Event viewer

J

Jose

Great instructions, JD, and here's one typical 'event'.

Event Type:     Failure Audit
Event Source:   Security
Event Category: Policy Change
Event ID:       615
Date:           2/13/2010
Time:           6:38:44 AM
User:           NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE
Computer:       COMPAQ-2006
Description:
IPSec Services:         IPSec Services failed to get the complete
list of network interfaces on the machine. This can be a potential
security hazard to the machine since some of the network interfaces
may not get the protection as desired by the applied IPSec filters.
Please run IPSec monitor snap-in to further diagnose the problem.

That, of course, leads me to another place I've never been before...
IPSec monitor snap-in. And now.......??

Is there some reason you have your system configured to monitor and
audit and log security policy settings and changes?

That is what puts things in the Security log. Such settings do not
usually apply to "normal" home type users. Normally, this log is
empty, or has one entry in it - "The audit log was cleared ".

I dare say you are seeing a self inflicted wound.

Unless you are in an environment where you need to be extensively
auditing your Internet traffic, searching for network connectivity
issues, etc. you do not need to be monitoring these events. This 615
probably occurred when you booted your system before the IPSec service
started and was then followed by a successful 615.

If you don't know what these things mean or how to begin to interpret
them you should turn them all off since they slow your system down
with all the unnecessary activity logging. More logging is not always
good logging unless you are troubleshooting a problem.

If you don't know how to use the security auditing and IPSec tools and
don't need to know, turn off all that extra stuff you don't need and
your system will thank you for it by rewarding you with better
performance and fewer mysteries.

If you care to delve into all the settings, what they mean, how to
interpret them, etc. you should take a class, read a book, do some
Internet searching.
 
W

William B. Lurie

Jose said:
Is there some reason you have your system configured to monitor and
audit and log security policy settings and changes?

That is what puts things in the Security log. Such settings do not
usually apply to "normal" home type users. Normally, this log is
empty, or has one entry in it - "The audit log was cleared ".

I dare say you are seeing a self inflicted wound.

Unless you are in an environment where you need to be extensively
auditing your Internet traffic, searching for network connectivity
issues, etc. you do not need to be monitoring these events. This 615
probably occurred when you booted your system before the IPSec service
started and was then followed by a successful 615.

If you don't know what these things mean or how to begin to interpret
them you should turn them all off since they slow your system down
with all the unnecessary activity logging. More logging is not always
good logging unless you are troubleshooting a problem.

If you don't know how to use the security auditing and IPSec tools and
don't need to know, turn off all that extra stuff you don't need and
your system will thank you for it by rewarding you with better
performance and fewer mysteries.

If you care to delve into all the settings, what they mean, how to
interpret them, etc. you should take a class, read a book, do some
Internet searching.
You're right on all counts, Jose. I have not made any changes to my
system, it is a garden-variety HP off-the-shelf Home machine 2-odd
years old, and I assure you that I have done nothing voluntarily to
cause this behavior. With one possible exception, and I can turn that
off to try it......I installed Anti-Malware and maybe it has done these
wonderful "improvements" for me. I don't know (and don't want to know)
all about that IPSec stuff.
 
J

JD

Jose said:
Is there some reason you have your system configured to monitor and
audit and log security policy settings and changes?

That is what puts things in the Security log. Such settings do not
usually apply to "normal" home type users. Normally, this log is
empty, or has one entry in it - "The audit log was cleared ".

I dare say you are seeing a self inflicted wound.

Unless you are in an environment where you need to be extensively
auditing your Internet traffic, searching for network connectivity
issues, etc. you do not need to be monitoring these events. This 615
probably occurred when you booted your system before the IPSec service
started and was then followed by a successful 615.

If you don't know what these things mean or how to begin to interpret
them you should turn them all off since they slow your system down
with all the unnecessary activity logging. More logging is not always
good logging unless you are troubleshooting a problem.

