the printer, so I type
in 10.36.1.10, and it automatically files in the port name, however I have
tried changing it to Direct, or Print, also someone suggested print_copier1
(port_device name), so I tried that. However it still comes up with an
error. I've tried printing via RAW on port 9100 and LPR then adding the que
name print, direct, print_copier1, but still no success!

Can anyone suggest how I should be printing to it?

Cheers

Ben

Try queue name "normalq" or "urgentq"
 
B

Ben Blackmore

Hi,

I finally got this working, thought I would post the solution here incase
anyone else wants it in the future!

In Windows 2000 do

Start > Settings > Printers > Add Printer > Next > Local Port (uncheck auto
detect & install) > Next > Create new port > Standard tcp/ip port > This
will open another promt up, click next > Enter printer name or IP address >
In the port name call it direct or print (or name of your que) > Next > On
the next screen it will ask for device type, don't select standard, select
custom then click settings > Select LPR as the protocol, print or direct as
the que name (or your que name) and enable LPR byte counting, click ok >
Next > Finish

Hope this helps other people who had my problem.

Cheers

Ben
 
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Elmo P. Shagnasty

Ben Blackmore said:
In Windows 2000 do

Start > Settings > Printers > Add Printer > Next > Local Port (uncheck auto
detect & install) > Next > Create new port > Standard tcp/ip port > This
will open another promt up, click next > Enter printer name or IP address >
In the port name call it direct or print (or name of your que) > Next > On
the next screen it will ask for device type, don't select standard, select
custom then click settings > Select LPR as the protocol, print or direct as
the que name (or your que name) and enable LPR byte counting, click ok >
Next > Finish

never, ever, EVER use the Microsoft Standard TCP/IP port. It's not
standard at all; in fact, if you look into it you'll see that Microsoft,
in their knowledge base, acknowledges that. They document that it's
meant to be a replacement for the HP Port Monitor.

The only *standard* LPR is LPR that follows RFC 1179. Starting with
Windows 2000, Microsoft tries to hide the LPR port option by not
installing it as a standard part of Windows. You have to go to
add/remove software, Windows components, and add "other file/print
services--Unix print services".

Once you've done that, when you go to "create new port" you'll see a new
option: LPR port. Use THAT. Whatever you do, don't use the Standard
Microsoft TCP/IP port. (For one thing, it's HORRENDOUSLY slow. For
another, nobody supports it; they'll all say to use standard LPR.)

The LPR port takes two arguments, because LPR is simple: what's the IP
address of the machine running the companion LPD service, and what's the
queue name that's shared out on that machine. For the Fiery, there are
two hard-coded built in queues: print and hold. Both lowercase.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324078&Product=wi
n2000

BTW, when you install the Unix printing service you also automatically
add the LPD service; this allows Unix boxes or anyone else doing LPR to
use that LPR to print to your shared printers on the Windows box.

For Macintosh OS 10.2 or later, the same thing applies. Add Printer,
and use the drop-down menu to choose IP Printing. Enter in the IP
address, and uncheck the "use default queue name" box. Enter the queue
name, either print or hold. Then choose the PPD. Voila. You will
probably have to go back into the printer to configure it for whatever
hardware/software options are installed on the printer (paper trays,
finishers, etc.) 10.1 didn't have the ability to do this part.

Or, under OS 10, use AppleTalk.

OS 9 can set up a desktop printer the exact same way, using LPR
printing. Or you can print via AppleTalk.
 
B

Ben Blackmore

Really? Sod it, I just set up 30 printers on our printserver, some printing
direct to printers with built in network, like the kyocera fs-1010t, and
some to printers attached to an intel netport printserver, then some fiery
boxes.
Bloody annoying of MS to hide all these settings, and not install them!
Do you have anymore info on the Pro's/Con's of printing with each, like a
web site or anything?
How do you setup printers without a que? I.e. IBM info 12, I have it setup
10.36.2.12 port number 9100, what would be the que name?
Cheers
Ben
 
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Elmo P. Shagnasty

Ben Blackmore said:
How do you setup printers without a que? I.e. IBM info 12, I have it setup
10.36.2.12 port number 9100, what would be the que name?

Port 9100 printing is a bit different. It's not LPR, and each device
will handle it a bit differently. LPR is a standard, and every device
will do it the same way by definition.


Do you have anymore info on the Pro's/Con's of printing with each, like a
web site or anything?

Not offhand, sorry.
 

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