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Guest

I have a relatively new desktop pc, which had XP Media Edition originally,
but it got into a failed boot-up loop, and the tech guys so-called "Geek
Squad" said it was either a HD flaw or corrupted OS, as they wanted money for
all things needed I installed a new OS (Windows XP Pro) on my own, but got
the partition messed-up, but still have a clean system HD with over 120 GB.
The error message "error reading referenced memory at loaction XXX-000 ...
and the string signature I reported in detail to HP, but they were no help,
and this same issue came-up on my hp laptop, but it survived, though, like I
said, my hp Media Center PC m7160n died and was reborn as a pc with Windows
XP pro (clean install I believe - and the "Geek Squad" tech guys found no
issue with my OS installation, except I needed to recover some drivers, which
I have done successfully. The point to this long and(likely) wearysome post
to this user group is to ask - why is the same eror message coing up on two
different machines and having wiped-out all traces of the desktops former
"life" as it were? I have different stuff on my laptop, as I cannot do
without it for my grad studeies, and take care to avoid putting anything that
might be problematic for the Windows XP OS to handle (at least that is my
intent). I do have (and have had) hp printers and all-in-one scanners hooked
to these machines, and have an hp scanjet 4570c hooked via USB to this
"reborn" desktop. In need a scanner for getting text/ research documents
onboard to sift through for my (eventual) M.A. thesis. I have only an hp
printer (deskjet 6122) on my hp laptop via USB. Okay, this is way too much
information, but even after having something like hp customer service
"royalty" call and see if they might help - nobody seems to know what to do,
and I fear, once again, I'll lose my desktop to the bugga-boo "error" message
and I'll start all over with many hundreds of dollars down the drain. If I
could "talk the talk" I'd probably do better using computers, but my "liberal
arts" background holds me back, sort of makes me say too much and not really
say anything useful re my tech problem. If you read this and can spare a
moment to think back to see if any similar error message came before you in
the course of using a computer of yours, and I would write down the "exact"
text of this error message if it would come at a time when I did not get
freaked-out by dread of a computer melt-down. I'll call Microsoft paid tech
support, if I knew I could explain my problem and not feel I was talking
greek or ancient Latin or something and so my failure to explain myself would
work to nullify my payment of the 50 dollars or so for the service of geeting
an expert to troubleshoot my problem. By the way, is there a Microsoft
Corporation "Fire-brigade" of sorts for ordinary people (not businesses), I
would like some kind of "rescue squad" run by Microsoft Corp. (and no one
else) to be available to me (and non-technologists like me) when we fear a
computer melt-down (and I get that hair-raising feeling even as I type this
message). Well, if they don't have such a service, maybe theat will come in
the future, I'd feel much better, and, like my personal physicain tells me on
occasion), sometimes one needs to be a good "patient" and good pro-active
"consumer" at the same time. I would help myself if I could, and I'd listen
to the advice from knowledgable persons if it were offered (so I knew what
was being asked of me). But I seem to be not doing either "job" very well,
snd I truly wish it were otherwise. I hope MS does not truncate this message
or find it offensive, I mean no harm and certainly have great respect for
those using this forum.. Thank youi.
 
M

Malke

H. William Osborne said:
I have a relatively new desktop pc, which had XP Media Edition originally,
but it got into a failed boot-up loop, and the tech guys so-called "Geek
Squad" said it was either a HD flaw or corrupted OS, as they wanted money for

(snip unreadable post)

I am not saying this to hurt your feelings. I really do want to help
you. Try posting again. Use bulleted or numbered points. Use whitespace
to set off your points. Be concise but thorough. You need to make your
post easy to read; right now it just looks like a long
stream-of-consciousness novel.

Here is a link that will help you craft your next post so you can get
focused help:

http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Again, I do not mean to hurt your feelings in any way but there's no way
I - or others who might have the answer to your problem - am going to
wade through what you wrote.


Malke
 
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Mistoffolees

Malke said:
(snip unreadable post)

I am not saying this to hurt your feelings. I really do want to help
you. Try posting again. Use bulleted or numbered points. Use whitespace
to set off your points. Be concise but thorough. You need to make your
post easy to read; right now it just looks like a long
stream-of-consciousness novel.

Here is a link that will help you craft your next post so you can get
focused help:

http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Again, I do not mean to hurt your feelings in any way but there's no way
I - or others who might have the answer to your problem - am going to
wade through what you wrote.


