Deleting Parent folder and keeping the subfolders

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Ravi Verma

Hi,

I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many folders
containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want to redesign
the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders and then
renaming them. Let me put a situation here:

say my folder structure is like this:
c:\Myfolder\accounts
now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove the My
folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from accounts. I
want to make it C:\accounts. I normally do it like this I copy the subfolder
accounts (c:\Myfolder\accounts) to c:\accounts and then delete the Myfolder.
but it takes lot of time and I am looking for a way so that I don't need to
copy it instead, I can just remove Myfolder entry from registry or somewhere
else.
Is it possible?

Regards,
Ravi Verma
 
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Ravi Verma

Thanks very much everybody. It seems everyone is saying the same thing with
the difference the Phil Weldon has explained it in a very simple manner. I
was doing it the harder way by using copy-paste instead of using move. Ok
now I would like to ask. Is "Move" and "Send to" are the same? If yes can I
customize the "Send To" (which we get by right clicking on any file or
folder) to include my folders. Will not that make my work lot easier? I was
doing it Win 98 just by creating shortcuts of my folders and putting them in
the "Send To" folder. But I am not being able to find the "Send To" folder
in Windows XP Pro.


Regards,
Ravi Verma
 
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Ravi Verma

Hi,

One more question regarding "Move to folder" moving files or folders between
two partitions is same as copy paste or what?

Say I have a folder accounts ie. c:\myfolders\accounts and now i want to
move the accounts folder to d:\newfolder. Can I use move here or it is same
as copy-pasting?

Moreover, I cannot find "Move" option on right clicking or no pop-up appears
if I drag and drop in windows explorer. Only I get this option in Edit menu
in Windows Explorer.

Regards,
Ravi Verma
 
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Ravi Verma

Phil Weldon, I am sorry to say that you have got a wrong name "Phil Weldon"
it should have been "Phil Wisdom". You are excellent. Your knowledge and the
ability to explain is above par.

Thanks very much and now I have got my reply.

Regards,
Ravi Verma
 
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philo

Ravi said:
Hi,

I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many folders
containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want to redesign
the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders and then
renaming them. Let me put a situation here:

say my folder structure is like this:
c:\Myfolder\accounts
now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove the My
folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from accounts. I
want to make it C:\accounts. I normally do it like this I copy the subfolder
accounts (c:\Myfolder\accounts) to c:\accounts and then delete the Myfolder.
but it takes lot of time and I am looking for a way so that I don't need to
copy it instead, I can just remove Myfolder entry from registry or somewhere
else.
Is it possible?

AFAIK that's not possible...but it should not take too long to move them
 
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Larry Samuels

You are doing it the hard way.
In explorer rt-click on the c:\Myfolder\accounts folder and drag it to c:\
Click "move here" on the popup dialog
Delete c:\Myfolder


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Phil Weldon

'Ravi Verma' wrote, in part:
| I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many folders
| containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want to
redesign
| the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders and then
| renaming them. Let me put a situation here:
|
| say my folder structure is like this:
| c:\Myfolder\accounts
| now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove the My
| folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from accounts. I
| want to make it C:\accounts.
_____

Just in case I have not understood your question correctly, it has nothing
to do with 'My Documents', right?

When you move files (or a file structure) from one folder to another in the
same disk and partition the files are not really moved. The pointers in the
directory are changed to reflect the new LOGICAL location; the PHYSICAL
location does not change. Several thousand files totaling ten GBytes in a
number of folders all under one upper level folder name can be 'moved' to a
new folder in a few seconds because all that changes is the logical
assignment, not the physical location. The trick is to MOVE the files and
folder structure, not COPY - copy DOES make a duplicate of all the files and
folder structure in a new physical location.

In Windows Explorer select (in your example) the folder C:\Myfolder\accounts
and MOVE it to C:\ (if there is not already a C:\accounts folder.)
If there is already a C:\accounts folder then use the shift key and mouse to
select all the subfolders and files under C:\Myfolder\account)

Right click on the selection and choose 'Move' to C:\accounts . Then you
may delete the now empty folder C:\Myfolder\accounts.

The entire process will take a few seconds.