If you don't know how to use the security auditing and IPSec tools and
don't need to know, turn off all that extra stuff you don't need and
your system will thank you for it by rewarding you with better
performance and fewer mysteries.

If you care to delve into all the settings, what they mean, how to
interpret them, etc. you should take a class, read a book, do some
Internet searching.

Thanks for a non-response. Which book would you suggest he read? Or how
does he turn off the security log? Oh wait though, I have 2,012 events
in my Security log and I've never turned it on. And not one of those
says "The audit log was cleared". I'm not being a smarty pants, I'm just
curious as to the explanation of your response.
 
V

VanguardLH

William said:
All of the old complaints about Norton and Symantec
taken into consideration, they have cleaned up their act
tremendously over the years, and are extremely helpful and
have kept my machines free of (most) intruders very well.
They do try to do too many things for me automatically,
but I have it tuned so that I am in control. This
automatic live update thing, I changed back to manual,
so I'm not going to shut them down.

You should still uninstall Norton (and disconnect your host from the
network) to clear the event logs and then check later if you are still
getting the same login or policy change failures. I haven't used anything
Norton for awhile but it could be that their firewall's HIPS (host intrusion
prevention system) which you see as their rules but includes heuristics is
causing the events.
 
J

Jose

Thanks for a non-response. Which book would you suggest he read? Or how
does he turn off the security log? Oh wait though, I have 2,012 events
in my Security log and I've never turned it on. And not one of those
says "The audit log was cleared". I'm not being a smarty pants, I'm just
curious as to the explanation of your response.

Yeah - maybe I was coming on too strong or rude. I now have a better
Security Event Log message for the future.

Here is what I have seen...

Sometimes people wonder why the Security log is empty and think it is
a problem that nothing is being logged. All the other logs have stuff
and know I want some security on my system so they read some, poke
around and end up turning on Security Auditing from Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, Local Security Policy.

Everything for Security Auditing is turned off by default with "No
Auditing", so sometimes the thought is that some kind of additional
security auditing must be a good thing either because they are having
some problem they can't figure out or maybe they are curious.
Security is good, therefore I will put some security on everything!

The logging goes on unnoticed, they may resolve whatever the original
problem was and sometime later they peek at the Security log and see
all the failure messages and wonder what is wrong with their system.
Failure messages must mean something is wrong!

Turn all that logging on and reboot your system and you will get a lot
of failure events. Now folks think they have an issue and things are
failing all over the place, but it is an understanding issue (usually)
or they forgot they turned on the logging and never turned it off.

Event Logs also do not accumulate forever, they wrap when they get
full. Full is defined in the Properties of the log and defaults to
512KB and 7 days after that, then old things get overwritten
(luckily). The logs are usually in the c:\windows\system32\config
folder where those registry files are. You know those files... the
event logs are there too. Maybe yours wrapped or was never cleared -
or both.

Excess logging slows things down (any logging slows things down).
Maybe not much for this stuff, but if something has to read/write or
to even check to see if it needs to or even consider it, it takes some
CPU time that I would rather be spent someplace else. If you are
"tuning up" a system for performance, you can turn all that extra junk
off unless you need it to troubleshoot a problem. If you turn it on,
turn it off when you are done if you remember.

There is a similar story with the Internet Explorer log - why is it
always empty and is that my IE problem? An empty IE log can't be good
if I'm having IE problems. I can tell you, mine is empty and it
better stay that way.

You can buy books on Amazon that discuss Windows security,
performance, forensic analysis, malware - there are even Dummies books
for these things.

Like I mentioned before, no event in the Event Log should defy
explanation. If you have things in your Security Event Log, most
certainly they are there for a reason and should be explainable. Some
people will say the security events can be ignored. Well, I want to
explain them, then maybe I'll decide to ignore them.

I generally only have the one security event noting that my log was
cleared and I don't even need to have that. I only keep it so I know
my Security Event Log is working. Sometimes I use the Security
logging for troubleshooting or understanding somebody else's problem,
but generally not - it is extra I/O I don't need.

