Drive Image 7.0: Another Backwards Step in Evolution?

[Echoes]

Mindless stuff. That requires enough space, and when
doing a safety image before working on a system, it
may not even have a separate partition to write the
image to, let alone enough space for that approach.

Where the **** have you been for the last several years? So ****ing
what? I'm sure a lot of people have more than 1 partition or more than
1 drive. Hard drives are getting inexpensive.

Even you should be able to manage to restart it in that
unlikely event. Pointless always creating the image on
an internal drive for that extremely unlikely situation.

Yeah, I guess you don't believe in duplicate/redundant backups. One on
the hard disk and one on removable media. I guess it never occurred to
you that it's nice to have extra safety in case the CD-R/DVD-R gets
misplaced. Jesus stinking Christ on the cross. Even neophyte computer
users have more sense.

Again an arrogant issue where you ignore what some customers may like.

Or demonstrates in spades what a pathetic
excuse for a bullshit artist you have always been.

Or demonstrates how far your head is up your ass, since you don't seem
to be flexible in what customers may need or do. Christ in hell.

Wrong. As always. They're always welcome to use DI

Bullshit. Insert CD to boot, run the functions for Restore and pick
image file, etc.

2002 for that if DI 7 has some downsides in that area.

Its included on the CD, stupid.

I know that, you goddamned ****ing retard.

You could always try chucking another tantrum and get
precisely the same result from powerquest, an obscene
gesture in your general direction, just like you got when
you chuck that other tantrum about DI 2002 previously.

And you're a tired old man who should have been put out to pasture a
long time ago. What are you, some retired old man who attempts to hang
on to life through tired old and wheezing gasps?

Just terminal ****wits such as yourself, child.

Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 3 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.

Oh yeah, you're so grown-up because you can insult better. Oh, that's
really good.

Why don't you go get cancer and die? Or get AIDS and die. Do the world
a favor, and die.

 

[Rod Speed]

This aint gunna go away just because you delete it, child.

Where the **** have you been for the last several years?

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of
your predicament better than that pathetic effort, child.

Lift your game.

So ****ing what? I'm sure a lot of people have
more than 1 partition or more than 1 drive.

And plenty dont. In spades with systems that need attention.

Hard drives are getting inexpensive.

Must be one of those rocket scientist fools.

Some do indeed choose to backup to an
external drive which doesnt have DOS drivers.

Yeah, I guess you don't believe in duplicate/redundant backups.
One on the hard disk and one on removable media.

Guess again. Tho how desirable those are with the backup on
an external drive is rather arguable. It is in fact the backup on
another partition or drive in the PC that needs some redundancy.

If you do say drop the external drive and kill it, even someone
as stupid as you should be able to grasp that its just a tad
unlikely that the original will choose that time to die too.

And I dont choose to have JUST crude images for backup,
I ALSO have other backups of stuff I'll slash my wrists if
I loose it on other media like duplicated CDRs etc.

I also choose to write image files across the network to
space on other internal drives on other PCs on the network,
so that even if the PC dies rather spectacularly, the image
is still available for a restore when the PC is replaced etc.

That capability to do the image creation at the Win level
rather than a primitive boot to DOS is also very handy
in that particular situation. Being able to do that in the
background is also handy since they arent as fast as
image creation to another drive on the same PC.

One on the hard disk and one on removable media.

I guess it never occurred to you that it's nice to have
extra safety in case the CD-R/DVD-R gets misplaced.

Or even someone as stupid as you should be able to
use groups google and see that I have spelt out that I
do in fact have that sort of redundancy and much more.

You can wipe that egg off your silly little face now, child.

Jesus stinking Christ on the cross. Even
neophyte computer users have more sense.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of
your predicament better than that pathetic effort, child.

Lift your game.

Again an arrogant issue where you ignore what some customers may like.

Pathetic, really. Its you who's ignoring what some customers
might like, like being able to use drives that dont have DOS
drivers, being able to image the currently booted Win partition,
being able to incrementally backup in the background, etc etc etc.

And any customer that doesnt like the boot from the
CD for a restore is always welcome to continue to
use the DI 2002 thats included if the restore doesnt
need to use a drive that doesnt have a DOS driver etc.

Or demonstrates how far your head is up your ass,

Dont actually have a donkey, thanks child.

since you don't seem to be flexible in what
customers may need or do. Christ in hell.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of
your predicament better than that pathetic effort, child.

Lift your game.

Fact.

Insert CD to boot, run the functions
for Restore and pick image file, etc.

Wrong. As always. They're always welcome to use DI
2002 for that if DI 7 has some downsides in that area.

I know that, you goddamned ****ing retard.

So what are you ranting about, child ?

Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 3 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.

 

[Echoes]

Little kids arent allowed to use norty words, child.

