denied access from main computer

G

Guest

have installed home network on 3 computers and am not allowed access to main
computer-the one that has the wireless router and modem. other 2 computers
work w/ each other
 
B

Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]

am not allowed access to main computer-the one that has the wireless
router and modem. <<

Can you say more about how your system is set up and how you access the
internet?

I'm guessing that the perhaps the computer that you are referring to is
running ICS as a "Wireless Router" is normally an independant device
that serves all computers on the network and is not associated with any
specific computer.

If not, redoing the layout might be in order. Might be able to help
more with more information.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
 
G

Guest

i have dsl service w/ linksys wireless router w/ wetfell modem that is
connected to main computer w/ ethernet cable; system is xp home w/ sp2.
laptop has built in wireless and configured to main computer; system is xp
home w/sp2. last computer is desktop with wireless and configured to main
computer; system is xp pro w/sp2.
problem is that printers are shared, files are shared except those residing
router and modem. <<

Can you say more about how your system is set up and how you access the
internet?

I'm guessing that the perhaps the computer that you are referring to is
running ICS as a "Wireless Router" is normally an independant device
that serves all computers on the network and is not associated with any
specific computer.

If not, redoing the layout might be in order. Might be able to help
more with more information.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
 
B

Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]

configured to main computer <<

Can you clarify that statement? Is your "main computer" running ICS
(Internet connection Sharing?)

With the equipment you describe, I'm guessing that the reason you are
having other computers access via your "main computer" is that it is
running a pppoe client and doing the login to your dsl provider.

Your linksys wireless router _should_ have the ability to do the pppoe
client login to your dsl provider, and, after it does, all computers on
your network can be configured to "obtain an ip automatically" and
connected to the router by cable or wifi.

In that setup the connection sequence will look similar to the ascii
drawing at http://bevhoward.com/NetWk.htm#Wireless where your linksys
would be where the NG614 is there ("Internet" is the cable/dsl modem) i.e.;

telephoneline->cablemodem->linksys->computers

In your description, the linksys is "behind" the main computer and that
would explain why the other computers can't "see" it.

hope this clarifies,
Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]


========setup========

i have dsl service w/ linksys wireless router w/ wetfell modem that is
connected to main computer w/ ethernet cable; system is xp home w/ sp2.
laptop has built in wireless and configured to main computer; system is xp
home w/sp2. last computer is desktop with wireless and configured to main
computer; system is xp pro w/sp2.
problem is that printers are shared, files are shared except those residing
on main computer-access is denied to it but it can access the other 2
computers
 
B

Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]

one other note, you may want to have the linksys report your "main
computer's" mac address as part of the login.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
 
G

Guest

configured to main computer is running the wizard to set up home office network

how do i check if ICS is running?

aloha,
peter

Beverly Howard said:
Can you clarify that statement? Is your "main computer" running ICS
(Internet connection Sharing?)

With the equipment you describe, I'm guessing that the reason you are
having other computers access via your "main computer" is that it is
running a pppoe client and doing the login to your dsl provider.

Your linksys wireless router _should_ have the ability to do the pppoe
client login to your dsl provider, and, after it does, all computers on
your network can be configured to "obtain an ip automatically" and
connected to the router by cable or wifi.

In that setup the connection sequence will look similar to the ascii
drawing at http://bevhoward.com/NetWk.htm#Wireless where your linksys
would be where the NG614 is there ("Internet" is the cable/dsl modem) i.e.;

telephoneline->cablemodem->linksys->computers

In your description, the linksys is "behind" the main computer and that
would explain why the other computers can't "see" it.

hope this clarifies,
Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]


========setup========

i have dsl service w/ linksys wireless router w/ wetfell modem that is
connected to main computer w/ ethernet cable; system is xp home w/ sp2.
laptop has built in wireless and configured to main computer; system is xp
home w/sp2. last computer is desktop with wireless and configured to main
computer; system is xp pro w/sp2.
problem is that printers are shared, files are shared except those residing
on main computer-access is denied to it but it can access the other 2
computers
 
G

Guest

the 2 other computers are not running through main computer, rather they use
the router for internet access; because main computer can be off and system
works, also am able to communicate w/ other computer on system when main is
off-problem is can't communicate w/ main computer-access denied. am i being
denied by the main computer or the router?
aloha,
peter

Beverly Howard said:
Can you clarify that statement? Is your "main computer" running ICS
(Internet connection Sharing?)

