Dual Hard Drives

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Carey Frisch [MVP]

No, it won't work. Windows 98 is an old operating
system and will not function in a new computer.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| I'm about to dive in and get myself a new system. with Windows XP
| Professional. Right now I work with Win 98SE and have a lot of "stuff" I
| don't want to loose. After reviewing a lot of info about dual hard drive
| installations, I'm wondering if I can open the box of the new machine, set
| the jumpers, power supply and ribbon connection to make the Windows XP pro
| the slave drive and simply take the Win 98SE drive out of the old computer
| and install it as the new primary hard drive,.close things up and press on
| about business. This sounds way too simple, so where am I wrong and what's
| the right way of doing this. I now there's a conflict in file systems FAT32
| versus NTFS?? Thanks for any advice.
|
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Daniel Crichton

Tom wrote on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:36:00 -0500:
I'm about to dive in and get myself a new system. with Windows XP
Professional. Right now I work with Win 98SE and have a lot of "stuff" I
don't want to loose. After reviewing a lot of info about dual hard drive
installations, I'm wondering if I can open the box of the new machine, set
the jumpers, power supply and ribbon connection to make the Windows XP pro
the slave drive and simply take the Win 98SE drive out of the old computer
and install it as the new primary hard drive,.close things up and press on
about business. This sounds way too simple, so where am I wrong and what's
the right way of doing this. I now there's a conflict in file systems
FAT32 versus NTFS?? Thanks for any advice.

I'm guessing you got your description the wrong way around. Assuming you
did, and you want to put your old drive into your new XP machine so you pull
data off that you had in 98SE, you would put the old drive in as the slave
and then XP will be able to read it.

If you really want to go the other way, and run the old 98SE setup on the
new PC with the new hard drive as the slave, then you're going to run into a
bunch of possible problems. If the XP drive is NTFS, you won't be able to
read/write to it without 3rd party drivers - if it's FAT32, or you convert
it to FAT32 first, you could use it. You might run into issues running 98SE
on a new machine - drivers may not be available for the hardware.

Personally, I'd go with my first suggestion - put the old drive in as a
slave so you can use your old files in XP.

Dan
 
V

Vagabond Software

Tom said:
I'm about to dive in and get myself a new system. with Windows XP
Professional. Right now I work with Win 98SE and have a lot of "stuff" I
don't want to loose. After reviewing a lot of info about dual hard drive
installations, I'm wondering if I can open the box of the new machine, set
the jumpers, power supply and ribbon connection to make the Windows XP pro
the slave drive and simply take the Win 98SE drive out of the old computer
and install it as the new primary hard drive,.close things up and press on
about business. This sounds way too simple, so where am I wrong and what's
the right way of doing this. I now there's a conflict in file systems
FAT32
versus NTFS?? Thanks for any advice.

Along with Daniel, I'm assuming you meant that you want to slave your old
Windows 98 drive in your new XP system.

That is what I have done with every computer upgrade since 1996. The fact
that your old Windows 98 drive is FAT32 will have no effect whatsoever.
Slave the drive in your XP system and you can search, browse, and move files
from the drive at your leisure and convenience. Heck, you can even convert
it to NTFS as I did to the drive from my Windows ME system.

carl
 
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Infosink

Yes, that's what I thought - he has it the wrong way around. Install Windows
XP onto a primary active partion on a master HDD then add the Win98 HDD as a
slave and perhaps just grab the info/data/files/music/pics off that old
drive. And he shouldn't overlook investigating what Windows XP's Files and
Settings Transfer Wizard can do ..
 
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Gary

What on earth were you thinking Carey?

Are you really trying to tell everyone that if you have a new computer the
following will not run on it.
1. Dos
2. Windows 3.1
3. Windows for workgroup
4. Windows 95
5. Windows ME
6. Windows 98
7. Windows NT
8. Windows 2000
9. Windows XP
10. Windows 2003
 
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Ghostrider

Gary said:
What on earth were you thinking Carey?

Are you really trying to tell everyone that if you have a new computer the
following will not run on it.
1. Dos
2. Windows 3.1
3. Windows for workgroup
4. Windows 95
5. Windows ME
6. Windows 98
7. Windows NT
8. Windows 2000
9. Windows XP
10. Windows 2003

Carey isn't too far off the mark. Certainly with one of
today's high-speed boxes, MS-DOS, Windows 3.1 and WFWG will
encounter problems, typically runtime errors due to the slow
compilation speeds of their programming. Such issues started
showing up with CPU speeds starting to exceed 1 GHz and were
problematical with 2 GHz and faster CPU's. For Windows 95, 98
and ME, finding appropriate drivers for them to function with
today's peripherals may be a problem. Even with the NT/2000/XP
family, NT driver files that will work with many of today's
parts are practically non-existent. Obsolesence happens pretty
quickly in the computer world.
 
