Europe 301... Clip on mydeo service

[PapaJohn]

I'm working on a newsletter about mydeo's streaming service, and testing if
and how well it handles stories made by PS3.... here's my test sample...
about 1-1/2 minutes:

http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=7064&CID=50254

mydeo recommends streaming files for broadband users to be in the 350 kpbs
ballpark, which makes them higher quality at 320x240 or lower at 640x480

This story is saved with a custom profile of high def resolution
at1280x720... its bitrate is 238 kbps, and 80% of it is for the audio
stream... only 49 kbps for the video.

I'd appreciate comments on well it plays at your end... thanks

 

[Yves Alarie]

Plays OK on my end.
I guess you had a great vacation. Nice to see you back.

 

[PapaJohn]

Hi Yves... another 'best ever' one... thanks

9,200 still pix and 20 hours of video footage to keep busy with.

 

[John Inzer]

I'm working on a newsletter about mydeo's streaming service, and
testing if and how well it handles stories made by PS3.... here's my
test sample... about 1-1/2 minutes:

http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=7064&CID=50254

mydeo recommends streaming files for broadband users to be in the 350
kpbs ballpark, which makes them higher quality at 320x240 or lower at
640x480
This story is saved with a custom profile of high def resolution
at1280x720... its bitrate is 238 kbps, and 80% of it is for the audio
stream... only 49 kbps for the video.

I'd appreciate comments on well it plays at your end... thanks

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Must be something in my security settings
but when I click a link like that WMP opens
and all I get is a dialog at the bottom of the
screen that says 'Connecting'. It never does
actually connect.

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[Yves Alarie]

Maybe it is. I tried the link again. Works fine on my end.

 

[John Inzer]

Maybe it is. I tried the link again. Works fine on my end.

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Ok...I changed a few things and discovered
the culprit was ZoneAlarm. What do you use
as a firewall?

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[John Inzer]

I'm working on a newsletter about mydeo's streaming service, and
testing if and how well it handles stories made by PS3.... here's my
test sample... about 1-1/2 minutes:

http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=7064&CID=50254

mydeo recommends streaming files for broadband users to be in the 350
kpbs ballpark, which makes them higher quality at 320x240 or lower at
640x480
This story is saved with a custom profile of high def resolution
at1280x720... its bitrate is 238 kbps, and 80% of it is for the audio
stream... only 49 kbps for the video.

I'd appreciate comments on well it plays at your end... thanks

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The video plays beautifully and is very
interesting to watch. The sound seems
to have problems.
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[Guest]

The audio is a mix from various camcorder audio clips, the first 20 seconds
being the noise of a waterfall... maybe it's not sounding like one when you
don't see it at the same time.

 

[John Inzer]

The audio is a mix from various camcorder audio clips, the first 20
seconds being the noise of a waterfall... maybe it's not sounding
like one when you don't see it at the same time.

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I guess it sounds like a water
fall, I thought it was static.

It would probably work well if the
waterfall was video and not just
a still image.

Sorry )

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[Guest]

I'll change the audio 'someday'... until then, here's another test

the first one was made at a Quality setting of 95, which for this story
gives it a video bitrate of 49 kbps

here are 2 more to test against the first

the next break point is Quality setting 97... which bumps the video bitrate
on it up to 66 kbps
http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=8674&CID=50358

and then the final break point of Quality setting 100 results in a video
bitrate of 106 kbps
http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=12533&CID=50362

going too high with the Quality setting resulted in unwanted shimmering when
viewing a DVD on TV... I'm wondering if for internet streaming it would be
better to go back up, or leave it at the 95 setting. The answer might differ
by the monitor.

The total bitrate at Quality 100 is 238 kbps, still much less than the rule
of thumb for streaming at mydeo for those with a broadband connection.

 

[John Inzer]

I'll change the audio 'someday'... until then, here's another test

the first one was made at a Quality setting of 95, which for this
story gives it a video bitrate of 49 kbps

here are 2 more to test against the first

the next break point is Quality setting 97... which bumps the video
bitrate on it up to 66 kbps
http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=8674&CID=50358

and then the final break point of Quality setting 100 results in a
video bitrate of 106 kbps
http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=12533&CID=50362

going too high with the Quality setting resulted in unwanted
shimmering when viewing a DVD on TV... I'm wondering if for internet
streaming it would be better to go back up, or leave it at the 95
setting. The answer might differ by the monitor.

The total bitrate at Quality 100 is 238 kbps, still much less than
the rule of thumb for streaming at mydeo for those with a broadband
connection.

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They both run smooth on my machine.
If there are any variations...I don't notice
them.

WinXP SP2

P4 3.4 GHz

1GB RAM

I have an Old Magnavox 107S CRT...
I'm not a fan of LCD screens.

Cheers,

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[PapaJohn]

Yes, there are differences in visual quality... my newsletter #95 explored
them

http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/95/Quality-Settings-in-Custom-Profiles.aspx

 

[PapaJohn]

OK... this is the final-final one in this series... the same story saved to
the upper high-def level of 1920x1080 pixels for those who can see such a
size... I don't have a screen that big.

The quality setting is 100 and the bitrate is 317 kbps total (164 video and
153 audio)

http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=17945&CID=50451

the mydeo service doesn't limit the bandwith of the uploaded videos... just
suggests settings that should work for various viewers setups/connections...
I'm trying to explore the sweet spot for my stories.

 

[John Inzer]

Yes, there are differences in visual quality... my newsletter #95
explored them

http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/95/Quality-Settings-in-Custom-Profiles.aspx

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Okay...I was just remarking that I
cannot see a significant difference.

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[Yves Alarie]

Your first link worked fine. This one is terrible. Slow, choppy picture, my
screen is 1280 x 1024.

 

[John Inzer]

OK... this is the final-final one in this series... the same story
saved to the upper high-def level of 1920x1080 pixels for those who
can see such a size... I don't have a screen that big.

The quality setting is 100 and the bitrate is 317 kbps total (164
video and 153 audio)

http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=17945&CID=50451

the mydeo service doesn't limit the bandwith of the uploaded
videos... just suggests settings that should work for various viewers
setups/connections... I'm trying to explore the sweet spot for my
stories.

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This one plays and looks fine also.
I'm sorry that I cannot offer any real
constructive feedback but I'm simply
not a video expert.

Cheers,
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******John Inzer********
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*****Digital Image******
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http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

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[PapaJohn]

so John wins for the best connection... my laptop plays fine until about
80%, then starts stalling...

my desktop is poor from the beginning....

both are wireless to my router, but the laptop has a 54 Mbps connection
while the destop is 11 Mbps