Defraggers for Vista

[Dennis Gordon]

I've been giving 5728 a run on my old machine. A fast scsi drive makes up a
bit for the relatively puny specs (northwood at 3.4 / 533 / 512, Quadro
video, 512 megs of memory) Things run about as fast as the XP Pro that
preceded it.

The built-in defrag utility is a step back IMO. I tried running it from a
command line inhopes of greater detail and just got starting and ending
statistics, and no way of estimating the the operation. Dumb messages like
"...this operation may take from several minutes to several hours" aren't
informative at all. I miss my Perfect Disk. Then I got a note saying that
Diskeeper was out for Vista, but the version I downloaded wouldn't install.
Can someone point me to it? Thanks...

I'm another Vista user who finds the OS interesting, but annoying. In its
attempt to make this OS more mac-like, it seems like they've added all these
protective layers and explications between the user and the programs. I
don't need to have the rules of Solitaire explained to me. Parts of Vista
really seems like Windows for Dummies. OTOH it looks good and is fairly
stable at this point. I'll keep slogging at it, but I'd really prefer that
they'd put some of this development into the XP Pro 64 bit I run at work, a
much-maligned OS that's being marginalized by the Vista hubub...

 

[Rock]

I've been giving 5728 a run on my old machine. A fast scsi drive makes up
a bit for the relatively puny specs (northwood at 3.4 / 533 / 512, Quadro
video, 512 megs of memory) Things run about as fast as the XP Pro that
preceded it.

The built-in defrag utility is a step back IMO. I tried running it from a
command line inhopes of greater detail and just got starting and ending
statistics, and no way of estimating the the operation. Dumb messages like
"...this operation may take from several minutes to several hours" aren't
informative at all. I miss my Perfect Disk. Then I got a note saying that
Diskeeper was out for Vista, but the version I downloaded wouldn't
install. Can someone point me to it? Thanks...

I'm another Vista user who finds the OS interesting, but annoying. In its
attempt to make this OS more mac-like, it seems like they've added all
these protective layers and explications between the user and the
programs. I don't need to have the rules of Solitaire explained to me.
Parts of Vista really seems like Windows for Dummies. OTOH it looks good
and is fairly stable at this point. I'll keep slogging at it, but I'd
really prefer that they'd put some of this development into the XP Pro 64
bit I run at work, a much-maligned OS that's being marginalized by the
Vista hubub...

Raxco has a beta version of PerfectDisk 8 that works on Vista. Get it from
their website.

For Diskeeper 10, the beta version, it's designed for earlier builds, not
for 5600 or 5728. It would not install in either of those for me, giving a
1920 error, unable to launch service. Apparently Diskeeper Corp is not
releasing a pubic beta version compatible with these later Vista builds.

One poster reported they did an upgrade from XP Pro that had DK10 installed,
and it worked in either 5600 or 5728, I don't remember which.

One poster reported the boot time defrag feature in PerfectDisk borked his
system requiring major reconstruction. Another poster said they had a
problem with this as well, emailed Raxco, and got a reg fix for it that
worked. I don't know if it has been resolved in later releases of PD 8.

I have been using PD8 in Vista build 5728 for a few days now, no problems,
but I haven't done a boot time defrag. I am imaging the system tonight so
was planning on trying it out tomorrow.

 

[Dennis Gordon]

I have PD8 on my XP Pro machine. Love it. It wouldn't install on the Vista
box. I'll go back to Raxco's site and see what's there. Thanks...

 

[Lang Murphy]

Read through some of the posts in this NG, and many others, I'd guess, and
you'll find lots of folks who don't really have a clue about PC's, OS's, or
applications. That's not diss'in' them, that's just the way it is.
Personally, I think the clueless take a big gamble when they install a BETA
OS on a PC, which is usually their production PC, which causes them to
scream bloody murder when their PC goes south and they don't have any flavor
of backup.

Sorry, I digress...

Point being that there are lots of clueless folks out there who will
benefit, I think, just my opinion, from a Windows for Dummies approach.
Agree wholeheartedly that it can be annoying. Hard to find a middle ground
between Expert and Raw Beginner in the UI world, methinks. Jes' my two
cents...

Lang

 

[Dennis Gordon]

I just installed the PD8 beta. I don't know how I missed it before. 150 day
trial period. Giving it a whirl right now.

 

[Telstar]

Raxco has a beta version of PerfectDisk 8 that works on Vista. Get it from
their website.

For Diskeeper 10, the beta version, it's designed for earlier builds, not
for 5600 or 5728. It would not install in either of those for me, giving a
1920 error, unable to launch service. Apparently Diskeeper Corp is not
releasing a pubic beta version compatible with these later Vista builds.

The beta now supports 5600.
Its working right now. I dont know why they ask you to install it
using the default administrator account.
Anyway, I did it, I selected to be available to all users and now i'm
using it with my normal user-admin account.
Note that this beta is not the premium and has no IIFAST

Raxco support has not been able to isolate the conflict that PD8 had
on my system when doing the boot defrag and I'm not going to risk
again. I do think that is with the PC Cillin services, though.