Database Secuirty

[Guest]

I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to certain users. For
example on my switchboard it has links to all my forms some which are manager
forms and the otehrs which can be used by all staff. I have run the user
level secuirty wizard and assigned certain previledges such as read only for
new users, and full permissions and full data users. But i want to know how
can i stop certain groups opening certain links from my switchboard such as
manager options??? I am a little confused on this topic. all ur help would
be great

 

[Joan Wild]

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access to set up your
menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound form. You can add
all the buttons you like, and you'll have more flexibility than the SM can
provide.

There is code in the security FAQ http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793
you can use to determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various buttons that the
group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If

 

[Guest]

Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with the information
from the security FAQ, and used the code as follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name and the caption
are the same and I cut and pasted the name to avoid typos, however everytime
I try to view my form I get an error message that the "database can't find
the field "cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?

 

[Joan Wild]

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

 

[Guest]

I get a totally different error "method or datamember not found". This
should be easy, would it make a difference if I did it backwards? Tell it to
hid unless a member of the Admins group is logged in?

 

[Joan Wild]

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the Tools menu.
Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the form? What version of
Access?

 

[Guest]

The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one for the
user's to change their own passwords and one that's been set up for one of
the administrators to handle passwords (this is the one I'm trying to hide
from everyone but the admins) so there are no relationships setup with this
form. I am using Office 2003. Is there any editing in the code from the
security FAQ that I might need to edit to point to the right place?

 

[Joan Wild]

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are checked? Are
there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties dialog
when the form is in design view and you have the cmdPasswordAdmin control
selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On Click property?

 

[Guest]

Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's password
--
Lori A. Pong

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are checked? Are
there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties dialog
when the form is in design view and you have the cmdPasswordAdmin control
selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one for
the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been set up
for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this is the one
I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so there are no
relationships setup with this form. I am using Office 2003. Is
there any editing in the code from the security FAQ that I might need
to edit to point to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong

 

[Joan Wild]

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property then the code
won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are checked?
Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties
dialog when the form is in design view and you have the
cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On
Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one for
the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been set up
for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this is the one
I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so there are no
relationships setup with this form. I am using Office 2003. Is
there any editing in the code from the security FAQ that I might
need to edit to point to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the Tools
menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the form? What
version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not found".
This should be easy, would it make a difference if I did it
backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the Admins group is
logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with the
information from the security FAQ, and used the code as follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name and
the caption are the same and I cut and pasted the name to avoid
typos, however everytime I try to view my form I get an error
message that the "database can't find the field
"cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access to
set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound form.
You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll have more
flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open event
for your form, use the function and hide various buttons that
the group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to certain
users. For example on my switchboard it has links to all my
forms some which are manager forms and the otehrs which can be
used by all staff. I have run the user level secuirty wizard
and assigned certain previledges such as read only for new
users, and full permissions and full data users. But i want to
know how can i stop certain groups opening certain links from
my switchboard such as manager options??? I am a little
confused on this topic. all ur help would be great

 

[Guest]

The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for Applications,
Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE Automation, Microsoft DAO 3.6
Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property then the code
won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are checked?
Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties
dialog when the form is in design view and you have the
cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On
Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one for
the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been set up
for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this is the one
I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so there are no
relationships setup with this form. I am using Office 2003. Is
there any editing in the code from the security FAQ that I might
need to edit to point to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the Tools
menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the form? What
version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not found".
This should be easy, would it make a difference if I did it
backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the Admins group is
logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with the
information from the security FAQ, and used the code as follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name and
the caption are the same and I cut and pasted the name to avoid
typos, however everytime I try to view my form I get an error
message that the "database can't find the field
"cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access to
set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound form.
You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll have more
flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open event
for your form, use the function and hide various buttons that
the group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to certain
users. For example on my switchboard it has links to all my
forms some which are manager forms and the otehrs which can be
used by all staff. I have run the user level secuirty wizard
and assigned certain previledges such as read only for new
users, and full permissions and full data users. But i want to
know how can i stop certain groups opening certain links from
my switchboard such as manager options??? I am a little
confused on this topic. all ur help would be great

 

[Joan Wild]

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you aren't
using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for Applications,
Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE Automation, Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property then
the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are checked?
Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties
dialog when the form is in design view and you have the
cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On
Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one
for the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been
set up for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this is
the one I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so there
are no relationships setup with this form. I am using Office
2003. Is there any editing in the code from the security FAQ
that I might need to edit to point to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the Admins
group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with the
information from the security FAQ, and used the code as
follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name
and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted the name to
avoid typos, however everytime I try to view my form I get an
error message that the "database can't find the field
"cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access
to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll have
more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has links
to all my forms some which are manager forms and the otehrs
which can be used by all staff. I have run the user level
secuirty wizard and assigned certain previledges such as
read only for new users, and full permissions and full data
users. But i want to know how can i stop certain groups
opening certain links from my switchboard such as manager
options??? I am a little confused on this topic. all ur
help would be great