So I guess I shouldn't say: "Jesus cocksucking Christ on the goddamned
cross"?

I didn't really want to subject anyone else
to this [now] off-topic thread and whatnot.

Yeah, it can flaunt the fact that you're just another silly
little kid that hasnt managed to grasp that no adult is
ever impressed by your sort of childish attempts at
insults when you've got done like a dinner, yet again.

Like I really want to be a master at insults.

It's too bad you didn't die during September 11.

Keep digging that hole, child. You'll be out in china any day now.

Little kid. I like that. Of course, you're too goddamned stupid as you
assume my age.

 

[Echoes]

And plenty dont. In spades with systems that need attention.


Must be one of those rocket scientist fools.

Hmm, here is a perfect example of you contradicting yourself, old man.
First you criticize me for not having 2 computer systems (assumably
because it's too expensive), but yet you can't see that having more
than one hard drive is feasible.

Senility. The price of old age.

Some do indeed choose to backup to an
external drive which doesnt have DOS drivers.

This is a perfect example of a crotchety old man wanting to use a
program a specific way and yet criticizing others if they wish to use
it another way.

Guess again. Tho how desirable those are with the backup on
an external drive is rather arguable. It is in fact the backup on
another partition or drive in the PC that needs some redundancy.

So why not have both? How much harm does that really do?

Or even someone as stupid as you should be able to
use groups google and see that I have spelt out that I
do in fact have that sort of redundancy and much more.

Why should I waste my time googling for your extensive number of
posts? In any event, you weren't initially clear about it.

You sound like some sales/PR drone for Powerquest. First you say that
I'm wrong in regards to babysitting the machine some extra steps. But
then your next sentence is always welcome to using DI2002. So you
didn't exactly say in how specifically I was wrong in babysitting the
machine some extra steps.

Wrong. As always. They're always welcome to use DI
2002 for that if DI 7 has some downsides in that area.

You sound like some sales/PR drone for Powerquest. First you say that
I'm wrong in regards to having to insert the CD so the machine can
boot off of it, Restore functions, etc. But then your next sentence is
always welcome to using DI2002. So you didn't exactly say in how
specifically I was wrong in inserting the CD, etc..

Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 3 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.

I'm sorry that you always repeat yourself. Is senilty setting in that
fast? I'm sorry.

 

[Echoes]

Well, it was enjoyable while it lasted, old man. Thank you for the
entertainment in regards to insults and whatnot. I sort of enjoyed
doing name-calling and insults, although I'm not a "pro" like you.

At any rate, no need to respond, Unlike you, I don't hang out in the
newsgroups all the time.

 

[Bishoop]

|
| |
| >>> DI 7 also requires Microsoft Framework
| >>> to be installed. What does this do for me?
|
| >> Basically ensures a decent cashflow for powerquest that
| >> is what funds improvements to DI and V2i Protector etc.
|
| > DI 7 improves PQ cash flow.
|
| Only if most who use it pay for it.
|
| > What does Framework do?
|
| Makes it harder to get DI 7 without paying for it.

But .net Framework is a no cost add-on to Windows.

 

[Rod Speed]

|
| |
| >>> DI 7 also requires Microsoft Framework
| >>> to be installed. What does this do for me?
|
| >> Basically ensures a decent cashflow for powerquest that
| >> is what funds improvements to DI and V2i Protector etc.
|
| > DI 7 improves PQ cash flow.
|
| Only if most who use it pay for it.
|
| > What does Framework do?
|
| Makes it harder to get DI 7 without paying for it.

But .net Framework is a no cost add-on to Windows.

Completely irrelevant to the cashflow to powerquest when
the use that makes it harder to use DI7 without paying for it.

 

[Echoes]

Since you seem to delight in insults and calling names, I guess I'll
have to sink to your level.

Actually, you seem to be like a tired old man -- an embittered old man
-- who does nothing else but habitate these newsgroups. If anything
doesn't go your way, you jump on other people. S

Some people in this newsgroup seem to like you. Some others don't,
claiming you are overrated. I have to agree. You are overrated like
that bastard Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ who hasn't done a thing in 2 thousand years (cuz he's
dead!) and yet people speak glowing words about that stupid son of a
bitch.

Similar to you, in fact.

Not everyone cares about incremental backups.

 

[Echoes]

Or 3), you hate powerquest for some reason and keep
mindlessly raving on like this year after year after year.

No, I like their product. I was one of the first pioneers at my
company to use this. Their strengths outweigh their weaknesses, but
there's always just something that makes it less than a perfect
upgrade for me.

Which just happens to be the best approach when repairing
any of the higher performance versions of Win too.

