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SinSoul

Hello, I have this weird question, but I find it rather actual. I was
wondering, if it's possible to change desktop folder, I mean so that all
information with which I work on desktop would be stored not in C:\Documents
and set....\Desktop, but so that I could change the location of it. I need it
because it annoys me, each time to backup desktop, when I'm about to format C
disk to reinstall windows. Thank you in advance.
 
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Gray Brown

Maybe he wants to store his desktop settings on a flash drive or an external
hard drive or some such and then run off that somehow?
 
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Gary S. Terhune

The Real Truth MVP said:
Would you not still have to back it up even if it was somewhere else.

Of course he would, you slimy troll. It would just be easier if it was all
in one place that's easy to remember.the location of.

Seeing as you're the worst cyberstalker I've known, lately, you should know.
 
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Gary S. Terhune

1. Why in the world do you have to flatten (reformat/reinstall) your system
so often that you think this is a big issue? What are you doing so wrong
that this is required?

2. What items on the Desktop would you like to save? They are created in
different ways and located in different folders. You shouldn't need to worry
about the virtual links created by the Registry, as they are put there by
Windows and other apps (My Computer, My Documents, etc.) Nor should you
worry about applications' shortcuts, as they, too, can be recreated when the
apps are reinstalled. That leaves personal shortcuts, for instance if you
made one to a folder you created for a special project, to hold all the
project's documents. It also includes the files you unwisely have stored on
the Desktop, like downloaded installation files, or one of those special
project folders I mentioned a minute ago. If those are all you're worried
about, fine, they probably *are* all stored in C:\Documents &
Settings\[yourusername]\Desktop. (Most applications shortcuts will be in
C:\Documents & Settings\All Users\Desktop.)

3. What is so difficult about getting to C:\Documents &
Settings\[yourusername]\Desktop? Just how much simpler do you want the path
to be? C:\Desktop?

4. To move your personal folders, including the Desktop, first create the
folder you want (and you don't have to call it Desktop), then fix the path
here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell
Folders
(all one line from HKEY to Shell Folders.

5. Get ready for the fun when some stupid app that isn't programmed to look
in that Registry Key for the path they want to throw an error because it
can't find "C:\Documents and Users\[yourusername]\Desktop, though that can
be a lot more interesting with some of the other personal shell folders.

6. Get ready for more fun if you don't take the time and search for
'[yourusername]\Desktop" in the Registry and change them all to the new
location.

7. Even when you think you have it all figured out, be ready to be, er,
"upset" when two weeks of seeking an answer to a really weird problem turns
out to be due to your moving your personal Desktop folder. Take it from me,
I've tried it all.

Now, back to number 1., above. WTF?
 
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SinSoul

Gary S. Terhune said:
1. Why in the world do you have to flatten (reformat/reinstall) your system
so often that you think this is a big issue? What are you doing so wrong
that this is required?

2. What items on the Desktop would you like to save? They are created in
different ways and located in different folders. You shouldn't need to worry
about the virtual links created by the Registry, as they are put there by
Windows and other apps (My Computer, My Documents, etc.) Nor should you
worry about applications' shortcuts, as they, too, can be recreated when the
apps are reinstalled. That leaves personal shortcuts, for instance if you
made one to a folder you created for a special project, to hold all the
project's documents. It also includes the files you unwisely have stored on
the Desktop, like downloaded installation files, or one of those special
project folders I mentioned a minute ago. If those are all you're worried
about, fine, they probably *are* all stored in C:\Documents &
Settings\[yourusername]\Desktop. (Most applications shortcuts will be in
C:\Documents & Settings\All Users\Desktop.)

3. What is so difficult about getting to C:\Documents &
Settings\[yourusername]\Desktop? Just how much simpler do you want the path
to be? C:\Desktop?

4. To move your personal folders, including the Desktop, first create the
folder you want (and you don't have to call it Desktop), then fix the path
here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell
Folders
(all one line from HKEY to Shell Folders.

5. Get ready for the fun when some stupid app that isn't programmed to look
in that Registry Key for the path they want to throw an error because it
can't find "C:\Documents and Users\[yourusername]\Desktop, though that can
be a lot more interesting with some of the other personal shell folders.