Phil Weldon

| Hi,
|
| I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many folders
| containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want to
redesign
| the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders and then
| renaming them. Let me put a situation here:
|
| say my folder structure is like this:
| c:\Myfolder\accounts
| now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove the My
| folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from accounts. I
| want to make it C:\accounts. I normally do it like this I copy the
subfolder
| accounts (c:\Myfolder\accounts) to c:\accounts and then delete the
Myfolder.
| but it takes lot of time and I am looking for a way so that I don't need
to
| copy it instead, I can just remove Myfolder entry from registry or
somewhere
| else.
| Is it possible?
|
| Regards,
| Ravi Verma
|
|
 
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Phil Weldon

'Ravi Verma' wrote:
| One more question regarding "Move to folder" moving files or folders
between
| two partitions is same as copy paste or what?
|
| Say I have a folder accounts ie. c:\myfolders\accounts and now i want to
| move the accounts folder to d:\newfolder. Can I use move here or it is
same
| as copy-pasting?
|
| Moreover, I cannot find "Move" option on right clicking or no pop-up
appears
| if I drag and drop in windows explorer. Only I get this option in Edit
menu
| in Windows Explorer.
_____

#2. You get the option to move, copy or 'create shortcut' AFTER you drag
and drop if you use a right click for the drag and drop.

#1. If you move the 'accounts' subfolder of C:\myfolders\accounts to
D:\newfolder to make D:\newfolder\accounts the move is to a new PHYSICAL
location. C: and D: are either two partitions on a single drive (two
different physical areas of the drive) or two different drives. A copy and
a move perform the same function, except that a move deletes the files and
file structure from the old PHYSICAL location. Transferring 10 GBytes
containing file structures and several thousand files to a new PHYSICAL
location will take several minutes. Deleting the old material takes only a
few seconds because the disk file management just marks the space empty. The
data is still there, but it is no longer linked to anything, and is
available for reuse (that's why delete files can sometimes be recovered,
especially if the recovery is done very soon after the deletion.) The
'Recycle' bin is used to temporarily maintain the old data until the space
is needed.

#0. From your previous post: 'send to' is a 'move'.

Phil Weldon

| Hi,
|
| One more question regarding "Move to folder" moving files or folders
between
| two partitions is same as copy paste or what?
|
| Say I have a folder accounts ie. c:\myfolders\accounts and now i want to
| move the accounts folder to d:\newfolder. Can I use move here or it is
same
| as copy-pasting?
|
| Moreover, I cannot find "Move" option on right clicking or no pop-up
appears
| if I drag and drop in windows explorer. Only I get this option in Edit
menu
| in Windows Explorer.
|
| Regards,
| Ravi Verma
| | > 'Ravi Verma' wrote, in part:
| > | I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many
folders
| > | containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want to
| > redesign
| > | the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders and
| > then
| > | renaming them. Let me put a situation here:
| > |
| > | say my folder structure is like this:
| > | c:\Myfolder\accounts
| > | now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove the My
| > | folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from
accounts.
| > I
| > | want to make it C:\accounts.
| > _____
| >
| > Just in case I have not understood your question correctly, it has
nothing
| > to do with 'My Documents', right?
| >
| > When you move files (or a file structure) from one folder to another in
| > the
| > same disk and partition the files are not really moved. The pointers in
| > the
| > directory are changed to reflect the new LOGICAL location; the PHYSICAL
| > location does not change. Several thousand files totaling ten GBytes in
a
| > number of folders all under one upper level folder name can be 'moved'
to
| > a
| > new folder in a few seconds because all that changes is the logical
| > assignment, not the physical location. The trick is to MOVE the files
and
| > folder structure, not COPY - copy DOES make a duplicate of all the files
| > and
| > folder structure in a new physical location.
| >
| > In Windows Explorer select (in your example) the folder
| > C:\Myfolder\accounts
| > and MOVE it to C:\ (if there is not already a C:\accounts folder.)
| > If there is already a C:\accounts folder then use the shift key and
mouse
| > to
| > select all the subfolders and files under C:\Myfolder\account)
| >
| > Right click on the selection and choose 'Move' to C:\accounts . Then
you
| > may delete the now empty folder C:\Myfolder\accounts.
| >
| > The entire process will take a few seconds.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > | > | Hi,
| > |
| > | I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many
folders
| > | containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want to
| > redesign
| > | the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders and
| > then
| > | renaming them. Let me put a situation here:
| > |
| > | say my folder structure is like this:
| > | c:\Myfolder\accounts
| > | now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove the My
| > | folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from
accounts.
| > I
| > | want to make it C:\accounts. I normally do it like this I copy the
| > subfolder
| > | accounts (c:\Myfolder\accounts) to c:\accounts and then delete the
| > Myfolder.
| > | but it takes lot of time and I am looking for a way so that I don't
need
| > to
| > | copy it instead, I can just remove Myfolder entry from registry or
| > somewhere
| > | else.
| > | Is it possible?
| > |
| > | Regards,
| > | Ravi Verma
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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Phil Weldon

Phil Weldon wrote, in part:
| #2. You get the option to move, copy or 'create shortcut' AFTER you drag
| and drop if you use a right click for the drag and drop.
_____

Sorry, to get the choice of moving or copying for drag and drop you should
use a right click and HOLD, not just a right click, which opens a much
longer list of options. Right click and hold, then drag and drop, and a
menu will open giving the choice of copy, move, or create shortcut.

