Equation Editor: How can I change the color of the font.

G

Guest

I suspect it may be dependent on the color scheme of the slide, but I'm not
sure.

You might call up the picture toolbar (View|Toolbars|Picture) and, with your
equation selected on the slide, click the Recolor icon. This allows you to
recolor for display on the slide while still allowing you to easily see the
text when you open the equation to edit it.
 
D

dee

click on the object to select it.
right click
format object
choose the tab at top for picture
recolor
new--choose color
dee
 
B

belmeier raymond

Its not working
when I click recolor, nothing happens...
what's wrong then..

is it all the equations must be black??
 
B

Bob Mathews

Actually, Dee outlined the correct procedure to recolor equations in
PowerPoint. If you've followed these instructions to the letter and
it's still not working, something else is wrong. Note these things
about this procedure though:

1. If you successfully re-color an equation in PowerPoint and
subsequently paste it into Word, it changes back to black. Neither can
equations be re-colored directly in Word.

2. You can only change the black to some other color. You can't set
part of the equation to one color and another part to a different
color. MathType, however, has this capability, and these colored
equations can be inserted into any app you may use MathType with (not
just PowerPoint).

For more information about MathType, including a free 30 day
evaluation, see our website (linked in my signature).

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide
 
D

Doctor

I am having the same problem.

I must create an equation editor 3.0 object in order
to make an equation in powerpoint. This opens a separate
equation editor window in which I can type the equation.
When I close the equation editor the equation does indeed
appear on the slide (visible if the background is a light color).
However, with a dark background the black text of the equation
is not readable or (on a very dark slide background) not even
visible.
So I use dee's procedure and get to the "recolor" button, but
when I click on it nothing happens.
This used to work in previous versions of Powerpoint, as I still
have old presentations with equations to prove it.

I am using a fresh install of Office 2007 Student Edition, on
Windows XP Media Center Edition.

Has anyone seen a technical article on this problem, or a
patch/hotfix/update that fixes the problem?
 
E

Echo S

Also, I wanted to mention that dee's instructions are for PPT 2003. That
"recolor" button doesn't work in PPT 2007, as you found.
 
D

Doctor

Thank you Echo S. That page at least provides a few
workarounds. Since I posted here I discovered another one
on my own, though it is not as good as the ones on the link
you gave.
What I did was to create the equation with a light colored
rectangle behind it (so I could see it), then right click on the
equation and save it as a picture (I saved as png to preserve the
transparent background). I then used Photoshop (any image
editor would work) to recolor the black text, leaving the
transparent background alone. Then I imported the picture
of the equation back into photoshop. The light colored rectangle
used to make the original equation visible can then be deleted.
This is a tedious process, but it might be useful for anyone
that wants to post equations onto the web in an HTML
document. The resulting images look pretty much like the
original equations, though they are (of course) no longer editable.

Incidentally, if I then want to recolor the imported png images,
I still can't. I must go through the whole process again for every
small change I want to make to the equation, so my advice to
people using this technique is to not delete the original equations
-- just move the originals to some scratch slide, in case you want to
alter the equation and repeat the conversion.

My request to Microsoft programmers (if any are reading this):
Please re-enable the recolor feature for pictures, equations and
other objects. If Powerpoint remains this inconvenient to use
(for scientists, mathematicians and engineers) then we may all
just stop using Powerpoint, and possibly stop using MS Office
all together -- in favor of something like OpenOffice.

Thanks for your prompt reply, Echo S.

Echo S said:
Here are some additional options.

Using Equation Editor with PowerPoint 2007
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00832.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


Doctor said:
I am having the same problem.

I must create an equation editor 3.0 object in order
to make an equation in powerpoint. This opens a separate
equation editor window in which I can type the equation.
When I close the equation editor the equation does indeed
appear on the slide (visible if the background is a light color).
However, with a dark background the black text of the equation
is not readable or (on a very dark slide background) not even
visible.
So I use dee's procedure and get to the "recolor" button, but
when I click on it nothing happens.
This used to work in previous versions of Powerpoint, as I still
have old presentations with equations to prove it.

I am using a fresh install of Office 2007 Student Edition, on
Windows XP Media Center Edition.

Has anyone seen a technical article on this problem, or a
patch/hotfix/update that fixes the problem?
 
E

Echo S

Yeah, I also miss the recolor feature, but while I just find it inconvenient
at times, its lack *really* hurts when you're working with equations and
such.

Rather than taking your PNG into Photoshop, try the recolor options in PPT
2007.