6. Get ready for more fun if you don't take the time and search for
'[yourusername]\Desktop" in the Registry and change them all to the new
location.

7. Even when you think you have it all figured out, be ready to be, er,
"upset" when two weeks of seeking an answer to a really weird problem turns
out to be due to your moving your personal Desktop folder. Take it from me,
I've tried it all.

Now, back to number 1., above. WTF?

Why does it has to be a question, why do you need it? Of course I thank you,
I actually see the answer to my question and some scary stuff which makes me
to consider not doing it. My disk is divided, so I have C and D disks, so
when I reinstall my system, D disk remains unharmed. No I don't flatten
(reformat/reinstall) my system ofter, but yes it pisses me off even doing it
once a 3-5 months. I am student and have works tied with computers, so my
Desktop is overcrowded with different files(no shortcuts). In any case. many
thanks for your answer, but try to be more friendly next time =] Cheers.
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

I had no intention of being unfriendly, nor do I see where I was.
Straight-forward, perhaps, but if you see insult in my previous post, I
suggest that you look inwards at your own motives for thinking so. My
questions are those of a technician in search of answers. If you are
reinstalling your system every 3-5 months, you are doing things terribly
wrong. It's that simple. It's not an opinion, it's fact. And it's not the
computer's fault, it's yours.

It's a simple fact, not opinion, that you shouldn't crowd up the Desktop
with projects and lots of user data files (there are proper places for those
to be stored, and then you use shortcuts on the Desktop to reach them.) It's
also simple fact that you must be doing something(s) terribly incorrectly if
you require your machine to be flattened that often. From a technician's
point of view, I wish to know what it is that you are doing that requires
flattening (or makes you think it is required.) If we could fix those
issues, backing up the Desktop or moving it or any other Shell folders
(except My Documents) would be unnecessary.

Pointing out user error or bad habits is part of the job. If you're going to
take it personally, that's your right. It just won't make your computer run
any better, and that's the whole purpose of this newsgroup. Shall I consider
this a goodbye? Or would you like to discuss your computer maintenance
habits? I mean, I treat my own machine horribly, but I've never had to
flatten it. I've had two main XP systems running over the last six years (I
screwed up the mobo in some manner which I haven't yet had time to fully
diagnose, but I needed it replaced ASAP so I got new hardware and built a
new system), running a LOT of apps, including lots of installations of
crapware just so I can figure out what the source of a client's problem is,
and still, my machine, though it needs cleaning up on a regular basis due to
my being a slob, runs as well as it did when I first installed it (better,
actually.) Note that except for the Desktop and Address Book, there isn't
anything on my C:\ drive that can't be easily replaced. In other words, few
if any user files on C:\.

Why not at least store your Desktop projects in folders on D:\, with
shortcuts to them on the Desktop? One or two click and Voila!, your project
folder is open and ready for action.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

SinSoul said:
Gary S. Terhune said:
1. Why in the world do you have to flatten (reformat/reinstall) your
system
so often that you think this is a big issue? What are you doing so wrong
that this is required?

2. What items on the Desktop would you like to save? They are created in
different ways and located in different folders. You shouldn't need to
worry
about the virtual links created by the Registry, as they are put there by
Windows and other apps (My Computer, My Documents, etc.) Nor should you
worry about applications' shortcuts, as they, too, can be recreated when
the
apps are reinstalled. That leaves personal shortcuts, for instance if you
made one to a folder you created for a special project, to hold all the
project's documents. It also includes the files you unwisely have stored
on
the Desktop, like downloaded installation files, or one of those special
project folders I mentioned a minute ago. If those are all you're worried
about, fine, they probably *are* all stored in C:\Documents &
Settings\[yourusername]\Desktop. (Most applications shortcuts will be in
C:\Documents & Settings\All Users\Desktop.)

3. What is so difficult about getting to C:\Documents &
Settings\[yourusername]\Desktop? Just how much simpler do you want the
path
to be? C:\Desktop?

4. To move your personal folders, including the Desktop, first create the
folder you want (and you don't have to call it Desktop), then fix the
path
here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell
Folders
(all one line from HKEY to Shell Folders.

5. Get ready for the fun when some stupid app that isn't programmed to
look
in that Registry Key for the path they want to throw an error because it
can't find "C:\Documents and Users\[yourusername]\Desktop, though that
can
be a lot more interesting with some of the other personal shell folders.

