Domain Controller Backup

G

Guest

I have our current Dmain Controller in our main location that I'm backing up.
The DC is W2K as is our Domain. I'm having a problem running the backup
even with compression where the backup is going on to a second tape. I don't
get in early enough the next day to put the second tape to finish the backup
before any use occurrs. We therefore get a few file in use errors on some of
the files.

The DC is partioned as follw C drive holds the OS and is the boot partition.
Drive D holds all data. The DC also holds all operation master roles as
well as running DNS and WINS and as well as being a Global Catalog server.

My question is maybe I should alter the backup scheme. I want to continue
to back up all data on drive D. My thought is do I have to backup everything
on Drive C or would the System State be sufficent.

Whta wold I have to do in a disaster scenario where I lost the entire
server. I've worked out the following

1) Bring Up New Server
2) Load OS
3) Load Arcserver (backup software)
4) Promote Server to DC
5) Restore Files

Does this seem right?

I want to conserver state while making sure I have a legitamate full backup
if possble.
 
R

Richard G. Harper

That's not going to work very well, if at all. You really need a second DC
if for no other reason than redundancy. Trying to restore AD in this manner
will likely destroy all the accounts and wind up being a mess to restore.

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G

Guest

we have other domain controlers in our organization. My question really is
what do i need to back up on the C (Primary partitionwhere the OS is
installed) drive?

What is a typicaly restore procedure if a DC was losat?

Richard G. Harper said:
That's not going to work very well, if at all. You really need a second DC
if for no other reason than redundancy. Trying to restore AD in this manner
will likely destroy all the accounts and wind up being a mess to restore.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
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George Schneider said:
I have our current Dmain Controller in our main location that I'm backing
up.
The DC is W2K as is our Domain. I'm having a problem running the backup
even with compression where the backup is going on to a second tape. I
don't
get in early enough the next day to put the second tape to finish the
backup
before any use occurrs. We therefore get a few file in use errors on some
of
the files.

The DC is partioned as follw C drive holds the OS and is the boot
partition.
Drive D holds all data. The DC also holds all operation master roles as
well as running DNS and WINS and as well as being a Global Catalog server.

My question is maybe I should alter the backup scheme. I want to continue
to back up all data on drive D. My thought is do I have to backup
everything
on Drive C or would the System State be sufficent.

Whta wold I have to do in a disaster scenario where I lost the entire
server. I've worked out the following

1) Bring Up New Server
2) Load OS
3) Load Arcserver (backup software)
4) Promote Server to DC
5) Restore Files

Does this seem right?

I want to conserver state while making sure I have a legitamate full
backup
if possble.
 
R

Richard G. Harper

That's an unanswerable question as asked. Please start your research here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...irectory/maintain/opsguide/part1/adogd03.mspx


--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


George Schneider said:
we have other domain controlers in our organization. My question really
is
what do i need to back up on the C (Primary partitionwhere the OS is
installed) drive?

What is a typicaly restore procedure if a DC was losat?

Richard G. Harper said:
That's not going to work very well, if at all. You really need a second
DC
if for no other reason than redundancy. Trying to restore AD in this
manner
will likely destroy all the accounts and wind up being a mess to restore.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


George Schneider said:
I have our current Dmain Controller in our main location that I'm
backing
up.
The DC is W2K as is our Domain. I'm having a problem running the
backup
even with compression where the backup is going on to a second tape. I
don't
get in early enough the next day to put the second tape to finish the
backup
before any use occurrs. We therefore get a few file in use errors on
some
of
the files.

The DC is partioned as follw C drive holds the OS and is the boot
partition.
Drive D holds all data. The DC also holds all operation master roles
as
well as running DNS and WINS and as well as being a Global Catalog
server.

My question is maybe I should alter the backup scheme. I want to
continue
to back up all data on drive D. My thought is do I have to backup
everything
on Drive C or would the System State be sufficent.

Whta wold I have to do in a disaster scenario where I lost the entire
server. I've worked out the following

1) Bring Up New Server
2) Load OS
3) Load Arcserver (backup software)
4) Promote Server to DC
5) Restore Files

Does this seem right?

I want to conserver state while making sure I have a legitamate full
backup
if possble.
 
G

Guest

I don't understand how thats an unanswerable question. The question is what
do i need to back up on the C drive in order to restore from backup in a
disaster scenario.

Richard G. Harper said:
That's an unanswerable question as asked. Please start your research here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...irectory/maintain/opsguide/part1/adogd03.mspx


--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


George Schneider said:
we have other domain controlers in our organization. My question really
is
what do i need to back up on the C (Primary partitionwhere the OS is
installed) drive?

What is a typicaly restore procedure if a DC was losat?

Richard G. Harper said:
That's not going to work very well, if at all. You really need a second
DC
if for no other reason than redundancy. Trying to restore AD in this
manner
will likely destroy all the accounts and wind up being a mess to restore.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


I have our current Dmain Controller in our main location that I'm
backing
up.
The DC is W2K as is our Domain. I'm having a problem running the
backup
even with compression where the backup is going on to a second tape. I
don't
get in early enough the next day to put the second tape to finish the
backup
before any use occurrs. We therefore get a few file in use errors on
some
of
the files.

The DC is partioned as follw C drive holds the OS and is the boot
partition.
Drive D holds all data. The DC also holds all operation master roles
as
well as running DNS and WINS and as well as being a Global Catalog
server.

My question is maybe I should alter the backup scheme. I want to
continue
to back up all data on drive D. My thought is do I have to backup
everything
on Drive C or would the System State be sufficent.

Whta wold I have to do in a disaster scenario where I lost the entire
server. I've worked out the following

1) Bring Up New Server
2) Load OS
3) Load Arcserver (backup software)
4) Promote Server to DC
5) Restore Files

Does this seem right?

I want to conserver state while making sure I have a legitamate full
backup
if possble.
 
R

Richard G. Harper

Read the link I gave you. You simply cannot restore an Active Directory
backup and expect everything to work afterwards.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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George Schneider said:
I don't understand how thats an unanswerable question. The question is
what
do i need to back up on the C drive in order to restore from backup in a
disaster scenario.

Richard G. Harper said:
That's an unanswerable question as asked. Please start your research
here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...irectory/maintain/opsguide/part1/adogd03.mspx


--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


George Schneider said:
we have other domain controlers in our organization. My question
really
is
what do i need to back up on the C (Primary partitionwhere the OS is
installed) drive?

What is a typicaly restore procedure if a DC was losat?

:

That's not going to work very well, if at all. You really need a
second
DC
if for no other reason than redundancy. Trying to restore AD in this
manner
will likely destroy all the accounts and wind up being a mess to
restore.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


I have our current Dmain Controller in our main location that I'm
backing
up.
The DC is W2K as is our Domain. I'm having a problem running the
backup
even with compression where the backup is going on to a second tape.
I
don't
get in early enough the next day to put the second tape to finish
the
backup
before any use occurrs. We therefore get a few file in use errors
on
some
of
the files.

The DC is partioned as follw C drive holds the OS and is the boot
partition.
Drive D holds all data. The DC also holds all operation master
roles
as
well as running DNS and WINS and as well as being a Global Catalog
server.

My question is maybe I should alter the backup scheme. I want to
continue
to back up all data on drive D. My thought is do I have to backup
everything
on Drive C or would the System State be sufficent.

Whta wold I have to do in a disaster scenario where I lost the
entire
server. I've worked out the following

1) Bring Up New Server
2) Load OS
3) Load Arcserver (backup software)
4) Promote Server to DC
5) Restore Files

Does this seem right?

I want to conserver state while making sure I have a legitamate full
backup
if possble.
 

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