Malke

I think he's looking to retain a computer service outfit. <:))
 
D

dobey

Mistoffolees said:
I think he's looking to retain a computer service outfit. <:))

Interesting - I didn't find it unreadable, could have been better formatted
certainly. Maybe the snipper should have typed "unwilling to read post".

It does sound like he needs to retain a local PC repair service centre, or
maybe get an IT degree.
 
G

Guest

Mistoffofflees and Maliki (sp), please accept my apologies in advance, I had
no idea I communicated so badly, except I must say I have trouble punching
the key-board, as I have had eye surgery very recently, and so have issues
with depth perceptionn a.k.a. my ability to hit the right key. Also I type
poorly, and my spelling only works when I use a spellcheck feature (and sadly
I did graduate from the public schools of Cleveland Ohio - no, not the
suburbs, not even the Westpark area or the Collinwood area - but the real
nitty places you likely could not drive near-to). Once again into the breach:

(bulletin)

Start process: string idiom as follows: REFERENCED MEMORY COULD NOT BE
REFERENCED AT LOCATION ... , end of message, close process.

Logical drive failure at 03.04.02007.1435.30 Z.

(end bulletin)


Terse comments are appreaciated (sp); and business is, after all, business.

Finally, for M&M, here's one little nugget you may (or not) appreciate:
"(Paul Adrian Dirac wrote)... I was awake the night long and knew this was
correct (ref: the seminal work on antiunitary field theory *as in what is the
positron*) and I needed to get the necessary references, but it was Sunday
and the library was closed."

Postscript (yes I write lots): MSS, I do look for a service organization
(have you one?), and MLK, yes, white-spaces and bullets are always apropos;
as are market-valued shareware providers and large-scale network ITaS - but I
only know what I do not know - so what you've graciously offered is not
without merit.

Thanks a lot guys :>{|

I hope you found my word choice succinct, and therefore quite to the point.

H. William
 
M

Malke

H. William Osborne wrote:

Is this the error message you are getting? When do you get this error
message and what are you doing when it happens?
Start process: string idiom as follows: REFERENCED MEMORY COULD NOT BE
REFERENCED AT LOCATION ... , end of message, close process.

Logical drive failure at 03.04.02007.1435.30 Z.

Malke
 
F

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM

H. William Osborne said:
Mistoffofflees and Maliki (sp), please accept my apologies in advance, I
had
no idea I communicated so badly, except I must say I have trouble punching
the key-board, as I have had eye surgery very recently, and so have issues
with depth perceptionn a.k.a. my ability to hit the right key. Also I
type
poorly, and my spelling only works when I use a spellcheck feature (and
sadly
I did graduate from the public schools of Cleveland Ohio - no, not the
suburbs, not even the Westpark area or the Collinwood area - but the real
nitty places you likely could not drive near-to). Once again into the
breach:

(bulletin)

Start process: string idiom as follows: REFERENCED MEMORY COULD NOT BE
REFERENCED AT LOCATION ... , end of message, close process.

Logical drive failure at 03.04.02007.1435.30 Z.

(end bulletin)


Terse comments are appreaciated (sp); and business is, after all,
business.

Finally, for M&M, here's one little nugget you may (or not) appreciate:
"(Paul Adrian Dirac wrote)... I was awake the night long and knew this was
correct (ref: the seminal work on antiunitary field theory *as in what is
the
positron*) and I needed to get the necessary references, but it was Sunday
and the library was closed."

Postscript (yes I write lots): MSS, I do look for a service organization
(have you one?), and MLK, yes, white-spaces and bullets are always
apropos;
as are market-valued shareware providers and large-scale network ITaS -
but I
only know what I do not know - so what you've graciously offered is not
without merit.

Thanks a lot guys :>{|

I hope you found my word choice succinct, and therefore quite to the
point.


Nowhere in either of your messages is there a real description of the
problem nor a complete, exact quote of the error message. As far as I can
tell you also refrain from telling us what you are doing when whatever it is
happens.
Do a thorough check for malware following all of the steps at one of these
sites:
Help with malware
All MS-MVP Sites.
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/darnit.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm

Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315

So How Did I Get Infected Anyway?
For quite a few people it's by installing Messenger Plus, whose ads for
malware don't identify the malware as such and try to convince you that you
owe it to the author. See also:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=27971
Don't ever do a "default" install of anything. Always choose Custom and see
what else is being carried along. Don't install any extras you're not sure
of.
 