I sometimes keep an unused entry in my msconfig Startup tab and a
unused non MS service - just so I know msconfig is working. Seeing
those empty tabs is a little creepy.
 
G

Gerry

Jose

All Success Audit (lots of them), no failures here!

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
J

Jose

Jose

All Success Audit (lots of them), no failures here!

--

Gerry
 ~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good for you!

Such was not the case for the OP.

Do you have success audits enabled?

If you don't know what they mean, post some up for interpretation if
you want, or post some anyway so I can add them to my list if I don't
have them already.

I find them all annoying in day to day activities.
 
P

Peter Foldes

Jose

It is enabled by default and it always was
Event Logs also do not accumulate forever, they wrap when they get
full. Full is defined in the Properties of the log and defaults to
512KB and 7 days after that, then old things get overwritten

Not so. By default the setting is {Overwrite events as needed } and the size before
that happens is 100MB. Log size by default is 16384kb which can be adjusted up or
down to your needs and that cancels out what you posted

My Audits size in the Event Viewer is 14MB and the Audits date back to Oct 2003
without any being overwritten. The Log file on the latter is sitting at 2MB and also
dates back to Oct 2003 without anything changed
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

Jose

All Success Audit (lots of them), no failures here!

--

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good for you!

Such was not the case for the OP.

Do you have success audits enabled?

If you don't know what they mean, post some up for interpretation if
you want, or post some anyway so I can add them to my list if I don't
have them already.

I find them all annoying in day to day activities.
 
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G

Gerry

Jose

Obviously the answer is Yes; otherwise there would not be any reports!
The computer has Windows XP Home Edition installed. I have never altered
the default with regard to Auditing Entries. I realise as a result of
Peter's response that I could and that the Security tabs can be
displayed if a default is changed.
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_security_tab.htm

What is the point in investigating a Success Audit? An Audit Failure
makes more sense because it is reporting some wrong. Understanding a
Failure could pinpoint what is causing a problem. I have seen Failures
in the past but not recently.
I find them all annoying in day to day activities.

Why so?


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Gerry

Peter

Why do you want "My Audits size in the Event Viewer is 14MB and the
Audits date back to Oct 2003". My view is that event logs more than 14
days old are of little value. Errors should be eliminated if they are
repeating and logs without errors are of no interest to me after 14
days.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
W

William B. Lurie

Jose said:
Is there some reason you have your system configured to monitor and
audit and log security policy settings and changes?

That is what puts things in the Security log. Such settings do not
usually apply to "normal" home type users. Normally, this log is
empty, or has one entry in it - "The audit log was cleared ".

I dare say you are seeing a self inflicted wound.

Unless you are in an environment where you need to be extensively
auditing your Internet traffic, searching for network connectivity
issues, etc. you do not need to be monitoring these events. This 615
probably occurred when you booted your system before the IPSec service
started and was then followed by a successful 615.

If you don't know what these things mean or how to begin to interpret
them you should turn them all off since they slow your system down
with all the unnecessary activity logging. More logging is not always
good logging unless you are troubleshooting a problem.

If you don't know how to use the security auditing and IPSec tools and
don't need to know, turn off all that extra stuff you don't need and
your system will thank you for it by rewarding you with better
performance and fewer mysteries.

If you care to delve into all the settings, what they mean, how to
interpret them, etc. you should take a class, read a book, do some
Internet searching.
**************************************************************
I'd like to reopen this informative discussion, and add
the details of three *events* which seem to be applicable
to my system's failing to go to hibernate, and sometimes
not even to Screen Saver (!). Any explanations will be
appreciated.
**********************************************************
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 2/15/2010
Time: 6:06:25 AM
User: N/A
Computer: COMPAQ-2006
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
ftsata2
KLIF