Go to Picture Tools Format, Recolor and use the "Light Variations" to change
the text to various theme colors

You should have a theme color in there that works well with your slide. If
not, the color scheme probably should be rethought in general.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


Doctor said:
Thank you Echo S. That page at least provides a few
workarounds. Since I posted here I discovered another one
on my own, though it is not as good as the ones on the link
you gave.
What I did was to create the equation with a light colored
rectangle behind it (so I could see it), then right click on the
equation and save it as a picture (I saved as png to preserve the
transparent background). I then used Photoshop (any image
editor would work) to recolor the black text, leaving the
transparent background alone. Then I imported the picture
of the equation back into photoshop. The light colored rectangle
used to make the original equation visible can then be deleted.
This is a tedious process, but it might be useful for anyone
that wants to post equations onto the web in an HTML
document. The resulting images look pretty much like the
original equations, though they are (of course) no longer editable.

Incidentally, if I then want to recolor the imported png images,
I still can't. I must go through the whole process again for every
small change I want to make to the equation, so my advice to
people using this technique is to not delete the original equations
-- just move the originals to some scratch slide, in case you want to
alter the equation and repeat the conversion.

My request to Microsoft programmers (if any are reading this):
Please re-enable the recolor feature for pictures, equations and
other objects. If Powerpoint remains this inconvenient to use
(for scientists, mathematicians and engineers) then we may all
just stop using Powerpoint, and possibly stop using MS Office
all together -- in favor of something like OpenOffice.

Thanks for your prompt reply, Echo S.

Echo S said:
Here are some additional options.

Using Equation Editor with PowerPoint 2007
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00832.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


Doctor said:
I am having the same problem.

I must create an equation editor 3.0 object in order
to make an equation in powerpoint. This opens a separate
equation editor window in which I can type the equation.
When I close the equation editor the equation does indeed
appear on the slide (visible if the background is a light color).
However, with a dark background the black text of the equation
is not readable or (on a very dark slide background) not even
visible.
So I use dee's procedure and get to the "recolor" button, but
when I click on it nothing happens.
This used to work in previous versions of Powerpoint, as I still
have old presentations with equations to prove it.

I am using a fresh install of Office 2007 Student Edition, on
Windows XP Media Center Edition.

Has anyone seen a technical article on this problem, or a
patch/hotfix/update that fixes the problem?

:

Actually, Dee outlined the correct procedure to recolor equations in
PowerPoint. If you've followed these instructions to the letter and
it's still not working, something else is wrong. Note these things
about this procedure though:

1. If you successfully re-color an equation in PowerPoint and
subsequently paste it into Word, it changes back to black. Neither can
equations be re-colored directly in Word.

2. You can only change the black to some other color. You can't set
part of the equation to one color and another part to a different
color. MathType, however, has this capability, and these colored
equations can be inserted into any app you may use MathType with (not
just PowerPoint).

For more information about MathType, including a free 30 day
evaluation, see our website (linked in my signature).

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide

On 24-Jan-2008, belmeierraymond wrote:

Its not working
when I click recolor, nothing happens...
what's wrong then..

is it all the equations must be black??

--
regards,
belmeier raymond


:

click on the object to select it.
right click
format object
choose the tab at top for picture
recolor
new--choose color
dee
 
B

Bob

The process you describe would really only make sense for someone who
has only an occasional equation in a presentation. For someone whose
life depends on equations though (such as the scientists,
mathematicians, and engineers to which you refer at the end of your
post), it sure seems to me like it'd be worth the expense of MathType.
You can do all the coloring you want in MathType, and still end up
with an editable equation. For less than a hundred bucks USD (57 if
you're academic), you can buy back that time you currently spend
coloring equations in Photoshop.

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide
 
S

savage.cm

I also am greatly perturbed by the removal of the equation recoloring
feature in 2007. However, I have another partial workaround to add to
the mix. If you happen to have a presentation from an older version
of PowerPoint that contains a recolored equation (in the color you
desire), open that presentation, then copy and paste that equation
into your new presentation. The recoloring will be maintained. To
create additional equations, simply copy and edit the first one.

The recoloring doesn't seem to be maintained if whole slides are
copied, so you need to copy a slide, then go back and copy equations
separately.

The equation coloring is more important to me than any of the features
added to the newer versions of PowerPoint. Unfortunately, I think
that means I will be going back to Office 2000. **grumble**
 
P

pandey.abhyuday07

If you want to convert your equation to white then right click on the equation, then format object-picture and change the brightness level to 100 percent.
ENJOY!!!
 
C

charles.coronella

If you want to convert your equation to white then right click on the equation, then format object-picture and change the brightness level to 100 percent.

ENJOY!!!

Well darn that's brilliant. Works for anything pasted in from MS Word, also.
 

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