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Guest

Oh absolutely, I wish I had an IT degree; even some basic computer course
would be very helpful. Again, alas, I am not good at tech stuff, and logic
and math are difficult; I barely muddled through my basic stats course and
weirdly tested out of taking more math at my university (those assesment
exams must be flawed to be sure). But I see learning how to use a computer
would be very nice, and hope somehow to take at least an intro class in the
ner future (no chance I could do an IT degree, unless reading "Milton" is a
good sub for writing base code and/ or mastering C+ or Boolean logic). My
actual error messge text was written-down and provided to a woman at hp tech
support, but she, and later a he tech person, never seemed to address what
the significance was - if any - of a "failure" and/ or inability for Windows
to read some particular referenced memory. I have had this same "error"
message pop-up when doing a variety of things; installing software,
shutting-down the pc, starting-up the pc, opening a program or file, using my
mouse to hover over an icon; I hope the MVP sees I'm not actually trying to
be a slacker here; it's just no discernable pattern for my buggaboo "error
message" has emerged. I wrote-down and handed to the pc tech support folks I
had paid 200 dollars USD to keep my new pc ship-shape; and they offered to
install a new OS and/ or provide a new HD and OS, but only after payment of
many many hundreds of dollars more (but I did give them 200 dollars early-on
in 2005 for "service plan" and that fact did not seem to give them the
tiniest pause re asking for more money). That's about the time I thought
about the cost-versus-benefit of taking coursework in computers, even if it
would cost 1500 dollars or more (not counting books and software). But I
digress again, sorry. How does one "format" a post to a newsgroup exactly.
Are we not writing (posts) in plain text and so cannot use italics or even
bullets (sorry M)? Must be some cryptic thing folks know and will do, and
yet I do not see (my eyes you know). I live in a backwater part of Ohio and
don't get out much anymore, and the tech folks hereabouts (not counting the
chain stores like BB) seem bent on ... well I'm not sure they want anything
more than an open check-book with a fat bank account... but I'm not flush in
that way and I'm leery of playing the other man's game as it were ...
especially if the man seems too eager to get into my pockets. Anything
else... I'm thinking here... you may hear the rusty gears turning in my head.
Nope, but I will write-down that buggaboo error message's actual text string
of alpha numeric symbols and what not... and I'll look at my hands and see
what I was trying to do when my little demon comes before me once again
(please don't think I'm promoting some ideology or evoking evil or something
with that phrase/ word choice, but I'm doing "Milton" for my Master's thesis
and it is on my mind a lot and so it filters through what I say/ do/ write/
et cetera. Please, do not force yourself to read my messages if you have a
problem reading lots of text/ reading quickly with good comprehension; I
forget the "economic demands" or the required "mental economy" we all labour
under each day.

HW
 
M

Malke

H. William Osborne wrote:

(snip)

I asked you this question:

*****
Is this the error message you are getting? When do you get this error
message and what are you doing when it happens?
Start process: string idiom as follows: REFERENCED MEMORY COULD NOT
BE REFERENCED AT LOCATION ... , end of message, close process.
Logical drive failure at 03.04.02007.1435.30 Z.
*****

You have not answered that question. If you truly want help for this
error, please answer the question. Otherwise I'll just assume you're a
troll with a hipcrime slant and I'll just killfile you. Your choice.


Malke
 
G

Guest

Well, huh?

That being said, as I do not speak greek, the error message is not actually
in the second post of mine, but it is a stylized version suitable for persons
requiring a special kind of textual rendition, i.e., as you require (and the
MMS person echoed you to some extent) a message/ communication with a certain
style, as in "bullets" and "white-space" and so on. I wrote the second post
to please you, as terse and tight as I could make it, only machine code would
have been more "formal" and, of course, not flowing and long and streaming
like you alluded to. No, a "troll" is a small sub-creatures of myth, but
"trolling" is to act as if to "fish" or "bait" or "catch" - and I want
nothing (want nothing to catch) - and I'm sure I will get what I expect -
largely nothing (from some quarters anyway). But I have a real problem with
avoiding the ubiquitous error(s) and mixed messages and also HD melt-downs,
that is real, as the yellow of my eye teeth. I'm not "hip" and I'm as pure
as the driven snow (ask my priest). What was that other thing? Oh well, no
matter. But jejune remarks are not always helpful. Let's think about that
"malware" idea our MVP mentioned - no, I've been aware of such threats for
some time now, and have the best practices in place, and they have been in
place from day one, on every computer I own (and have owned - well not the
cheap Packard Bell computer I had circa 1999). If there were an obvious
answer to my problem it is not making itself evident thus far (and not in
this forum), so - adieu. Damn cat's got my foot, ouch!
 