6. Get ready for more fun if you don't take the time and search for
'[yourusername]\Desktop" in the Registry and change them all to the new
location.

7. Even when you think you have it all figured out, be ready to be, er,
"upset" when two weeks of seeking an answer to a really weird problem
turns
out to be due to your moving your personal Desktop folder. Take it from
me,
I've tried it all.

Now, back to number 1., above. WTF?

Why does it has to be a question, why do you need it? Of course I thank
you,
I actually see the answer to my question and some scary stuff which makes
me
to consider not doing it. My disk is divided, so I have C and D disks, so
when I reinstall my system, D disk remains unharmed. No I don't flatten
(reformat/reinstall) my system ofter, but yes it pisses me off even doing
it
once a 3-5 months. I am student and have works tied with computers, so my
Desktop is overcrowded with different files(no shortcuts). In any case.
many
thanks for your answer, but try to be more friendly next time =] Cheers.
 
S

SinSoul

Sorry if I insulted you by that, I didn't meant unfriendly, rather strict =]
Anyway, well 3-5 months it's kinda not true. Current system stands for about
1 year, but it's heavily damaged by recent virus attacks, because my
{censored} antivirus let them all in. My machine is overcrowded with files
and when I open D disk it scares me...how hard it would be to clean that mess
up. Folders, files all in chaotic way. That's why I hold my college stuff on
desktop. And I've asked for help in changing desktop folder, because I strain
system so much sometimes, that eventually it's not able to load anymore(not
even in safe mode), had it 2 times already and lost some of my critical
needed projects. Holding in separate folder on disk D, linking it to the
desktop? Yes, maybe it's most efficient, but which is really odd for me, I
don't like that. Currently I am using XP operating system, but my PC is
designed for Vista(some of my PC functions doesn't work properly on XP). I am
ought to change OS to Vista(again, first try was awful, crashes and not
stability was second name for Vista), this time I am going to try again(may
the power of updates help me), but if it won't change and will be same crash
monster, I'll get back to XP, that's why I predict several reinstalls in
short period. Quite intriguing what could you suggest, to keep my PC in good
health. I would gladly listen up for what you'd suggest me. Thank you in
advance.

P.S. Forgive me for my crappy English.
 
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Gary S. Terhune

First thing I have to ask is what your system specs are. Make/Model, etc.
What your hard drive and partitioning scheme is. But when it comes to
keeping your files organized, that's something I may be able to make
suggestions on, but again, I'd have to know how you're doing it now. Believe
me, my system is quite disorganized, too, but I have lots of disk space.

How much disk space do you have, and how is it organized? (And don't forget
to post your hardware specs.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

SinSoul said:
Sorry if I insulted you by that, I didn't meant unfriendly, rather strict
=]
Anyway, well 3-5 months it's kinda not true. Current system stands for
about
1 year, but it's heavily damaged by recent virus attacks, because my
{censored} antivirus let them all in. My machine is overcrowded with files
and when I open D disk it scares me...how hard it would be to clean that
mess
up. Folders, files all in chaotic way. That's why I hold my college stuff
on
desktop. And I've asked for help in changing desktop folder, because I
strain
system so much sometimes, that eventually it's not able to load
anymore(not
even in safe mode), had it 2 times already and lost some of my critical
needed projects. Holding in separate folder on disk D, linking it to the
desktop? Yes, maybe it's most efficient, but which is really odd for me, I
don't like that. Currently I am using XP operating system, but my PC is
designed for Vista(some of my PC functions doesn't work properly on XP). I
am
ought to change OS to Vista(again, first try was awful, crashes and not
stability was second name for Vista), this time I am going to try
again(may
the power of updates help me), but if it won't change and will be same
crash
monster, I'll get back to XP, that's why I predict several reinstalls in
short period. Quite intriguing what could you suggest, to keep my PC in
good
health. I would gladly listen up for what you'd suggest me. Thank you in
advance.

P.S. Forgive me for my crappy English.

