End of support for XP

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Rick Rogers

Hi Gordon,

That page is for license availability, which will end 24 months after Vista
is released. By then XP will be almost 8 years old. Mainstream support forXP
Pro will be for 24 months after Vista is released, extended support for XP
will be for 5 years after that. For XP Home it's the same without the
extended support.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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Gordon

Rick Rogers said:
Hi Gordon,

That page is for license availability, which will end 24 months after
Vista is released. By then XP will be almost 8 years old. Mainstream
support forXP Pro will be for 24 months after Vista is released, extended
support for XP will be for 5 years after that. For XP Home it's the same
without the extended support.


Thanks very much for the info - so basically I'm Ok for the next 5 to 7
years then.......
 
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HeyBub

Gordon said:
Thanks very much for the info - so basically I'm Ok for the next 5 to
7 years then.......

Of course not. You'll want Vista.

I don't know why, exactly, but you will.
 
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Gordon

HeyBub said:
Of course not. You'll want Vista.

I don't know why, exactly, but you will.

Oh no I won't - not until I upgrade machines....and that could be at LEAST 5
years.....
 
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Gordon

Alias~- said:
Only after it has SP2.


Most programs and all new games will be made for Vista, that's why.

Alias


but I'm OK with Office 2003, Open Office 2 and I don't play games......
 
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Alias~-

Gordon said:
but I'm OK with Office 2003, Open Office 2 and I don't play games......

I'm OK with Office 2000 and will probably keep XP Pro on my business
machine for a long time after Vista comes out. My kid's computer, OTOH,
is a different story as we do play games on it, although, sadly, games
seem to be made more for Playstation and XBox than computers nowadays.

Alias
 
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Baloo

Alias~- said:
Most programs and all new games will be made for Vista, that's why.

Not necessarily: Atari and id make it a point to release on Linux. It's
not entirely impossible that they drop Windows support for the sake of ease
of development.
 
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Baloo

Alias~- said:
I'm OK with Office 2000 and will probably keep XP Pro on my business
machine for a long time after Vista comes out. My kid's computer, OTOH,
is a different story as we do play games on it, although, sadly, games
seem to be made more for Playstation and XBox than computers nowadays.

It's somewhat of a pain to develop games for Windows, especially in a secure
manner (ie, does not require Administrator privs). Partly why Atari and id
devel on Linux and port to Windows instead of the other way around.
 
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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)

That page is for license availability, which will end 24 months after Vista
is released. By then XP will be almost 8 years old. Mainstream support forXP
Pro will be for 24 months after Vista is released, extended support for XP
will be for 5 years after that. For XP Home it's the same without the
extended support.

That's a problem for XP Home, as today's 1-year-old PCs may not be up
to the strain of Vista. In any case, hardware tax depreciation (a
common yardstick for PC lifetimes in business) is 3 years, so killing
off XP support 2 years from Vista release is going to cut into the
expected life span of 1-year-old PCs at time of Vista release.

What's the story with SBS and Server 2003?


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Baloo

Gordon said:
I already dual boot XP and SLED 10......:)

SLES 10 is nice. It would be nicer if package management wasn't utterly
cripped by Novell's choice of using RPM for package management over
something that actually works right like dpkg...
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user):
so killing
off XP support 2 years from Vista release is going to cut into the
expected life span of 1-year-old PCs at time of Vista release.

"Intel givith. Microsoft taketh away."
 
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Rick Rogers

Hey Chris,

A 1-2 year old pc should handle Vista pretty easily, most being sold now are
listed as Vista-compatible, some even with upgrade offers included. MS has
already effectively ended support for XP "Gold" as a service pack is
required for most updates, so while the time frame may be 8 years, the
effective time is more like 6. I wouldn't expect most businesses to leap
into Vista until it's been out for some time (hell, mine just moved the line
from DOS machines to XP with a VM for the program).

Like most businesses, support for older versions peters out with the release
of newer ones. MS isn't the only one guilty of that, and it's not limited to
just software. Televisions, cars, appliances, etc. all suffer from this same
business methodology. Funny it is too as most companies make more from
repairs than they do from sales of new product, kind of a non-sequitor, is
it not?

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)

Hey Chris,
Hi!

A 1-2 year old pc should handle Vista pretty easily

Vista is not free, and upgrading OS is not a low-impact procedure from
either the user (UI) or system perspective. This is in contrast to
appying a Service Pack, which is free and is designed to change the
guts without changing the look-and-feel or breaking other system
stuff... not that SPs are truly free (try downloading one over a
modem, while paying a telco per second) or always clean.
Like most businesses, support for older versions peters out with the release
of newer ones. MS isn't the only one guilty of that, and it's not limited to
just software. Televisions, cars, appliances, etc. all suffer from this same
business methodology. Funny it is too as most companies make more from
repairs than they do from sales of new product, kind of a non-sequitor, is
it not?

Actually, it always surprises me how one can get new parts for old
cars and motor cycles - in spitre of the vastly greater resources and
costs involved in getting these to far corners of the world, such as
Durban. It is easier for sware vendors, who just stick a copy on a
server and let you do the shlepp of "distributing" it on your dime,
and yet they are flakier on this anyway.

If we are to pay per copy for the OS as if it were a durable part of
the system, then it must last as long as the rest of the system, which
in local business practice is usually counted as 3 years.


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