DeriveParameters

[Guest]

I understand when I add a paramete like (name, value)

p = new SqlParameter("@someINT", 111);

that behind the sceens, a trip to the db is made to derive the parameter.

When creating a parameter what values must be specified to prevent the trip
to the server? For example below the size property is not specified. Does
that mean a trip will occur?


p = new SqlParameter("@RETURN_VALUE", SqlDbType.Int);
p.Direction = ParameterDirection.ReturnValue;
cmd.Parameters.Add(p);

thanks,

 

[William \(Bill\) Vaughn]

What makes you think that ADO.NET makes this round trip? None of my books
say so... While ADO classic once made round trips for this sort of thing
(under special circumstances), it does not happen in ADO.NET. The only
round-tripping done by ADO.NET is when you use the CommandBuilder or
DeriveParameters (specifically). You aren't doing so in this case...

hth

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[Guest]

So what's the point of all the parameter overloads for
parameter type, size?

 

[William \(Bill\) Vaughn]

Ah, those are there so your code can define the properties of the input
Parameter object. These don't actually have to be defined. Just use the
AddValue method.

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[Guest]

So I can get an exception if I put in the wrong datatype in the value at
runtime?
Seems odd because they are sql types and not framework types. So to
evaluate on the framework side at runtime it would have to know how to
convert and I believe the framework does not know how to do that?

What's the purpose of specifing the direction parameter (e.g. output) and
length then?

SQL server sticks in the parameter @RETURN_VALUE automagically.
So why do I have to specify output parameters?

I am confused.

 

[William \(Bill\) Vaughn]

Nope. That's ADO classic that does that. ADO.NET does not throw an exception
when you assign a value to the Value property. The ReturnValue and Output
Direction settings are required to fetch the returned values. The Input
Direction (the default) is required for all SP Parameters that don't have a
defined default in the SP declaration (on the server). These issues and
behaviors are discussed in (great) detail in chapters 2, 5 and 10 of my new
book.
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[Chuck]

Say I have a stored proc that only returns a value and the stored
procedure says the parameter is output.

If either I don't declare the parameter or I don't give it a value,
I will get an exception.
If I declare the parameter and give it an Output direction, I don't
need to give it a value.

I will get two parameters back the one I declared and @RETURN_VALUE

Just seems funny that you have SET properties for type and length if
they are just ignored by the framework.

 

[William \(Bill\) Vaughn]

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[William \(Bill\) Vaughn]

See inline>>>

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Say I have a stored proc that only returns a value and the stored
procedure says the parameter is output.

If either I don't declare the parameter or I don't give it a value,
I will get an exception.

If I declare the parameter and give it an Output direction, I don't
need to give it a value.

 

[WenYuan Wang]

Hi Chuck

Just want to check if there is anything I can help with.
Please feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,
WenYuan