email newletters just like the pros(?)

[Guest]

I've read the longer threads that try to answer the question of how to send
emails with web-page-like newsletters in the message area. There has been
lots of posts about using Outlook Express and html blocking by the
recipient's client, but that's not helping me figure out the technique.

I get EXCELLENT emails from my trusted suppliers and from some newsletter
sources. The one thing that seems to be common is that they have nice
hyperlinks that take you to web sites for further browsing. I've receive
some that even have some basic animation (a window that switches between
panes every few seconds). Many have the look and feel of a web page you
might expect to encounter when browsing the sender's web site.

I've successfully created a basic email within the message area (not as an
attachment) via Publisher. But there appear to be some important limits
using that technique. I use FP2003 for multiple sites so have some basic
understanding of web creation including html, cpp, etc.

I wonder how the people that are sending these wonderful emails are doing
it? Do they use a web tool like FP? Do they use a layout program like
Publisher? Unlike Publisher I have yet to find a way to send a FP document
as part of a message (my settings only show being able to send as an
attachment). Publisher allows to send either as an attachment or as part of
the message.

PDFs are not an option for me since I won't spend the $ for a tool to create
them although, if that's the best way to do what I want I might be convinced
to put out the cash.

With the hope of avoiding some of the side discussions that has occurred on
other threads, does anyone have a technique they use to embed web-page-like
images in email messages (using Outlook in my case - I don't want to make my
email client OE so lets not go there).

Although we may have been annoyed by some, we've all seen some excellent
examples of email newsletters or emarketing design.

Thanks

Tom

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You will do best locating a web service that provide the ability to send HTML emails. You can not
use the FP form handler to send HTML emails.

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[Mike Mueller]

What I do is create the body in FP and save it just as any
ordinary webpage. The only exception is that any images need
to be stored in the same folder as the webpage.
In Outlook or OE, you would then use an html format for your
emails, and then choose your stationary- browse to your web
page and you are good to go

: I've read the longer threads that try to answer the
question of how to send
: emails with web-page-like newsletters in the message area.
There has been
: lots of posts about using Outlook Express and html
blocking by the
: recipient's client, but that's not helping me figure out
the technique.
:
: I get EXCELLENT emails from my trusted suppliers and from
some newsletter
: sources. The one thing that seems to be common is that
they have nice
: hyperlinks that take you to web sites for further
browsing. I've receive
: some that even have some basic animation (a window that
switches between
: panes every few seconds). Many have the look and feel of
a web page you
: might expect to encounter when browsing the sender's web
site.
:
: I've successfully created a basic email within the message
area (not as an
: attachment) via Publisher. But there appear to be some
important limits
: using that technique. I use FP2003 for multiple sites so
have some basic
: understanding of web creation including html, cpp, etc.
:
: I wonder how the people that are sending these wonderful
emails are doing
: it? Do they use a web tool like FP? Do they use a layout
program like
: Publisher? Unlike Publisher I have yet to find a way to
send a FP document
: as part of a message (my settings only show being able to
send as an
: attachment). Publisher allows to send either as an
attachment or as part of
: the message.
:
: PDFs are not an option for me since I won't spend the $
for a tool to create
: them although, if that's the best way to do what I want I
might be convinced
: to put out the cash.
:
: With the hope of avoiding some of the side discussions
that has occurred on
: other threads, does anyone have a technique they use to
embed web-page-like
: images in email messages (using Outlook in my case - I
don't want to make my
: email client OE so lets not go there).
:
: Although we may have been annoyed by some, we've all seen
some excellent
: examples of email newsletters or emarketing design.
:
: Thanks
:
: Tom

 

[Murray]

Check http://www.mailchimp.com - I use them frequently.

 

[Guest]

So how do they do it?

You will do best locating a web service that provide the ability to send HTML emails. You can not
use the FP form handler to send HTML emails.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
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a Service Pack or security update, please contact
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http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
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==============================================

 

[Guest]

Thanks, I'll give it a try and will post back the results.

There has to be a way to do this without having to hire/use some pro outfit.
I mean, even they ultimately have to use some basic technique for the html
design and inclusion into an email sending program.

Tom

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

They have custom written application service or if you can run ASP/Access take a look at the
following application:

http://www.aspwebpro.com/aspapplications/subscriber.asp


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[Trevor L.]

Thanks, I'll give it a try and will post back the results.

There has to be a way to do this without having to hire/use some pro
outfit. I mean, even they ultimately have to use some basic technique
for the html design and inclusion into an email sending program.

I found a site called JKN (Jump Knowledge , I think) and they dont charge
for a 'limited number of emails per month (not sure of the limit).

The code is
HTML
<a href="nojsmess.html" target="_self"
title="Email this page as HTML"
onclick="postform();return false;">
Email this page as HTML</a>

JS
function postform()
{
var url = 'http://my.jkn.com/Send?pr=xxxxxxxx&url='
+ location.href
+ '&subject=' + document.title
var win = window.open(url,'',
'toolbar=no,location=no,directories=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes'
+ ',height=600,width=800')
}
Where xxxxxxxx is an 8 digit number supplied by JKN
(My nojsmess.html is a file displayed when the visitor doesn't have JS - it
is not essential)

I think I had to register with JKN first to get this number at
http://jkn.com/

Unfortunately my home page doesn't email very well as it has unusual margins
which I set up to try to get pages which format OK with fixed side and top
<div>s. It does this well but JKN doesnt like it. Yours may be quite OK