With the equipment you describe, I'm guessing that the reason you are
having other computers access via your "main computer" is that it is
running a pppoe client and doing the login to your dsl provider.

Your linksys wireless router _should_ have the ability to do the pppoe
client login to your dsl provider, and, after it does, all computers on
your network can be configured to "obtain an ip automatically" and
connected to the router by cable or wifi.

In that setup the connection sequence will look similar to the ascii
drawing at http://bevhoward.com/NetWk.htm#Wireless where your linksys
would be where the NG614 is there ("Internet" is the cable/dsl modem) i.e.;

telephoneline->cablemodem->linksys->computers

In your description, the linksys is "behind" the main computer and that
would explain why the other computers can't "see" it.

hope this clarifies,
Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]


========setup========

i have dsl service w/ linksys wireless router w/ wetfell modem that is
connected to main computer w/ ethernet cable; system is xp home w/ sp2.
laptop has built in wireless and configured to main computer; system is xp
home w/sp2. last computer is desktop with wireless and configured to main
computer; system is xp pro w/sp2.
problem is that printers are shared, files are shared except those residing
on main computer-access is denied to it but it can access the other 2
computers
 
B

Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]

I'm still having a problem visualizing how you have things wired... for
my benefit, please put the following items in the order that they are
connected... in my example below is how things would normally be
connected with the modem connected to the "WAN" port on the router and
the three computers should each be connected to the wireless router's
network ports.

telephone line
|
dsl modem
|
wireless router
| | |
| | \main computer
| |
| \computer 2
|
\computer 3

You indicate that you have set up the main computer to be on the
network... do you have a shared folder on that computer such as "shared
documents" and have you set the printers connected to that computer as
"shared?"

onward! (which island?)
Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
 
G

Guest

yes, just as your drawing indicates; ethernet cable from router to main
computer, wireless from computers 2 & 3 to dsl modem. from main computer i
can access shared files on computers 2 &3. cannot acces files on main
computer from computers 2 & 3. shared printer is on computer 2 and can access
from all three computers. only access denied if attempting to access main
computer.
located on the big island of hawaii
aloha,
peter

Beverly Howard said:
I'm still having a problem visualizing how you have things wired... for
my benefit, please put the following items in the order that they are
connected... in my example below is how things would normally be
connected with the modem connected to the "WAN" port on the router and
the three computers should each be connected to the wireless router's
network ports.

telephone line
|
dsl modem
|
wireless router
| | |
| | \main computer
| |
| \computer 2
|
\computer 3

You indicate that you have set up the main computer to be on the
network... do you have a shared folder on that computer such as "shared
documents" and have you set the printers connected to that computer as
"shared?"

onward! (which island?)
Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
 
G

Guest

I've had exactly the same problem, and Hans-George's site sorted it - after
16 hours trying everything I could think of and find.

Go to his site, or try this:

You have all the following symptoms:

You can ping the computer by IP and by name.
When you type: net view \\computername, you get the error message, "Error 5:
You do not currently have access to this file. The file may be marked
read-only, or it may be part of a shared resource such as a folder, a named
pipe, a queue, or a semaphore. You can use the ATTRIB command to change the
read-only attribute, or try again later when the file may be available."
This is in some cases caused by a registry setting named RestrictAnonymous.
Go to the computer which you cannot access, start a registry editor and
change the following registry value.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
\SYSTEM
\CurrentControlSet
\Control
\Lsa
Value name: RestrictAnonymous
Value type: DWORD

If the value is 1 or even 2, change it to 0, reboot and retest. If the
problem is solved, leave the value at zero. If not, you can change it back if
you like.