Phil Weldon

| 'Ravi Verma' wrote:
|| One more question regarding "Move to folder" moving files or folders
| between
|| two partitions is same as copy paste or what?
||
|| Say I have a folder accounts ie. c:\myfolders\accounts and now i want to
|| move the accounts folder to d:\newfolder. Can I use move here or it is
| same
|| as copy-pasting?
||
|| Moreover, I cannot find "Move" option on right clicking or no pop-up
| appears
|| if I drag and drop in windows explorer. Only I get this option in Edit
| menu
|| in Windows Explorer.
| _____
|
| #2. You get the option to move, copy or 'create shortcut' AFTER you drag
| and drop if you use a right click for the drag and drop.
|
| #1. If you move the 'accounts' subfolder of C:\myfolders\accounts to
| D:\newfolder to make D:\newfolder\accounts the move is to a new PHYSICAL
| location. C: and D: are either two partitions on a single drive (two
| different physical areas of the drive) or two different drives. A copy
and
| a move perform the same function, except that a move deletes the files and
| file structure from the old PHYSICAL location. Transferring 10 GBytes
| containing file structures and several thousand files to a new PHYSICAL
| location will take several minutes. Deleting the old material takes only
a
| few seconds because the disk file management just marks the space empty.
The
| data is still there, but it is no longer linked to anything, and is
| available for reuse (that's why delete files can sometimes be recovered,
| especially if the recovery is done very soon after the deletion.) The
| 'Recycle' bin is used to temporarily maintain the old data until the space
| is needed.
|
| #0. From your previous post: 'send to' is a 'move'.
|
| Phil Weldon
|
| || Hi,
||
|| One more question regarding "Move to folder" moving files or folders
| between
|| two partitions is same as copy paste or what?
||
|| Say I have a folder accounts ie. c:\myfolders\accounts and now i want to
|| move the accounts folder to d:\newfolder. Can I use move here or it is
| same
|| as copy-pasting?
||
|| Moreover, I cannot find "Move" option on right clicking or no pop-up
| appears
|| if I drag and drop in windows explorer. Only I get this option in Edit
| menu
|| in Windows Explorer.
||
|| Regards,
|| Ravi Verma
|| || > 'Ravi Verma' wrote, in part:
|| > | I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many
| folders
|| > | containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want to
|| > redesign
|| > | the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders and
|| > then
|| > | renaming them. Let me put a situation here:
|| > |
|| > | say my folder structure is like this:
|| > | c:\Myfolder\accounts
|| > | now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove the
My
|| > | folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from
| accounts.
|| > I
|| > | want to make it C:\accounts.
|| > _____
|| >
|| > Just in case I have not understood your question correctly, it has
| nothing
|| > to do with 'My Documents', right?
|| >
|| > When you move files (or a file structure) from one folder to another in
|| > the
|| > same disk and partition the files are not really moved. The pointers
in
|| > the
|| > directory are changed to reflect the new LOGICAL location; the PHYSICAL
|| > location does not change. Several thousand files totaling ten GBytes
in
| a
|| > number of folders all under one upper level folder name can be 'moved'
| to
|| > a
|| > new folder in a few seconds because all that changes is the logical
|| > assignment, not the physical location. The trick is to MOVE the files
| and
|| > folder structure, not COPY - copy DOES make a duplicate of all the
files
|| > and
|| > folder structure in a new physical location.
|| >
|| > In Windows Explorer select (in your example) the folder
|| > C:\Myfolder\accounts
|| > and MOVE it to C:\ (if there is not already a C:\accounts folder.)
|| > If there is already a C:\accounts folder then use the shift key and
| mouse
|| > to
|| > select all the subfolders and files under C:\Myfolder\account)
|| >
|| > Right click on the selection and choose 'Move' to C:\accounts . Then
| you
|| > may delete the now empty folder C:\Myfolder\accounts.
|| >
|| > The entire process will take a few seconds.
|| >
|| > Phil Weldon
|| >
|| > || > | Hi,
|| > |
|| > | I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many
| folders
|| > | containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want to
|| > redesign
|| > | the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders and
|| > then
|| > | renaming them. Let me put a situation here:
|| > |
|| > | say my folder structure is like this:
|| > | c:\Myfolder\accounts
|| > | now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove the
My
|| > | folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from
| accounts.
|| > I
|| > | want to make it C:\accounts. I normally do it like this I copy the
|| > subfolder
|| > | accounts (c:\Myfolder\accounts) to c:\accounts and then delete the
|| > Myfolder.
|| > | but it takes lot of time and I am looking for a way so that I don't
| need
|| > to
|| > | copy it instead, I can just remove Myfolder entry from registry or
|| > somewhere
|| > | else.
|| > | Is it possible?
|| > |
|| > | Regards,
|| > | Ravi Verma
|| > |
|| > |
|| >
|| >
||
||
|
|
 