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Malke

H. William Osborne said:
Well, huh?

That being said, as I do not speak greek, the error message is not actually
in the second post of mine, but it is a stylized version suitable for persons
requiring a special kind of textual rendition, i.e., as you require

(snip)

*plonk*


Malke
 
G

Guest

M said - wrote - or in that vein anyway - that I did not give him the
complete error message I received (have received), therefore he pooh-poohed
me off - and that's reasonable as he has computers to do (I guess). Maybe
you, as MVP (or one such person - I've spoken to more than one - so you must
be legion) mentoned a "malware" connection re my error - referenced memory
could not be read at 000-XXX-000000000-... (I think that's the whole thing -
my memory is pretty good. If one has "best practices" in place and -well I
have a premium Microsoft product guarding my network/ computers - cost a
bundle and it's worth it (I suppose), and have checked 50 times or more per
week for bugs and slugs and things that carp (is that a tech jargon word - so
many arcane little terms - and who will remember them 100 years from now).
The wee links you have listed in your post reply to my post reply to - well
now it's confusing - but don't want to make you slog through this one - last
one if my cat has her way :) - well I just don't really trust links from
people I do not know - and I know very little about youse guy (or women if
the gender is wrong), so links you give are not a benefit to me (and as I
raised the ier or creted a frowny-face or some such thing herbouts - I really
have no use for a "helpful" tech link to making me better writer or learning
ctrl alt del again or stuff like that. But if, hypothetically, I were to
call MS and ask for a in-home service call, could they do that - assuming I
had buckets of hundred dollar bills (I looked at my "kitty" and it seems
lcking that money right now - but what if - kind of assume I'm wildly wealthy
and (not wanting to buy a new computer every other day) I needed a tweak and
clean job done on occasion - is MS able to give that kind of service?
Self-help, misnomer as it seems at times, might mean just pointing to someone
or something (like a genie or witch or true-blue and honest technical person)
- here - in this MS Windows XP general newsgroup (the one where I am *ploop
ploop ploop ... nd so one per Makes request and command). That's all I can
think of to get the frog to jump as it were - and I do enjoy poking through
the exotic stuff like "RUNDL dll drive not shown and so on" - for a freind of
mine this is like gold - he studies grocery lists re "stylistics" and has a
book in the works on commonplace rhetoric (Cambridge UP 2008).
 
P

Peter Foldes

That being said, as I do not speak greek,

But you sure speak like Prozac and a big dose at that
 
G

Guest

I speak... what is it you said... like a drug... one cannot speak like a
drug... but one can be inarticulate... which may result from the use of
prescription (or non-prescription) drugs... sorry to correct the tiny flaw...
some young folks use Zoloft... but you should read the warning insert. You
have advice (or need advice), but I must feed my cat, she is begging for a
bit of Perch. Think of all the time lost to sods doing web-work instead of
reading memos and ploughing-through the thick stack of urgent correspondance.
Back-at-it - but not me though - it's nap time. A cat 'n nap - ha ha!
Please close and lock this thread, if you would be so kind Microsoft et al,
it serves no purpose at this juncture, except to titillate the jaded and lost
boys 'round hereabouts. If you do not lock this thread ASAP, I'll ask for a
higher-up to consider my request. And *ploop* means what again? And Prozac
is for what again? And good writing is ... a good thing? And terse little
jargon-talk is (highly) valued in most cultures? And the "Y" Generation is a
really an up-slope on a vast long down-slope? What is a Shmoo exactly? Pink
Floyd said it right, and there is nothing more one can add... But (lock this
bloody thread) - I'll leave you to playing grab-ass, to echo what RSM Lewis
once said.
 
F

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM

Cats and HW stuff said:
M said - wrote - or in that vein anyway - that I did not give him the
complete error message I received (have received), therefore he
pooh-poohed
me off - and that's reasonable as he has computers to do (I guess). Maybe
you, as MVP (or one such person - I've spoken to more than one - so you
must

SNIP

Assuming that you are the same poster, given the fact that you refuse to
give the information needed to help you, I have to assume that you just want
to blather on in your disorganized way. Go ahead, but you won't get any
help if you won't give us the information we need.
 

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