 

[Guest]

Okay, I removed the ActiveX byt it didn't help. I'm still getting the same
error.
--
Lori A. Pong

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you aren't
using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for Applications,
Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE Automation, Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property then
the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are checked?
Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties
dialog when the form is in design view and you have the
cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On
Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one
for the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been
set up for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this is
the one I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so there
are no relationships setup with this form. I am using Office
2003. Is there any editing in the code from the security FAQ
that I might need to edit to point to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the Admins
group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with the
information from the security FAQ, and used the code as
follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name
and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted the name to
avoid typos, however everytime I try to view my form I get an
error message that the "database can't find the field
"cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access
to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll have
more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has links
to all my forms some which are manager forms and the otehrs
which can be used by all staff. I have run the user level
secuirty wizard and assigned certain previledges such as
read only for new users, and full permissions and full data
users. But i want to know how can i stop certain groups
opening certain links from my switchboard such as manager
options??? I am a little confused on this topic. all ur
help would be great

 

[Guest]

Okay, I removed the ActiveX but I'm still getting the same error. Any other
suggestions?
--
Lori A. Pong

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you aren't
using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for Applications,
Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE Automation, Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property then
the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are checked?
Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties
dialog when the form is in design view and you have the
cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On
Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one
for the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been
set up for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this is
the one I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so there
are no relationships setup with this form. I am using Office
2003. Is there any editing in the code from the security FAQ
that I might need to edit to point to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the Admins
group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with the
information from the security FAQ, and used the code as
follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name
and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted the name to
avoid typos, however everytime I try to view my form I get an
error message that the "database can't find the field
"cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access
to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll have
more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has links
to all my forms some which are manager forms and the otehrs
which can be used by all staff. I have run the user level
secuirty wizard and assigned certain previledges such as
read only for new users, and full permissions and full data
users. But i want to know how can i stop certain groups
opening certain links from my switchboard such as manager
options??? I am a little confused on this topic. all ur
help would be great

 

[Guest]

Any other suggestions? Still getting the same error.
--
Lori A. Pong

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you aren't
using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for Applications,
Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE Automation, Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property then
the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are checked?
Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties
dialog when the form is in design view and you have the
cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On
Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one
for the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been
set up for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this is
the one I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so there
are no relationships setup with this form. I am using Office
2003. Is there any editing in the code from the security FAQ
that I might need to edit to point to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the Admins
group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with the
information from the security FAQ, and used the code as
follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name
and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted the name to
avoid typos, however everytime I try to view my form I get an
error message that the "database can't find the field
"cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access
to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll have
more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has links
to all my forms some which are manager forms and the otehrs
which can be used by all staff. I have run the user level
secuirty wizard and assigned certain previledges such as
read only for new users, and full permissions and full data
users. But i want to know how can i stop certain groups
opening certain links from my switchboard such as manager
options??? I am a little confused on this topic. all ur
help would be great

 

[Joan Wild]

I'm stumped. If you like, make a copy of your database; remove everything
except the form and module. Also, in this copy, grant permissions to the
Users group for everything, zip it up and email it to me and I'll have a
look.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Okay, I removed the ActiveX byt it didn't help. I'm still getting
the same error.
--
Lori A. Pong

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you
aren't using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any
errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for
Applications, Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE Automation,
Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property then
the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are
checked? Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties
dialog when the form is in design view and you have the
cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On
Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one
for the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been
set up for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this
is the one I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so
there are no relationships setup with this form. I am using
Office 2003. Is there any editing in the code from the
security FAQ that I might need to edit to point to the right
place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the Admins
group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with
the information from the security FAQ, and used the code as
follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name
and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted the name
to avoid typos, however everytime I try to view my form I
get an error message that the "database can't find the field
"cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access
to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll have
more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has links
to all my forms some which are manager forms and the
otehrs which can be used by all staff. I have run the
user level secuirty wizard and assigned certain
previledges such as read only for new users, and full
permissions and full data users. But i want to know how
can i stop certain groups opening certain links from my
switchboard such as manager options??? I am a little
confused on this topic. all ur help would be great

 

[Guest]

Okay, I looked at your profile for an email address and apparently its wrong
because I get a failure notice. However, Okay, I tried to email you the
database however 1. it won't let me make a copy because if I try to access it
from outside by trying to import files it won't give me a login menu to allow
access. I created a duplicate and removed all of the data except for what
you said to leave in place but I received a failure notice because even
zipped the file is 57MB. Do you have any suggestions to bypass the security
so I can copy want I need to have reviewed into a new database that would be
smaller?
--
Lori A. Pong

