epson stylus photo R1800 or 2100

[Fluffy]

Was considering the 2100 <2200 in US> then saw that the R1800 is coming out
<already out?> in the UK, so trying to decide between the two.I'm looking
for A3, maybe up to A3+ with archival inks for printing artwork and photos.
Been Googling and getting confused!

Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

Many thanks,

Fiona

 

[Shooter]

I think you will find the problems with the 2100 ie Bronzing has been sorted
out with the R1800. If like me your wish to print good quality glossy prints
and if you wish to print them on a 2100 you have to change to dye ink. With
the 2100 I have to nozzle check every day to stop having to clean heads even
on a small misfire, Pigmented ink used with the 2100 seems to block more
easily than dye ink, but of course the prints don't last as long with dye
ink. I get round this by keeping all my camera files and re-printing if and
when I need to.

 

[measekite]

The R1800 reduces the problem Epson has had when printing with pigmented
inks on glossy paper because it has a gloss optimizer. If you do not
sell your prints and want the most striking glossy prints available in
that size I would consider the Canon i9900. It has the advantage of
more vivid and striking results and far lower ink costs. You should
also make yourself aware of the issue of longevity and try to determine
how much of an issue that will be with you.

 

[measekite]

Another argument for the Canon i9900. This printer topped the majority
of professional reviews and is $150 cheaper than the Epson R1800. A
full set of OEM carts at Costco for the Canon is about $75.00.

 

[Douglas]

I had the 2200,and did have clogging problems.Then bought the R800,and for
about 9 months now,have had NO clogging at all.It is not my main printer,so
it goes as long as a week without use.I use only genuine Epson cartridges.I
did also own a Canon 9900 for several months.It is a very good
printer,better than the newer Pixma series printers!If the R1800 was
available,I would have bought it,after my luck with the R800.It all comes
down to do you want,or need the longest life prints.I sell my prints,so
there is no choice to make.If that is what you intend to do,I would get the
R1800! My Epson 4000 gets most of my print work,but it is huge by
comparison.I also use a cont.ink system with my 4000.I am sure they will be
selling those for the R1800 soon.

 

[Hecate]

Was considering the 2100 <2200 in US> then saw that the R1800 is coming out
<already out?> in the UK, so trying to decide between the two.I'm looking
for A3, maybe up to A3+ with archival inks for printing artwork and photos.
Been Googling and getting confused!

Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

Many thanks,

Hi Fiona,

I've got the 2100 and it's brilliant. However, if I was buying now I'd
get the 1800, unless I needed something bigger. The 1800 has more
inks and the gloss optimizer and you'll get wonderful prints. I don't
know if they still do it, but if you contact Epson (www.epson.co.uk)
they are usually happy to send out a sample print.

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[Robert]

Where can one buy bulk dye ink for the 2200?

rtm

I had the 2200,and did have clogging problems.Then bought the R800,and for
about 9 months now,have had NO clogging at all.It is not my main printer,so
it goes as long as a week without use.I use only genuine Epson cartridges.I
did also own a Canon 9900 for several months.It is a very good
printer,better than the newer Pixma series printers!If the R1800 was
available,I would have bought it,after my luck with the R800.It all comes
down to do you want,or need the longest life prints.I sell my prints,so
there is no choice to make.If that is what you intend to do,I would get
the R1800! My Epson 4000 gets most of my print work,but it is huge by
comparison.I also use a cont.ink system with my 4000.I am sure they will be
selling those for the R1800 soon.

 

[Hecate]

Where can one buy bulk dye ink for the 2200?

You can't. It uses pigment ink.

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[measekite]

Where can one buy bulk dye ink for the 2200?

rtm

That is why you are not having problems.

That is why he needs longevity over vibrancy and speed.

 

[Shooter]

Not so, If you change to dye ink which is available from many resellers you
get rid of the Bronzing and are able to produce first class glossy prints as
well as semigloss I have been using dye ink in my 2100 / 2200 for about a
year and have less trouble with clogs than with pigmented. The 2100/2200
will handle dye ink with no problem whatsoever.

 

[measekite]

Not so, If you change to dye ink which is available from many resellers you
get rid of the Bronzing and are able to produce first class glossy prints as
well as semigloss I have been using dye ink in my 2100 / 2200 for about a
year and have less trouble with clogs than with pigmented. The 2100/2200
will handle dye ink with no problem whatsoever.

If someone uses dye ink in a pigmented Epson printer to get decent
results without a head clog then why not purchase a Canon i9900 and have
the best from the beginning.

 

[Rob]

If someone uses dye ink in a pigmented Epson printer to get decent
results without a head clog then why not purchase a SHIT Canon i9900 and have
the best from the beginning.

Boring

 

[Robert]

Where do you get the dyebased ink for the 2200? Hecate's answer was
irrelevant. I have a CIS for the 2200.
rtm

 

[measekite]

Boring

For changing my word that make you a Moron side of an Idiot just south
of an imbecile.

 

[Shooter]

I get my ink from Everest Mini King Continuous Ink Systems. The sell 7x100ml
for £28 plus shipping. Benny is the guy to contact at
(e-mail address removed)21.co.uk and he's in Liverpool UK. Hope this is of help.

 

[Hecate]

Not so, If you change to dye ink which is available from many resellers you
get rid of the Bronzing and are able to produce first class glossy prints as
well as semigloss I have been using dye ink in my 2100 / 2200 for about a
year and have less trouble with clogs than with pigmented. The 2100/2200
will handle dye ink with no problem whatsoever.

OK. It's just that all the manufacturers of good quality ink will, of
course, match the ink to the printer. Plus, if you only want images
that last for a short time, the 2100 is a bit of overkill. After all,
you purchase that printer because of it's inks and for print
longevity. Using dye inks in it is pointless.

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[Hecate]

Where do you get the dyebased ink for the 2200? Hecate's answer was
irrelevant. I have a CIS for the 2200.

Guess what. SO do I. It uses pigment inks.

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[CSE]

If someone uses dye ink in a pigmented Epson printer to get decent
results without a head clog then why not purchase a Canon i9900 and have
the best from the beginning.

What the Best Head Rot, do you realy know what you are talking about..?

 

[Shooter]

A couple of points, first the 2100 is not overkill as a dye ink machine. If
you require bronzing free prints also it produces A3 if required and allows
the use of roll paper, it also cuts to size. I do not sell my prints but do
show them and have not had a problem with fading.

If you go back to using film cameras and slide or negatives the prints
produced by a process house would also fade, there is far to much fuss about
how long ink prints will last, hell 75yrs I will be dead and gone by then
but my work will be stored safe on CD and who knows what printers will be
available in 75yrs to re-produce my work .So again I do not believe you
purchase a printer because of what ink it uses.

 

[Robert]

You're absolutely right Shooter. I'll be glad if I last as long as my dye
based ink pictures.
rtm