Disk cloning question, again

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cmdrdata

It seemed that the disk clone that I created has all(?) the files that
I believe is on the original (smaller HD). But in my previous post i
mentioned that it would not boot. I created the copy using resident
XXCLONE in the boot drive and the clone is in a USB drive. Trying to
clone using UBCD dosn't work as when I bvoot from UBCD, it does not see
the USB drive. Any sugestion? TIA.
 
R

ron

are the jumpers on the 2nd hard drive in the correct position.
For it to boot you will have to set it for master............Ron
 
L

Larry Sabo

cmdrdata said:
It seemed that the disk clone that I created has all(?) the files that
I believe is on the original (smaller HD). But in my previous post i
mentioned that it would not boot. I created the copy using resident
XXCLONE in the boot drive and the clone is in a USB drive. Trying to
clone using UBCD dosn't work as when I bvoot from UBCD, it does not see
the USB drive. Any sugestion? TIA.

Assuming you have only one partition, I would try fixmbr and fixboot
from command console. If memory serves, it is recommended [somewhere]
to clone to drives that have first been set up as bootable.

Larry
 
D

David

It seemed that the disk clone that I created has all(?) the files that
I believe is on the original (smaller HD). But in my previous post i
mentioned that it would not boot. I created the copy using resident
XXCLONE in the boot drive and the clone is in a USB drive. Trying to
clone using UBCD dosn't work as when I bvoot from UBCD, it does not see
the USB drive. Any sugestion? TIA.

1. Check in fdisk that the boot partition is set to active.
2. With both drives in the machine try the 'sys' command to ensure
that operating files are transferred correctly to the second drive. eg
sys d:
3. Check that jumpers are set correctly for the drive. Sometimes
drives will not operate correctly if the jumper is left on and it is
the sole drive, other times the sole drive requires a jumper.
4. Check that the CMOS is registering the drive correctly. Make sure
you save and exit.
 
B

burris

Art said:
If memory serves, it is recommended [somewhere]
to clone to drives that have first been set up as bootable.


That's for XXCOPY and Win 9X/ME. XXCLONE (Win 2K/XP) takes care of
making the backup drive bootable.

Not only that, but if you also set up a multi boot.ini, you don't have
to change any jumpers...just select the drive to boot from the startup
menu.
 
A

Art

If memory serves, it is recommended [somewhere]
to clone to drives that have first been set up as bootable.

That's for XXCOPY and Win 9X/ME. XXCLONE (Win 2K/XP) takes care of
making the backup drive bootable.

Not only that, but if you also set up a multi boot.ini, you don't have
to change any jumpers...just select the drive to boot from the startup
menu.

Could you post a sample boot.ini file? I use Win 2K Pro. When I want
to Restore from backup drive HDD1 (secondary master) I change the
CMOS to boot first from HDD1. It would be nice if I could simply
select the working drive from the boot menu.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
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cmdrdata

Thanks to all who trid to help.
David, how do you check the fdisk thing? Do you bring up a cmd window
and then do fdisk while the clone disk is still inthe USB drive? Also,
since this is a laptop with the clone mounted viaUSB, there is no
jumpers in any ofthe 2.5" drive pins
Burris, I am not even doing multiboot or partition. This is a straight
drive (in my sys drive is c: (30BG), CD is D: and USB HD is E: (40GB)
whihc is the target clone (I formatted it first using XXCLONE disk mgmt
tool)
Art, how do you access the boot ini if I can't even boot from it? If I
mount it as a USB drive (botting from the original, can I see the
boot.ini in that USB drive? TIA again.
 
B

burris

Art said:
If memory serves, it is recommended [somewhere]
to clone to drives that have first been set up as bootable.

That's for XXCOPY and Win 9X/ME. XXCLONE (Win 2K/XP) takes care of
making the backup drive bootable.

Not only that, but if you also set up a multi boot.ini, you don't have
to change any jumpers...just select the drive to boot from the startup
menu.


Could you post a sample boot.ini file? I use Win 2K Pro. When I want
to Restore from backup drive HDD1 (secondary master) I change the
CMOS to boot first from HDD1. It would be nice if I could simply
select the working drive from the boot menu.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

This is what I use for three internal IDE HDD. You can take out whatever
you don't need or change it....I use XP Pro and have only one partition
on each drive.


[boot loader]
Timeout=10
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:0, Partition:1" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:1, Partition:1" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:2, Partition:1" /fastdetect
 
A

Art

This is what I use for three internal IDE HDD. You can take out whatever
you don't need or change it....I use XP Pro and have only one partition
on each drive.
[boot loader]
Timeout=10
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:0, Partition:1" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:1, Partition:1" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:2, Partition:1" /fastdetect

Thanks much, Burris. I Googled up the MS info on editing boot.ini for
Win 2K, and between that and your sample, I'm sure I'll have little
problem.

Art


http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
D

Dave C.

I noticed that Maxtor makes available a cloning software along with the
purchase of one of their drives (either packaged with the drive or off their
web site, not sure.)

Has anyone used it with what success?

--
Dave C.

(e-mail address removed)9et

Remove the five 9's (leave the 4) for email.
 
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David

Thanks to all who trid to help.
David, how do you check the fdisk thing? Do you bring up a cmd window
and then do fdisk while the clone disk is still inthe USB drive? Also,
since this is a laptop with the clone mounted viaUSB, there is no
jumpers in any ofthe 2.5" drive pins

That should work but I'm not sure of the vagaries of XP. If the drive
is registered by the OS as a fixed disk then that should be possible.
Otherwise install the drive in the machine, boot to an XP command
prompt (if that is possible) and run fdisk from there. Personally I
would tend to avoid the USB port for such things as cloning. Use the
CD cable to connect the drive. You don't need the CD for this
operation.
 
A

Art

This is what I use for three internal IDE HDD. You can take out whatever
you don't need or change it....I use XP Pro and have only one partition
on each drive.


[boot loader]
Timeout=10
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:0, Partition:1" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:1, Partition:1" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="MS Windows XP Vol: [],
Drive:2, Partition:1" /fastdetect

And the following works fine for me on Win 2K Pro with a cloned
bootable backup drive as HDD1 and secondary master :

[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Win 2K Pro HDD0 Primary"
/fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Win 2K Pro HDD1 Backup"
/fastdetect

Thanks again,

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 

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