You said the key word here: repair[ing]. Agreed. Using what I suspect
is Microsoft's WinPE engine, it is quite handy to have when
troubleshooting a boot issue. For example, third-party driver file on
NTFS partition got corrupted and there's no copy of it in DLLCache and
it's screwing the boot process. Bad example, I know, since Safe Mode
will effectively bypass that, but you get the idea.

. But my post never said anything about repairing; I'm just referring
to the issue of booting off a CD to do Restore operations.

And they include the previous version of
DI free so you can do that if you want to

So that brings up an interesting question, then: Can I backup the
%windir% partition with DI7, and then do a Restore using DI2002? Have
my cake and eat it, too?

I would answer my own question and actually try this, but I already
restored my system back to an earlier image.
.

Its crippled by the need for a DOS driver for the hardware.
Thats a massive problem with the more unusual hardware
thats now widely used for external drives etc.

Sort of off topic, but I read that some company has just created a
real-mode USB2.0 driver. Dunno how solidly it works, tho. If they can
make a 1394 driver as well, then I guess DOS will truly never die.

And operating at the Win level allows it to incrementally
backup with Win running, the only way to do a full capability
backup system. BECAUSE it doesnt operate at the DOS level.

So are you saying that it does multiple increment passes in the same
backup session?

How's it getting around the lock on pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys
anyway?

Actually if you want to point me to a white paper on V2I rather than
answering these [perhaps simple] questions, that would be fine.

No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to upgrade.

You can even get real radical and change over to Ghost
and put the boot into powerquest much more effectively than
any whining about powerquest in here will ever achieve.

Rhetorical question. I was really asking for any
reasons/justifications on why I should upgrade. I know that the file
browser is now integrated, and there are some other cosmetic changes,
but I was wondering about the possible differences between V2I and
PQI.

How often do you restore ? Why does that need to be automated ?

I actually run it quite a lot. Once every three days, if not more. I
do beta testing and download other public betas, and I always want to
restore back to a clean image.

Or in this case, after using DI7, instead of doing an Uninstall, I
just restore back to an image previous to the installation of DI7.

 

[Echoes]

You should have fully read what I said, which you didn't. The
strengths outweigh the weaknesses, but that doesn't mean it's a
perfect product.


And aside from some of Gateway's machines with the A20 gateway, there
shouldn't be a problem booting into Caldera DOS anyhow.


That's assuming you have another computer system. And if I were to do
formal beta testing, then it would be a worthwhile consideration. But
with informal beta testing, I'm not going to spend the money.

And it's sort of funny that you criticize people for using Drive Image
in a manner that you don't use it for.


Not that I am doing this, but some companies do automation testing
which necessitate having to restore many times during a day. So it
comes in handy if automation testing is totally script-driven and
reboots/restores need to be unattended.



Well, that was a given.


Again, another issue where you seem to disagre with anyone who doesn't
conform with using Drive Image in a manner that you prescribe.


I'm sorry that you seem to blindly accept change instead of
questioning it.

You're not really helping matters. I did ask why I should upgrade -- I
am willing to listen and if I like the answers to my questions, I will
embrace the upgrade, your insults and whatnot notwithstanding (not
that it bothers me; you have to be used to it when you are in the
newsgroups).


Yeah, I got around it because I had no choice.

 

[Echoes]

Hmm, here is a perfect example of you contradicting yourself, old man.
First you criticize me for not having 2 computer systems (assumably
because it's too expensive), but yet you can't see that having more
than one hard drive is feasible.

Senility. The price of old age.


This is a perfect example of a crotchety old man wanting to use a
program a specific way and yet criticizing others if they wish to use
it another way.


So why not have both? How much harm does that really do?


Why should I waste my time googling for your extensive number of
posts? In any event, you weren't initially clear about it.


You sound like some sales/PR drone for Powerquest. First you say that
I'm wrong in regards to babysitting the machine some extra steps. But
then your next sentence is always welcome to using DI2002. So you
didn't exactly say in how specifically I was wrong in babysitting the
machine some extra steps.


You sound like some sales/PR drone for Powerquest. First you say that
I'm wrong in regards to having to insert the CD so the machine can
boot off of it, Restore functions, etc. But then your next sentence is
always welcome to using DI2002. So you didn't exactly say in how
specifically I was wrong in inserting the CD, etc..


I'm sorry that you always repeat yourself. Is senilty setting in that
fast? I'm sorry.

 

[Rod Speed]

Guess which silly little child has just had a regurgitation spectacle ?

Clean up your mess and go to your room, child.

 

[Mark M]

Darn. I was sort of hoping no one else than Rod Speed would see
this message. Once I knew he read it, I canceled it. I didn't
really want to subject anyone else to this [now] off-topic
thread and whatnot.

As you can see, I'm lowering myself to Rod Speed's level by
engaging in insults and name-calling.

Not all servers honor cancels.

My main server does but it's easy enough to get the fills from
elsewhere.