Don't bother with Ilford paper & Canon i9950

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?BenOne=A9?=]

Hi all,

I've got a Canon i9950 printer and I thought I would try the Ilford Classic
Pearl paper seeing as Ilford bother to make profiles for their paper and your
printer and it's a fair bit cheaper than the Canon Photo Paper Pro yet still has
good print longevity claims.

Pity the ink pools (coalesces) regardless of the paper type setting in the
printer driver, effectively reducing the print resolution to nothing near the
4800x2400 dpi that this printer is capable of.

I spoke to Ilford and they claim they can't test every printer so it's
unfortunate that the best results aren't atainable with this printer & paper
combination.

Pesonally I don't think they should mention a printer on the box if they haven't
tested it and confirmed that there will be no problems. In Australia there is
actually a law that covers this in our Trade Practices Act. Wording to the
effect of not of merchantable quality, and doesn't perform as advertised.
Basically this paper doesn't work with this printer so don't say it does.

Looks like I'll have to stick with the rather expensive Canon Photo Paper Pro
which is a real shame because I've been happy with the Ilford paper in the past
in an Epson Photo 700.

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

Hi all,

I've got a Canon i9950 printer and I thought I would try the Ilford
Classic Pearl paper seeing as Ilford bother to make profiles for
their paper and your printer and it's a fair bit cheaper than the
Canon Photo Paper Pro yet still has good print longevity claims.

Pity the ink pools (coalesces) regardless of the paper type setting
in the printer driver, effectively reducing the print resolution to
nothing near the 4800x2400 dpi that this printer is capable of.

I spoke to Ilford and they claim they can't test every printer so it's
unfortunate that the best results aren't atainable with this printer
& paper combination.

Pesonally I don't think they should mention a printer on the box if
they haven't tested it and confirmed that there will be no problems.
In Australia there is actually a law that covers this in our Trade
Practices Act. Wording to the effect of not of merchantable quality,
and doesn't perform as advertised. Basically this paper doesn't work
with this printer so don't say it does.
Looks like I'll have to stick with the rather expensive Canon Photo
Paper Pro which is a real shame because I've been happy with the
Ilford paper in the past in an Epson Photo 700.

Shame JetTec don't sell to Australia - I use their papers exclusively, and
have never had a problem (except with the A4/A5 Cards + Envelopes Matt
210g/m² which don't appear to take the pigmented ink too well (I have both
an i9950 and an R800). Stupid thing is, I'm using JT tanks! JT doesn't
appear to have an answer). But everything else is fine. As it's the only
brand I use, I can't recommend anything else, I'm afraid.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?BenOne=A9?=]

Shame JetTec don't sell to Australia - I use their papers exclusively, and
have never had a problem (except with the A4/A5 Cards + Envelopes Matt
210g/m² which don't appear to take the pigmented ink too well (I have both
an i9950 and an R800). Stupid thing is, I'm using JT tanks! JT doesn't
appear to have an answer). But everything else is fine. As it's the only
brand I use, I can't recommend anything else, I'm afraid.

Thanks for the info Miss P.T. I think the problem with the Ilford Classic paper
and Canon i9950 is that the paper can't absorb the ink fast enough as the i9950
is a very fast printer.

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

Thanks for the info Miss P.T. I think the problem with the Ilford
Classic paper and Canon i9950 is that the paper can't absorb the ink
fast enough as the i9950 is a very fast printer.

Fast?! I did a speed test once. The Canon printed a full, borderless A4
photo in 6 minutes. The Epson took just over three.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?BenOne=A9?=]

Fast?! I did a speed test once. The Canon printed a full, borderless A4
photo in 6 minutes. The Epson took just over three.

Takes under 2 minutes on my i9950. Are you using the right high speed connection?

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

Takes under 2 minutes on my i9950. Are you using the right high speed
connection?

