Fake eBay Powerseller scheme

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Guest

Agreed, I don't recall anything ever received from ebay that
required clicking-through any email links though it is a
good point you made about currrent aution status updates.
One can go to ebay through main 'site URL and log into their
account if/when necessary.

Rather than just deleting it, why not help ebay(and paypal) fight
phishing by forwarding it to (e-mail address removed) or (e-mail address removed) ...and
then delete it!
 
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Michael Swift

Rather than just deleting it, why not help ebay(and paypal) fight
phishing by forwarding it to (e-mail address removed) or (e-mail address removed) ...and
then delete it!

Do they actually do anything about it?, I've sent similar e-mails
complete with headers to my bank and they didn't even bother to send an
automated reply.

Mike
 
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DevilsPGD

In message <[email protected]> Michael Swift
Do they actually do anything about it?, I've sent similar e-mails
complete with headers to my bank and they didn't even bother to send an
automated reply.

Generally the reports are aggregated and used when lawsuits are being
considered.
 
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CBFalconer

Michael said:
(e-mail address removed) writes


Do they actually do anything about it?, I've sent similar e-mails
complete with headers to my bank and they didn't even bother to
send an automated reply.

ebay and paypal normally respond with confirmation that the 'thing'
did not originate from them. However, if you don't include full
headers when forwarding, it is rather useless to them.
 
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George Hester

They do. It normally takes about 24 hrs to remove the site but that depends on how well it is done. For example those that put the gif over the address bar are gone almost as soon as you tell them. Those that don't take up to 24 hrs. Trouble is many are in South East Asia where they use the language barrier to ignore the report. As for Banks. I don't know what it is with them. I receive auto repliers 4 months after I send them the phishing report. So I don't do it anymore.
 
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George Hester

Not really. All they are concerned about is the link in the phish. They do not have the resources to go after the e-mail server but they do have the resources to go after the Web Hoster. Which is what they do. The e-mail headers are unnecessary for that. In fact that is what I do. I figure out who is hosting the phish then if they have a 1-800 number I call them. Kilt a few that way.
 
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Clive

Michael Swift said:
You would have to be a bit thick to receive an e-mail saying your
account has been used illegally and could you please confirm your
passwords and Visa details,
I keep getting these and I have never had anything to do with ebay.
Naturally I give them all my details, J. Smith
Buckingham Palace
The Mall
London.
But they still come.
 
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I keep getting these and I have never had anything to do with ebay.
Naturally I give them all my details, J. Smith
Buckingham Palace
The Mall
London.

You are Prince Charles AICMFP.
Who else would be stupid enough to post their address on usenet?
 
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Michael C

Michael Swift said:
Anything from ebay I've had has been relevant to a purchase so contained
details I would not expect a con merchant to know.

It wouldn't be too hard for them to gain some information and post a
reasonably authentic looking message. All I'm saying is the ones I've
received have been extrememly unprofessional and very obvious and it
wouldn't bee too difficult to create something that looked a bit more
authentic that trapped a lot more people.

Michael
 
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Michael Swift

Michael C said:
It wouldn't be too hard for them to gain some information and post a
reasonably authentic looking message. All I'm saying is the ones I've
received have been extrememly unprofessional and very obvious and it
wouldn't bee too difficult to create something that looked a bit more
authentic that trapped a lot more people.

Fair comment, but then I'm super cynical.

Mike
 
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ric

Fair comment, but then I'm super cynical.

I just got a PayPal phishing email. I clicked on that URL, and opened
up the real PayPal site in another window. The two were quite the
same, except:

1) The authentic site had the gold lock in the toolbar *with*
authentication.
2) The phishing site had a *long* URL, with a foreign source.
3) The authentic site was copyright 2005, the fake site 2004.
4) The fake sight was missing some of the antifraud links that were
present on the authentic site.
5) Slight font differences.

All said, not too bad.
 
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CBFalconer

ric said:
I just got a PayPal phishing email. I clicked on that URL, and
opened up the real PayPal site in another window. The two were
quite the same, except:

1) The authentic site had the gold lock in the toolbar *with*
authentication.
2) The phishing site had a *long* URL, with a foreign source.
3) The authentic site was copyright 2005, the fake site 2004.
4) The fake sight was missing some of the antifraud links that were
present on the authentic site.
5) Slight font differences.

Since you are using Outhouse Excess and thus probably IE with all
its built in insecurity I would be very nervous about what even
accessing that URL can do to you. At a minimum I hope you have
java and javascript turned off. I don't know if IE can inhibit
downloading images, or restrict them to the actual URL. Similarly
for cookies. You really should get firefox from mozilla.org.
 
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ric

Since you are using Outhouse Excess and thus probably IE with all
its built in insecurity I would be very nervous about what even
accessing that URL can do to you. At a minimum I hope you have
java and javascript turned off. I don't know if IE can inhibit
downloading images, or restrict them to the actual URL. Similarly
for cookies. You really should get firefox from mozilla.org.

Your assumption that I am using IE is quite faulty. I have been using
Firefox since version 0.9.1 was released. I was using T-bird as well,
but haven't set it up yet on this computer. OE version 6.0 ain't half
bad once you learn to deal with its shortcomings.
 
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Des

It's a scam. Never click on a link to eBay from your e-mail even those
which come from eBay. Doing so is a recipe for disaster.

--
George Hester
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Synapse Syndrome said:
I got this email purporting to come from eBay inviting me to become a
"Titanium Power Seller". I'll Forward it as the first reply to this. They
almost had me, had they not used the wrong font on their fake signing in
page. When I noticed that I realised that the address looked dodgy too.

ss.

Remember IASIAAS..... Its A Scam It's Allways A Scam

And the most important thing any email sent by Ebay will have a copy in 'my
messages' folder in 'My Ebay'


Des
 
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Michael C

ric said:
Your assumption that I am using IE is quite faulty. I have been using
Firefox since version 0.9.1 was released. I was using T-bird as well,
but haven't set it up yet on this computer. OE version 6.0 ain't half
bad once you learn to deal with its shortcomings.

If you click on a HTML message it will use IE to display it. Not that that's
a bad thing really, I've only ever used IE and OE and have never had a
virus. You just need to keep up with patches, which MS has made dead easy
now, and make sure you've got a router with NAT or a firewall installed.

Michael
 
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Michael C

It's a scam. Never click on a link to eBay from your e-mail even those
which come from eBay. Doing so is a recipe for disaster.

That would why the title of the thread had the word fake in it. :)

Michael
 
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ric

If you click on a HTML message it will use IE to display it. Not that
that's a bad thing really, I've only ever used IE and OE and have never
had a virus. You just need to keep up with patches, which MS has made dead
easy now, and make sure you've got a router with NAT or a firewall
installed.

You mean URL links in messages? I copy & paste those into Firefox.
 
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Michael C

ric said:
You mean URL links in messages? I copy & paste those into Firefox.

No, if someone has posted a message in html outlook express will show it using internet explorer inside the message window. Like this one.

Michael
 
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Jamie

it's called phishing and it has been frequent lately, ebay, banks etc don't
believe anything. use your reveal feature and you wil often see URL's that
are porn lol also don't use passwords and personal info.
 
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Michael C

Jamie said:
it's called phishing and it has been frequent lately, ebay, banks etc
don't believe anything. use your reveal feature and you wil often see
URL's that are porn lol also don't use passwords and personal info.

I think we're all aware of this, that's what this whole thread is about!

Michael
 

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