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
************************************************************
Event Type: Failure Audit
Event Source: Security
Event Category: Policy Change
Event ID: 615
Date: 2/13/2010
Time: 6:38:44 AM
User: NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE
Computer: COMPAQ-2006
Description:
IPSec Services: IPSec Services failed to get the complete
list of network interfaces on the machine. This can be a potential
security hazard to the machine since some of the network interfaces
may not get the protection as desired by the applied IPSec filters.
Please run IPSec monitor snap-in to further diagnose the problem.
*********************************************************************
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 2/15/2010
Time: 6:06:25 AM
User: N/A
Computer: COMPAQ-2006
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
ftsata2
KLIF

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
******************************************************
 
J

JD

William said:
SNIP <
**************************************************************
I'd like to reopen this informative discussion, and add
the details of three *events* which seem to be applicable
to my system's failing to go to hibernate, and sometimes
not even to Screen Saver (!). Any explanations will be
appreciated.
**********************************************************
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 2/15/2010
Time: 6:06:25 AM
User: N/A
Computer: COMPAQ-2006
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
ftsata2
KLIF

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
************************************************************
Event Type: Failure Audit
Event Source: Security
Event Category: Policy Change
Event ID: 615
Date: 2/13/2010
Time: 6:38:44 AM
User: NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE
Computer: COMPAQ-2006
Description:
IPSec Services: IPSec Services failed to get the complete
list of network interfaces on the machine. This can be a potential
security hazard to the machine since some of the network interfaces
may not get the protection as desired by the applied IPSec filters.
Please run IPSec monitor snap-in to further diagnose the problem.
*********************************************************************
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 2/15/2010
Time: 6:06:25 AM
User: N/A
Computer: COMPAQ-2006
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
ftsata2
KLIF

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
******************************************************

Did you make any changes to your computer around the same time you
noticed your problems?

I went to http://www.ask.com and entered the two programs that are not
loading:

ftsata2

http://www.file.net/process/ftsata2.sys.html

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service...47626+1266240824138+28353475&threadId=1163749

KLIF

http://www.file.net/process/klif.sys.html

Do you use any anti-malware or anti-spyware programs?
 
J

Jose

Jose


Obviously the answer is Yes; otherwise there would not be any reports!
The computer has Windows XP Home Edition installed. I have never altered
the default with regard to Auditing Entries. I realise as a result of
Peter's response that I could and that the Security tabs can be
displayed if a default is changed.http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_security_tab.htm

What is the point in investigating a Success Audit? An Audit Failure
makes more sense because it is reporting some wrong. Understanding a
Failure could pinpoint what is causing a problem. I have seen Failures
in the past but not recently.

If I am not looking into a problem, I will turn all that stuff off.
It is extra I/O I don't need and would rather my CPU time be spent
doing things I want. I find no use for the constant logging of
routine events. I don't look at my Event Log unless I am suspicious
of a problem which is almost never - or trying to help someone else
with their problem which is often. My event logs are no longer
intellectually stimulating.

If other folks want to log all that stuff, more power to 'em. I just
chose not to! It is also possible that with my tinkering over the
years my XP has been installed, I changed some of the Event Log
settings so they may not match yours. Maybe we are not even talking
about the same things anymore.

Okay - I don't to get bogged down with it and would rather move on.

The OP still does't seem to be able to hibernate reliably, his screen
saver doesn't work, he does not have SP3, has not said the hotfix to
fix hibernating for SP2 was installed, and has not described the SP3
anomalies.

I think I'll just watch that for a while!
 
W

William B. Lurie

JD said:
Did you make any changes to your computer around the same time you
noticed your problems?

I went to http://www.ask.com and entered the two programs that are not
loading:

ftsata2

http://www.file.net/process/ftsata2.sys.html

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service...47626+1266240824138+28353475&threadId=1163749


KLIF

http://www.file.net/process/klif.sys.html

Do you use any anti-malware or anti-spyware programs?
Yes, I have one anti-malware program installed but turned
it off two weeks ago when this ATI stuff started. msconfig has it not
loading on startup.
 

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