A printer cannot take the data fast enough from the computer to make
FireWire - or USB2 - necessary. But, just to humour you, I did a little
experiment. I printed the same photo (of a local church), with the printer
connected to my father's system (USB1.1), and then to mine (using USB2 and
FireWire). All three took similar lengths of time (in fact, the print from
my father's system was the fastest of the lot). All other parameters were
identical(XP Pro, Publisher 2003, identical print settings).

The system specs are as follows: -

Dad's system
-----------------
P3 1.4GHz
512MB RAM
120GB HD (80GB free)
Windows XP Pro
Office 2003 Pro
USB1.1

Mine
-----
FX-55
2x75GB Raptor (15K)
1x300GB WD Caviar (SATA)
2GB RAM
Windows XP Pro
Office 2003 Pro

The Epson is significantly faster (that's why I hardly ever use the Canon
anymore, other than when I need to do an A3 print).

 

[Michael J Davis]

Takes under 2 minutes on my i9950. Are you using the right high speed
connection?

A printer cannot take the data fast enough from the computer to make
FireWire - or USB2 - necessary. But, just to humour you, I did a little
experiment. I printed the same photo (of a local church), with the printer
connected to my father's system (USB1.1), and then to mine (using USB2 and
FireWire). All three took similar lengths of time (in fact, the print from
my father's system was the fastest of the lot). All other parameters were
identical(XP Pro, Publisher 2003, identical print settings).
[snip]

The Epson is significantly faster (that's why I hardly ever use the Canon
anymore, other than when I need to do an A3 print).

Sorry? Exactly how long does it take to do an A3 photo on the Epson?

If you are comparing an A3 printer with an A4 printer, (I don't know
what the numbers mean) then that's hardly like for like, is it? Carriage
travel and other factors must affect it. surely?

Mike
--
Michael J Davis
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Free advice is often worth
less than you paid for it.
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[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Fast?! I did a speed test once. The Canon printed a full,
borderless A4 photo in 6 minutes. The Epson took just over three.

Takes under 2 minutes on my i9950. Are you using the right high
speed connection?

A printer cannot take the data fast enough from the computer to make
FireWire - or USB2 - necessary. But, just to humour you, I did a
little experiment. I printed the same photo (of a local church),
with the printer connected to my father's system (USB1.1), and then
to mine (using USB2 and FireWire). All three took similar lengths of
time (in fact, the print from my father's system was the fastest of
the lot). All other parameters were identical(XP Pro, Publisher
2003, identical print settings). [snip]

The Epson is significantly faster (that's why I hardly ever use the
Canon anymore, other than when I need to do an A3 print).

Sorry? Exactly how long does it take to do an A3 photo on the Epson?

If you are comparing an A3 printer with an A4 printer, (I don't know
what the numbers mean) then that's hardly like for like, is it?
Carriage travel and other factors must affect it. surely?

Mike

Of course not! An A3 printer is quite capable of printing on A4 paper
y'know! What a nonsensical remark! You think a printer is locked to printing
on one size of paper?!

 

[Michael J Davis]

BenOne© wrote:
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Fast?! I did a speed test once. The Canon printed a full,
borderless A4 photo in 6 minutes. The Epson took just over three.

Takes under 2 minutes on my i9950. Are you using the right high
speed connection?

A printer cannot take the data fast enough from the computer to make
FireWire - or USB2 - necessary. But, just to humour you, I did a
little experiment. I printed the same photo (of a local church),
with the printer connected to my father's system (USB1.1), and then
to mine (using USB2 and FireWire). All three took similar lengths of
time (in fact, the print from my father's system was the fastest of
the lot). All other parameters were identical(XP Pro, Publisher
2003, identical print settings). [snip]

The Epson is significantly faster (that's why I hardly ever use the
Canon anymore, other than when I need to do an A3 print).

Sorry? Exactly how long does it take to do an A3 photo on the Epson?

If you are comparing an A3 printer with an A4 printer, (I don't know
what the numbers mean) then that's hardly like for like, is it?
Carriage travel and other factors must affect it. surely?

Of course not! An A3 printer is quite capable of printing on A4 paper
y'know! What a nonsensical remark! You think a printer is locked to printing
on one size of paper?!