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Alan

Tom said:
I'm about to dive in and get myself a new system. with Windows XP
Professional. Right now I work with Win 98SE and have a lot of "stuff" I
don't want to loose. After reviewing a lot of info about dual hard drive
installations, I'm wondering if I can open the box of the new machine, set
the jumpers, power supply and ribbon connection to make the Windows XP pro
the slave drive and simply take the Win 98SE drive out of the old computer
and install it as the new primary hard drive,.close things up and press on
about business. This sounds way too simple, so where am I wrong and what's
the right way of doing this. I now there's a conflict in file systems
FAT32
versus NTFS?? Thanks for any advice.

Can you explain more clearly what you want to do, how you want the computer
to end up, running what. It's a bit jumbled and unclear.
 
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Gary

Sorry but you are way off the mark.
I am running a dual operton system with 4 gig of memory and I have
personally run every one of the above on this machine with NO errors at all.
 
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philo

Tom said:
I'm about to dive in and get myself a new system. with Windows XP
Professional. Right now I work with Win 98SE and have a lot of "stuff" I
don't want to loose. After reviewing a lot of info about dual hard drive
installations, I'm wondering if I can open the box of the new machine, set
the jumpers, power supply and ribbon connection to make the Windows XP pro
the slave drive and simply take the Win 98SE drive out of the old computer
and install it as the new primary hard drive,.close things up and press on
about business. This sounds way too simple, so where am I wrong and what's
the right way of doing this. I now there's a conflict in file systems
FAT32
versus NTFS?? Thanks for any advice.

If you are saying you want to run win98 on your new machine...
it will probably not run by just putting in the win98 HD and booting from
it.
You will have quite a few hardware issues...
You may be able to get it running...but it will take a bit of work.
Such things you'd need to do would be getting drivers for the new
hardware...
and changing the vcache setting if you have over 512 megs of ram

However...if you merely want to slave the drive into your new system
and copy the data over to your new XP computer...that will be fine
 
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Gordon

No, it won't work. Windows 98 is an old operating
system and will not function in a new computer.

More gibbering RUBBISH from some one who is ALLEGEDLY an MVP....

What a STUPID, MORONIC statement.
 
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Ron Sommer

Consider yourself lucky.
So you have had no hardware driver problems?
You can print from all of the systems?
Your screen resolution will go low enough?
 
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Infosink

Well, Windows 98 won't work on my Intel board with SATA drives. Sure, I can
get it to install, but it's a screw up. Nope, I wouldn't recommend Windows
98 for the newer machines, especially with ones with complicated SATA & IDE
setups - it just doesn't handle them.

By the way, a post where all you do is call others names but offer no
solution is not exactly my idea of brilliance.
 
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JP

Try it out - it might at least take care of the time problem. You are
posting in the future!

:)

JP
 
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Jared Foster

While I won't go so far as to say it's not possible, I don't think it would
be a very pleasant experience to say the least. When you say you have stuff
you don't want to lose, are you refering to data or programs? If the
former, then simply transfer them to the new drive...no need to boot 98 to
access them (XP does read FAT32 disks). If programs, then try them in XP
compatibility mode and see if that works. If you absolutely need the
Windows 98 setup, then just keep the old computer around.
 
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PopS

Jeez, just where are you guys coming from? There's a -lot- of
misinformation floating around here! Perhaps you've all read the
same misinformed articles, but ... woof!

Pop
 
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Paul Knudsen

I'm about to dive in and get myself a new system. with Windows XP
Professional. Right now I work with Win 98SE and have a lot of "stuff" I
don't want to loose. After reviewing a lot of info about dual hard drive
installations, I'm wondering if I can open the box of the new machine, set
the jumpers, power supply and ribbon connection to make the Windows XP pro
the slave drive and simply take the Win 98SE drive out of the old computer
and install it as the new primary hard drive,.close things up and press on
about business. This sounds way too simple, so where am I wrong and what's
the right way of doing this. I now there's a conflict in file systems FAT32
versus NTFS?? Thanks for any advice.

I'd say forget it. There probably won't be 98 drivers available for
your new hardware.
 
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Guest

Go out and purchase one of those new Dell, Gateway or
HP PCs and try to install Windows 98. You'll enjoy the
many bluescreens you'll get!

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User


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What a STUPID, MORONIC statement I made!
 
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Jared Foster

Editing other peoples posts in your reply...very nice...

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JaReD


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I eat babies...they taste delicious...
 

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