Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

[Andrew]

I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems to
start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length of this posting):

1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F: My Computer > Hard Disk Letter >
Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left
panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, clicked
Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune Performance >
Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

2a. Instead of “Customize†in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About to
disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left
panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my
catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click
C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the right
panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and Settings\*\Application
Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were
already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not
including F:\.

4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click
Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply > OK

5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process
searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O
operations and then stops.

However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,
searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager and
take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few
seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is active.

When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few seconds
searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task Manager,
but searchindexer.exe stays.

The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three
processes from Task Manager.

Thank you in advance.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?

I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems
to
start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length of
this posting):

1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F: My Computer > Hard Disk Letter >
Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left
panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu,
clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune Performance
Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

2a. Instead of “Customize†in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About
to
disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left
panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my
catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click
C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the
right
panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and Settings\*\Application
Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were
already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not
including F:\.

4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click
Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply >
OK

5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process
searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O
operations and then stops.

However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,
searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager
and
take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few
seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is active.

When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few seconds
searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task
Manager,
but searchindexer.exe stays.

The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three
processes from Task Manager.

Thank you in advance.

 

[Andrew]

Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed (according to
Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this problem?

In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says
Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All
Programs; then click Windows Search.

I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the three
search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as long as
OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing processes.

Thanks again.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows Search's
options, Andrew. See Indexing section of
http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D
(applies to Windows Search 4.0)

 

[Andrew]

Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to match
what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside the
Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results pane

select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop Search

Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search History
(checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and Search
Web (unchecked).

I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer froze
and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was unchecked
(nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck it,
nothing happens.

If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane as
above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All Locations >
Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder called
My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder?

I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed up
beyond repair???

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=847&SiteID=1

 

[Andrew]

Thanks, PA Bear. I will repost as you suggested. But one last question here:
Do you see any problem with simply removing Windows Search 4.0 via Control
Panel, Add/Remove? I don't really need the Indexing Service.

Thanks for you help.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

In short: No.

Thanks, PA Bear. I will repost as you suggested. But one last question
here:
Do you see any problem with simply removing Windows Search 4.0 via Control
Panel, Add/Remove? I don't really need the Indexing Service.

Thanks for you help.