Try reading what I said again.

I was suggesting that an A3 printer might be slower than a dedicated A4
printer printing A4 size. OTOH, it takes an infinitely long time to
print an A3 print on an A4 printer. Then average them! ;-)

Mike
--
Michael J Davis
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Some newsgroup contributors appear to have confused
the meaning of "discussion" with "digression".
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[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

Miss Perspicacia Tick <[email protected]> observed
BenOne© wrote:
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Fast?! I did a speed test once. The Canon printed a full,
borderless A4 photo in 6 minutes. The Epson took just over three.

Takes under 2 minutes on my i9950. Are you using the right high
speed connection?

A printer cannot take the data fast enough from the computer to
make FireWire - or USB2 - necessary. But, just to humour you, I
did a little experiment. I printed the same photo (of a local
church), with the printer connected to my father's system
(USB1.1), and then to mine (using USB2 and FireWire). All three
took similar lengths of time (in fact, the print from my father's
system was the fastest of the lot). All other parameters were
identical(XP Pro, Publisher 2003, identical print settings).
[snip]

The Epson is significantly faster (that's why I hardly ever use the
Canon anymore, other than when I need to do an A3 print).

Sorry? Exactly how long does it take to do an A3 photo on the Epson?

If you are comparing an A3 printer with an A4 printer, (I don't know
what the numbers mean) then that's hardly like for like, is it?
Carriage travel and other factors must affect it. surely?

Of course not! An A3 printer is quite capable of printing on A4 paper
y'know! What a nonsensical remark! You think a printer is locked to
printing on one size of paper?!

Try reading what I said again.

I was suggesting that an A3 printer might be slower than a dedicated
A4 printer printing A4 size. OTOH, it takes an infinitely long time to
print an A3 print on an A4 printer. Then average them! ;-)

Mike

I have read it several times, thank you, and it makes less and less sense
each time I read it.

 

[zoomer]

just wanted to reply, because I just bought a canon i9900 and while I
do use some canon paper ( I prefer semi-gloss ) I also use Ilford
classic and smooth pearl and have not had any problems, prints are
great, I am not familar with the i9950. My daughter has a ip8500 and
she also uses ilford smooth and classic pearl papers because we both
prefer semi-gloss to gloss. No one recommended Ilford paper to me,
but I did see an article in the newspaper a while back stating that
prints are only as good as the photo paper used and Ilford was highly
recommended, and I have used it ever since and been very pleased with
the results. I also use canon paper sometimes but Sam's Club sells
the 100 pack of smooth pearl paper at a very resonable price and they
have the 4 by 6 as well as 81/2 by 11. Just thought I would reply, I
have never replied before and only recently became a member of this
site

vicky in arizona

 

[Colin D]

just wanted to reply, because I just bought a canon i9900 and while I
do use some canon paper ( I prefer semi-gloss ) I also use Ilford
classic and smooth pearl and have not had any problems, prints are
great, I am not familar with the i9950. My daughter has a ip8500 and
she also uses ilford smooth and classic pearl papers because we both
prefer semi-gloss to gloss. No one recommended Ilford paper to me,
but I did see an article in the newspaper a while back stating that
prints are only as good as the photo paper used and Ilford was highly
recommended, and I have used it ever since and been very pleased with
the results. I also use canon paper sometimes but Sam's Club sells
the 100 pack of smooth pearl paper at a very resonable price and they
have the 4 by 6 as well as 81/2 by 11. Just thought I would reply, I
have never replied before and only recently became a member of this
site

vicky in arizona

The i9950 is the European/Asian/Australasian version of the i9900,
identical with the American version but with the addition of a CD label
printer, missing on the US verson due I believe to patent/copyright
problems there.

Ilford papers work outstandingly well on these printers, though
longevity has yet to be proved compared to genuine Canon papers.

Colin

 

[terry t]

If you are having problems with ink pooling you should try
experimenting with the settings in the print driver, under
manitenence, custom settings, ink drying wait time, and or identify
paper type.