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Ravi Verma

Phil u r an old hand on computers. Thats great, I have learn about computers
by myself and from people like you only. Now, I can assemble PC,
Troubleshoot hardware and software problems, installation of windows and
linux os, etc. but since I haven't gone through any formal classes sometimes
I don't know simplest of things. and sometimes, I ignore simple things, like
this "Move" but this time I asked the question and was surprised to c the
result. Move within same drive is like a magic. I am earning my bread and
butter by providing service to ppl who find some problem in computers, maybe
hardware or software and also learning everyday.

Maybe some day I too will be know as Ravi Wisdom Vermal.

Regards,
Ravi Verma
 
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Phil Weldon

'Ravi Verma' wrote:
| Phil Weldon, I am sorry to say that you have got a wrong name "Phil
Weldon"
| it should have been "Phil Wisdom". You are excellent. Your knowledge and
the
| ability to explain is above par.
____

Thanks for the compliment, but many, many regulars on this newsgroup have
much more knowledge than I on Windows XP. A simple Well done is sufficient
B^)

In 1966 I wrote a manual for a computer program I produced. With anything as
complex as a computer platform it is always a struggle to present
information clearly and unambiguously. And yet end with a readable result.
In 1965 I was taught to program computers. Back then computer time was so
much more expensive than people time (perhaps 20 to 200 times the hourly
rate) that my class was eight hours a day, five students with three full
time teachers. As I learned and wrote, I could ask questions from someone
in the room. That is still the best way to learn to use computers, but the
costs are all the other way now, yet the complexity is much greater.

Good luck.

