Drive space disappearing...say what?

H

Harry Krause

I have a 75 gig hard drive as "C" on which XP Pro is mounted.
Drive works fine, but...

Windoze seems to be losing track of how much free space it has. If I
check "My computer" or other ways of seeing how much space on the drive
is used and how much is free, the latter drops by a couple gigs every
time I reboot, even if I haven't added anything.

No virii, no spyware, none I can find.

I called Western Digital, and was told, "It's a windows problem."

And that might me?
 
P

ppcc

Have you cleaned out the temporary files? recycle bin ( Norton
Protected?) and also restore points? Run chkdsk and defrag after the
cleanup.
If the missing space still cant be traced, you could try using this
utility tht helps to track it-
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
 
H

Harry Krause

ppcc said:
Have you cleaned out the temporary files? recycle bin ( Norton
Protected?) and also restore points? Run chkdsk and defrag after the
cleanup.
If the missing space still cant be traced, you could try using this
utility tht helps to track it-
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

Thanks. This is really weird.

I have cleaned out temps, recycled, norton protected and run checkdsk
and defrag.

Every time I boot, I get a different number as to availability of free
space.

If it says I have 30 gigs free, I can free up more by copying over a 36
gig folder from another drive. It will take that whole folder -
sometimes - and then when I erase it from the C drive, I'll be told I
have 36 gigs free.

Weird, eh?


I'm close to calling MS, but I always get the same answer when I call
in with a problem..."well, you'll just have to reinstall Windoze...."
 
S

sandy58

I take it that you have cleaned out c;\docs&settings, Harry? I know I
have had gb's worth of junk regularly stashed away there. It IS a
windows problem. WebRoot WindowWasher is not too shabby at cleaning
out.
Good luck
 
H

Harry Krause

sandy58 said:
I take it that you have cleaned out c;\docs&settings, Harry? I know I
have had gb's worth of junk regularly stashed away there. It IS a
windows problem. WebRoot WindowWasher is not too shabby at cleaning
out.
Good luck

Yeah. Done that. Every time I reboot, I lose more HD space.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Harry

To investigate how you are using hard disk space you need to make sure that
you can see all files. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View,
Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show hidden files and
folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is
unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should
also make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file types"
is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View, Details is selected
and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name, Type, Total
Size, and Free Space.

You still will not see the System Volume Information folder.
How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

FileSize -a useful tool for use with Windows Explorer when investigating how
disk space is being used.
http://markd.mvps.org/

The download link is not obvious. Click the here in the two sentences of the
web page accessed through the link above. "I can't count the number of times
someone has asked for this. So here is a module you can install that shows a
Folder Size column in Explorer."

To increase you free space on your C select Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and
remove all but the latest System Restore points? Restore points can be quite
large.

You should use Disk CleanUp regularly to Empty your Recycle Bin and
Remove Temporary Internet Files. Whenever you remove redundant files you
should always run Disk Defragmenter by selecting Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter.

Are you using any Norton Utilities?

If your hard drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of your
C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows folder
typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ etc.

These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed the
text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not compressed
you can compress them. Right click on each folder and select Properties,
General, Advanced and check the box before Compress contents to
save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount gained
by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder compression is
only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is that for
temporary internet files especially if you do not store offline copies on
disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings
to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history
is held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. On your drive
5% should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor on your
Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and move the slider
from 10% to 5%.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
H

Harry Krause

Gerry said:
Harry

To investigate how you are using hard disk space you need to make sure that
you can see all files. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View,
Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show hidden files and
folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is
unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should
also make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file types"
is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View, Details is selected
and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name, Type, Total
Size, and Free Space.

Thanks...did that already.
You still will not see the System Volume Information folder.
How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

Thanks, will check.

FileSize -a useful tool for use with Windows Explorer when investigating how
disk space is being used.
http://markd.mvps.org/

The download link is not obvious. Click the here in the two sentences of the
web page accessed through the link above. "I can't count the number of times
someone has asked for this. So here is a module you can install that shows a
Folder Size column in Explorer."

To increase you free space on your C select Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and
remove all but the latest System Restore points? Restore points can be quite
large.

You should use Disk CleanUp regularly to Empty your Recycle Bin and
Remove Temporary Internet Files. Whenever you remove redundant files you
should always run Disk Defragmenter by selecting Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter.

Are you using any Norton Utilities?

If your hard drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of your
C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows folder
typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ etc.

These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed the
text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not compressed
you can compress them. Right click on each folder and select Properties,
General, Advanced and check the box before Compress contents to
save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount gained
by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder compression is
only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is that for
temporary internet files especially if you do not store offline copies on
disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings
to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history
is held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. On your drive
5% should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor on your
Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and move the slider
from 10% to 5%.

The problem seems a dynamic one. That is, I got the free space up to 50
gigs through several chkdsk runs, but then each time I reboot, the free
space decreases by a few gigs. Really strange.
 

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