Gary S. Terhune said:
I had no intention of being unfriendly, nor do I see where I was.
Straight-forward, perhaps, but if you see insult in my previous post, I
suggest that you look inwards at your own motives for thinking so. My
questions are those of a technician in search of answers. If you are
reinstalling your system every 3-5 months, you are doing things terribly
wrong. It's that simple. It's not an opinion, it's fact. And it's not the
computer's fault, it's yours.

It's a simple fact, not opinion, that you shouldn't crowd up the Desktop
with projects and lots of user data files (there are proper places for
those
to be stored, and then you use shortcuts on the Desktop to reach them.)
It's
also simple fact that you must be doing something(s) terribly incorrectly
if
you require your machine to be flattened that often. From a technician's
point of view, I wish to know what it is that you are doing that requires
flattening (or makes you think it is required.) If we could fix those
issues, backing up the Desktop or moving it or any other Shell folders
(except My Documents) would be unnecessary.

Pointing out user error or bad habits is part of the job. If you're going
to
take it personally, that's your right. It just won't make your computer
run
any better, and that's the whole purpose of this newsgroup. Shall I
consider
this a goodbye? Or would you like to discuss your computer maintenance
habits? I mean, I treat my own machine horribly, but I've never had to
flatten it. I've had two main XP systems running over the last six years
(I
screwed up the mobo in some manner which I haven't yet had time to fully
diagnose, but I needed it replaced ASAP so I got new hardware and built a
new system), running a LOT of apps, including lots of installations of
crapware just so I can figure out what the source of a client's problem
is,
and still, my machine, though it needs cleaning up on a regular basis due
to
my being a slob, runs as well as it did when I first installed it
(better,
actually.) Note that except for the Desktop and Address Book, there isn't
anything on my C:\ drive that can't be easily replaced. In other words,
few
if any user files on C:\.

Why not at least store your Desktop projects in folders on D:\, with
shortcuts to them on the Desktop? One or two click and Voila!, your
project
folder is open and ready for action.
 
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SinSoul

Many thanks for your help.
Here are my spec:
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T7700 2.4 GHz
4 GB of DDRRam
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M G 256 Ram
150 GB Hard disk space(SATA AHCI)

Sorry if I mistake about the scheme, I hope I got it right:
C(system) disk - NTFS. Type - Basic. Capacity - 39,06 GB, Free - 8,76 GB.
D disk - NTFS. Type - Basic. Capacity - 109,99 GB, Free - 10,53 GB.

Remind me if I forgot anything and thanks again!
 
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Gary S. Terhune

Go buy yourself another disk. Put it in. Then we'll talk about how to
rearrange your files. You don't have enough free space left on that system
and I get the impression you have no real intention of *shrinking* the
amount of data you hold on to. Hard drives are just plain cheap these days.

Get as big a disk as you can afford, because you need lots of space, I can
tell. I will offer no recommendations. Be sure to carefully review the
manual before adding a drive or drives. Is this a homebuilt or whitebox or
brand-name or what? When I asked for specs, although what you gave was
useful, I meant to ask if you have you a make/model number of the machine or
motherboard? It helps when we offer advice if we can know *exactly* what we
are dealing with. For example, I have a homebuilt with an Asus P5B Deluxe
motherboard with wireless broadcasting. I have another old system that's a
Compaq Presario 5735. I've recently been working with a Dell XPS 420. That
is the info I seek.

And check before you head to the store: how many additional slots do you
have for internal 3 1/2" hard drives? Other empty bays (places to install a
drive), 3.5" or 5.25"? Also, how many power connectors are there free for
use? Will you need to split one or more? Better to know as much as you can
before you decide what to purchase, and don't forget to take the manual with
you (or at least printouts of the pertinent parts.)
 
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SinSoul

This PC is laptop and I'm ought to clean the mess up, I mean delete half of
unused files, such like watched film, etc. This model is remake of some
brand-name model. Our local computer resellers have changed the name it and
model name to their company name. I know that because aarc models does not
exist, do they? Also drivers in the cd are for asus computer. All that
previous info about hardware spec, that's all I could take out, because I
don't have any spec and I'm afraid that I won't be able to find the model.
With this PC I got only warranty, no any additional info. Yeah sounds stupid,
but when I was buying PC, I was thinking about easy to use. In any case, I'll
try to find out all I can, but it might take time. In any case, thank you.
I'll report as fast as I'll do everything you said.
 

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