Phil Weldon

| Phil Weldon, I am sorry to say that you have got a wrong name "Phil
Weldon"
| it should have been "Phil Wisdom". You are excellent. Your knowledge and
the
| ability to explain is above par.
|
| Thanks very much and now I have got my reply.
|
| Regards,
| Ravi Verma
| | > Phil Weldon wrote, in part:
| > | #2. You get the option to move, copy or 'create shortcut' AFTER you
| > drag
| > | and drop if you use a right click for the drag and drop.
| > _____
| >
| > Sorry, to get the choice of moving or copying for drag and drop you
should
| > use a right click and HOLD, not just a right click, which opens a much
| > longer list of options. Right click and hold, then drag and drop, and a
| > menu will open giving the choice of copy, move, or create shortcut.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > | > | 'Ravi Verma' wrote:
| > || One more question regarding "Move to folder" moving files or folders
| > | between
| > || two partitions is same as copy paste or what?
| > ||
| > || Say I have a folder accounts ie. c:\myfolders\accounts and now i want
| > to
| > || move the accounts folder to d:\newfolder. Can I use move here or it
is
| > | same
| > || as copy-pasting?
| > ||
| > || Moreover, I cannot find "Move" option on right clicking or no pop-up
| > | appears
| > || if I drag and drop in windows explorer. Only I get this option in
Edit
| > | menu
| > || in Windows Explorer.
| > | _____
| > |
| > | #2. You get the option to move, copy or 'create shortcut' AFTER you
| > drag
| > | and drop if you use a right click for the drag and drop.
| > |
| > | #1. If you move the 'accounts' subfolder of C:\myfolders\accounts to
| > | D:\newfolder to make D:\newfolder\accounts the move is to a new
PHYSICAL
| > | location. C: and D: are either two partitions on a single drive (two
| > | different physical areas of the drive) or two different drives. A
copy
| > and
| > | a move perform the same function, except that a move deletes the files
| > and
| > | file structure from the old PHYSICAL location. Transferring 10 GBytes
| > | containing file structures and several thousand files to a new
PHYSICAL
| > | location will take several minutes. Deleting the old material takes
| > only
| > a
| > | few seconds because the disk file management just marks the space
empty.
| > The
| > | data is still there, but it is no longer linked to anything, and is
| > | available for reuse (that's why delete files can sometimes be
recovered,
| > | especially if the recovery is done very soon after the deletion.) The
| > | 'Recycle' bin is used to temporarily maintain the old data until the
| > space
| > | is needed.
| > |
| > | #0. From your previous post: 'send to' is a 'move'.
| > |
| > | Phil Weldon
| > |
| > | | > || Hi,
| > ||
| > || One more question regarding "Move to folder" moving files or folders
| > | between
| > || two partitions is same as copy paste or what?
| > ||
| > || Say I have a folder accounts ie. c:\myfolders\accounts and now i want
| > to
| > || move the accounts folder to d:\newfolder. Can I use move here or it
is
| > | same
| > || as copy-pasting?
| > ||
| > || Moreover, I cannot find "Move" option on right clicking or no pop-up
| > | appears
| > || if I drag and drop in windows explorer. Only I get this option in
Edit
| > | menu
| > || in Windows Explorer.
| > ||
| > || Regards,
| > || Ravi Verma
| > || | > || > 'Ravi Verma' wrote, in part:
| > || > | I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many
| > | folders
| > || > | containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want
to
| > || > redesign
| > || > | the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders
| > and
| > || > then
| > || > | renaming them. Let me put a situation here:
| > || > |
| > || > | say my folder structure is like this:
| > || > | c:\Myfolder\accounts
| > || > | now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove
the
| > My
| > || > | folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from
| > | accounts.
| > || > I
| > || > | want to make it C:\accounts.
| > || > _____
| > || >
| > || > Just in case I have not understood your question correctly, it has
| > | nothing
| > || > to do with 'My Documents', right?
| > || >
| > || > When you move files (or a file structure) from one folder to
another
| > in
| > || > the
| > || > same disk and partition the files are not really moved. The
pointers
| > in
| > || > the
| > || > directory are changed to reflect the new LOGICAL location; the
| > PHYSICAL
| > || > location does not change. Several thousand files totaling ten
GBytes
| > in
| > | a
| > || > number of folders all under one upper level folder name can be
| > 'moved'
| > | to
| > || > a
| > || > new folder in a few seconds because all that changes is the logical
| > || > assignment, not the physical location. The trick is to MOVE the
| > files
| > | and
| > || > folder structure, not COPY - copy DOES make a duplicate of all the
| > files
| > || > and
| > || > folder structure in a new physical location.
| > || >
| > || > In Windows Explorer select (in your example) the folder
| > || > C:\Myfolder\accounts
| > || > and MOVE it to C:\ (if there is not already a C:\accounts folder.)
| > || > If there is already a C:\accounts folder then use the shift key and
| > | mouse
| > || > to
| > || > select all the subfolders and files under C:\Myfolder\account)
| > || >
| > || > Right click on the selection and choose 'Move' to C:\accounts .
Then
| > | you
| > || > may delete the now empty folder C:\Myfolder\accounts.
| > || >
| > || > The entire process will take a few seconds.
| > || >
| > || > Phil Weldon
| > || >
| > || > | > || > | Hi,
| > || > |
| > || > | I have faced a lot of problems in this regard. I have seen many
| > | folders
| > || > | containing huge amount of datas under subfolders and then I want
to
| > || > redesign
| > || > | the folder structure and it takes lot of time to copy the folders
| > and
| > || > then
| > || > | renaming them. Let me put a situation here:
| > || > |
| > || > | say my folder structure is like this:
| > || > | c:\Myfolder\accounts
| > || > | now the accounts folder has 10 GB of data. I now want to remove
the
| > My
| > || > | folder which doesnot have any other file or folder apart from
| > | accounts.
| > || > I
| > || > | want to make it C:\accounts. I normally do it like this I copy
the
| > || > subfolder
| > || > | accounts (c:\Myfolder\accounts) to c:\accounts and then delete
the
| > || > Myfolder.
| > || > | but it takes lot of time and I am looking for a way so that I
don't
| > | need
| > || > to
| > || > | copy it instead, I can just remove Myfolder entry from registry
or
| > || > somewhere
| > || > | else.
| > || > | Is it possible?
| > || > |
| > || > | Regards,
| > || > | Ravi Verma
| > || > |
| > || > |
| > || >
| > || >
| > ||
| > ||
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 

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