Background: RestrictAnonymous controls whether null sessions, sessions that
work without any authentication and use the permissions of the groups
Everyone and NETWORK, are allowed (value 0) or disallowed (value 1). The
value 2 is obsolete for Windows XP.

Don't mistake this for the value named restrictanonymoussam, which controls
null session SAM account name listings.

The man is a GENIUS!
 
B

Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]

I'm a bit stumped (primarily because most of my net problem experience
predates XP)

from dos (start/run/cmd) from a computer that can't see the main
computer and try the command;

net use \\<maincomputername>

(replace "<maincomputername>" with your main computer's name without the
"<>")

If it completes successfully, return to file explorer and see if you can
access it's shares from there.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
 
G

Guest

i get error 1385 i'm being access altogether

kipper5 said:
I've had exactly the same problem, and Hans-George's site sorted it - after
16 hours trying everything I could think of and find.

Go to his site, or try this:

You have all the following symptoms:

You can ping the computer by IP and by name.
When you type: net view \\computername, you get the error message, "Error 5:
You do not currently have access to this file. The file may be marked
read-only, or it may be part of a shared resource such as a folder, a named
pipe, a queue, or a semaphore. You can use the ATTRIB command to change the
read-only attribute, or try again later when the file may be available."
This is in some cases caused by a registry setting named RestrictAnonymous.
Go to the computer which you cannot access, start a registry editor and
change the following registry value.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
\SYSTEM
\CurrentControlSet
\Control
\Lsa
Value name: RestrictAnonymous
Value type: DWORD

If the value is 1 or even 2, change it to 0, reboot and retest. If the
problem is solved, leave the value at zero. If not, you can change it back if
you like.

Background: RestrictAnonymous controls whether null sessions, sessions that
work without any authentication and use the permissions of the groups
Everyone and NETWORK, are allowed (value 0) or disallowed (value 1). The
value 2 is obsolete for Windows XP.

Don't mistake this for the value named restrictanonymoussam, which controls
null session SAM account name listings.

The man is a GENIUS!

Beverly Howard said:
one other note, you may want to have the linksys report your "main
computer's" mac address as part of the login.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
 
G

Guest

cannot access gpedit.msc to check assigned user rights-sorry i emailed you on
this matter before reading request of no mail! also i noticed that my 2
wireless computers have wireless connection enabled and that the main
computer has lan enabled-does the other 2 computers need lan enabled because
main computer set up from router w/ ethernet?
aloha,
peter
 
H

Hans-Georg Michna

"Hans-Georg Michna" wrote:
cannot access gpedit.msc to check assigned user rights

Peter,

I have no solution for Windows XP Home, unfortunately. Wish I
had. Except perhaps uninstalling all third party security
software, but even that may not repair the damage.
also i noticed that my 2
wireless computers have wireless connection enabled and that the main
computer has lan enabled-does the other 2 computers need lan enabled because
main computer set up from router w/ ethernet?

No, that should not matter. Normally you can run computers over
wire or wireless as you like.

Hans-Georg
 
G

Guest

hans,
net bios mode on main computer is set to broadcast, computer 2 set to
hybrid?, main computer under connections has incoming calls enabled?
aloha,
peter
 
G

Guest

so as it stands-the only way to properly address this problem is load xp pro
on the main computer?
aloha,
peter
 
H

Hans-Georg Michna

so as it stands-the only way to properly address this problem is load xp pro
on the main computer?

Peter,

perhaps somebody else knows a solution. Only I don't know one.

Which third-party software that has to do with the network is
installed on the main computer? Have you tried to uninstall it?
Anything called Norton? Any third-party firewall, antivirus
program, proxy server? If you uninstall all these and the
problem remains, then I have no further ideas.

Hans-Georg
 

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