I'm stumped. If you like, make a copy of your database; remove everything
except the form and module. Also, in this copy, grant permissions to the
Users group for everything, zip it up and email it to me and I'll have a
look.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Okay, I removed the ActiveX byt it didn't help. I'm still getting
the same error.
--
Lori A. Pong

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you
aren't using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any
errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for
Applications, Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE Automation,
Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property then
the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are
checked? Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the properties
dialog when the form is in design view and you have the
cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in the On
Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form one
for the user's to change their own passwords and one that's been
set up for one of the administrators to handle passwords (this
is the one I'm trying to hide from everyone but the admins) so
there are no relationships setup with this form. I am using
Office 2003. Is there any editing in the code from the
security FAQ that I might need to edit to point to the right
place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the Admins
group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with
the information from the security FAQ, and used the code as
follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control name
and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted the name
to avoid typos, however everytime I try to view my form I
get an error message that the "database can't find the field
"cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in Access
to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll have
more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has links
to all my forms some which are manager forms and the
otehrs which can be used by all staff. I have run the
user level secuirty wizard and assigned certain
previledges such as read only for new users, and full
permissions and full data users. But i want to know how
can i stop certain groups opening certain links from my
switchboard such as manager options??? I am a little
confused on this topic. all ur help would be great

 

[Joan Wild]

Not sure what's on my 'profile' as I don't use the web to access these
groups. However send it to
jwild at tyenet dot com
Don't import the objects. Just go to Windows explorer and copy the mdb
file. Open the copy (logging in), and remove all the unnecessary
tables/queries/forms/reports. Just send me the form and the module that
isn't working. Go to tools, security, permissions and grant full permissions
to the Users Group for the form, database, and module. Go to Tools,
database utilities, compact and repair. Close. You should find that this
copy is much smaller than 57 Mb.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Okay, I looked at your profile for an email address and apparently
its wrong because I get a failure notice. However, Okay, I tried to
email you the database however 1. it won't let me make a copy because
if I try to access it from outside by trying to import files it won't
give me a login menu to allow access. I created a duplicate and
removed all of the data except for what you said to leave in place
but I received a failure notice because even zipped the file is 57MB.
Do you have any suggestions to bypass the security so I can copy want
I need to have reviewed into a new database that would be smaller?
--
Lori A. Pong

I'm stumped. If you like, make a copy of your database; remove
everything except the form and module. Also, in this copy, grant
permissions to the Users group for everything, zip it up and email
it to me and I'll have a look.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Okay, I removed the ActiveX byt it didn't help. I'm still getting
the same error.
--
Lori A. Pong


:

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you
aren't using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any
errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for
Applications, Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE
Automation, Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property
then the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the
references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are
checked? Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the
properties dialog when the form is in design view and you have
the cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in
the On Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form
one for the user's to change their own passwords and one
that's been set up for one of the administrators to handle
passwords (this is the one I'm trying to hide from everyone
but the admins) so there are no relationships setup with this
form. I am using Office 2003. Is there any editing in the
code from the security FAQ that I might need to edit to point
to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the
Admins group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with
the information from the security FAQ, and used the code
as follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control
name and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted
the name to avoid typos, however everytime I try to view
my form I get an error message that the "database can't
find the field "cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your
expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in
Access to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll
have more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For
example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has
links to all my forms some which are manager forms and
the otehrs which can be used by all staff. I have run
the user level secuirty wizard and assigned certain
previledges such as read only for new users, and full
permissions and full data users. But i want to know how
can i stop certain groups opening certain links from my
switchboard such as manager options??? I am a little
confused on this topic. all ur help would be great

 

[Joan Wild]

Hi Lori,

Open your form in design view. You'll notice that the name of the control
is PasswordAdmin not cmdPasswordAdmin. So change the code behind the form
to
Me.PasswordAdmin.Visible = True


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Okay, I looked at your profile for an email address and apparently
its wrong because I get a failure notice. However, Okay, I tried to
email you the database however 1. it won't let me make a copy because
if I try to access it from outside by trying to import files it won't
give me a login menu to allow access. I created a duplicate and
removed all of the data except for what you said to leave in place
but I received a failure notice because even zipped the file is 57MB.
Do you have any suggestions to bypass the security so I can copy want
I need to have reviewed into a new database that would be smaller?
--
Lori A. Pong

I'm stumped. If you like, make a copy of your database; remove
everything except the form and module. Also, in this copy, grant
permissions to the Users group for everything, zip it up and email
it to me and I'll have a look.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Okay, I removed the ActiveX byt it didn't help. I'm still getting
the same error.
--
Lori A. Pong


:

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you
aren't using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any
errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for
Applications, Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE
Automation, Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property
then the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the
references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are
checked? Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the
properties dialog when the form is in design view and you have
the cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in
the On Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form
one for the user's to change their own passwords and one
that's been set up for one of the administrators to handle
passwords (this is the one I'm trying to hide from everyone
but the admins) so there are no relationships setup with this
form. I am using Office 2003. Is there any editing in the
code from the security FAQ that I might need to edit to point
to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the
Admins group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with
the information from the security FAQ, and used the code
as follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control
name and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted
the name to avoid typos, however everytime I try to view
my form I get an error message that the "database can't
find the field "cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your
expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in
Access to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll
have more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For
example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has
links to all my forms some which are manager forms and
the otehrs which can be used by all staff. I have run
the user level secuirty wizard and assigned certain
previledges such as read only for new users, and full
permissions and full data users. But i want to know how
can i stop certain groups opening certain links from my
switchboard such as manager options??? I am a little
confused on this topic. all ur help would be great

 

[Guest]

Perfect, thanks for all the help.
--
Lori A. Pong

Hi Lori,

Open your form in design view. You'll notice that the name of the control
is PasswordAdmin not cmdPasswordAdmin. So change the code behind the form
to
Me.PasswordAdmin.Visible = True


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Okay, I looked at your profile for an email address and apparently
its wrong because I get a failure notice. However, Okay, I tried to
email you the database however 1. it won't let me make a copy because
if I try to access it from outside by trying to import files it won't
give me a login menu to allow access. I created a duplicate and
removed all of the data except for what you said to leave in place
but I received a failure notice because even zipped the file is 57MB.
Do you have any suggestions to bypass the security so I can copy want
I need to have reviewed into a new database that would be smaller?
--
Lori A. Pong

I'm stumped. If you like, make a copy of your database; remove
everything except the form and module. Also, in this copy, grant
permissions to the Users group for everything, zip it up and email
it to me and I'll have a look.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Okay, I removed the ActiveX byt it didn't help. I'm still getting
the same error.
--
Lori A. Pong


:

Try removing the reference to ActiveX Data Objects - I'll bet you
aren't using ADO anyway.

Once you uncheck it, use Debug, Compile and see if it finds any
errors.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The first five references are checked: Visual Basic for
Applications, Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library, OLE
Automation, Microsoft DAO
3.6 Object Library and Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.5 Library.
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I know, but if [Event Procedure] is missing from the property
then the code won't fire. Also you didn't respond wrt the
references.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Yes, the on click runs the code for the admin to change a user's
password --
Lori A. Pong


:

Hit Ctrl-G; go to Tools, References - what references are
checked? Are there any marked as missing?

Wait a minute; just thought of something else. In the
properties dialog when the form is in design view and you have
the cmdPasswordAdmin control selected, is [Event Procedure] in
the On Click property?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
The form is my unbound menu. I have two buttons on the form
one for the user's to change their own passwords and one
that's been set up for one of the administrators to handle
passwords (this is the one I'm trying to hide from everyone
but the admins) so there are no relationships setup with this
form. I am using Office 2003. Is there any editing in the
code from the security FAQ that I might need to edit to point
to the right place? --
Lori A. Pong


:

I shouldn't make a difference. Check your references in the
Tools menu. Any missing? What is checked? Have you save the
form? What version of Access?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
I get a totally different error "method or datamember not
found". This should be easy, would it make a difference if I
did it backwards? Tell it to hid unless a member of the
Admins group is logged in? --
Lori A. Pong


:

try Me.cmdPasswordAdmin.visible = True

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Lori wrote:
Joan, I've followed all the steps, created the module with
the information from the security FAQ, and used the code
as follows:

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)

If faq_IsUserInGroup("Admins", CurrentUser()) = True Then
Me!cmdPasswordAdmin.Visible = True
End If

In order to make sure there is no doubt to the control
name and the caption are the same and I cut and pasted
the name to avoid typos, however everytime I try to view
my form I get an error message that the "database can't
find the field "cmdPasswordAdmin" referred to in your
expression"

What am I doing wrong?
--
Lori A. Pong


:

I take it you are using the 'switchboard manager' in
Access to set up your menu form.

I suggest you ditch it and instead just create an unbound
form. You can add all the buttons you like, and you'll
have more flexibility than the SM can provide.

There is code in the security FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793 you can use to
determine if a user is a member of a group. In the open
event for your form, use the function and hide various
buttons that the group isn't supposed to see. For
example

If faq_IsUserInGroup("EnterData",CurrentUser) then
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = False
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = False
Else
Me.cmdWhatever.Visible = True
Me.cmdSomething.Visible = True
End If



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kit wrote:
I was wondering how do i assign certain previledges to
certain users. For example on my switchboard it has
links to all my forms some which are manager forms and
the otehrs which can be used by all staff. I have run
the user level secuirty wizard and assigned certain
previledges such as read only for new users, and full
permissions and full data users. But i want to know how
can i stop certain groups opening certain links from my
switchboard such as manager options??? I am a little
confused on this topic. all ur help would be great