Data Recovery Agent

G

Guest

Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and go take a jump int he lake! I need to know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the encryption details for a particular file.
For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have transparent access to the file and below it shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE? Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and go take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have transparent access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE? Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
 
M

Miha Pihler

You could give us some more information if you want specific answer. First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and it's hard
to read.

Mike

XDA974 said:
I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


Carey Frisch said:
HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I wrote in Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and sends a FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me the lazy answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed my certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My problem now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data Recovery Agent is installed.
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
You could give us some more information if you want specific answer. First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and it's hard
to read.

Mike

XDA974 said:
I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


Carey Frisch said:
HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

It is a home workstation. I have successfully installed my certificate in the personal store. My problem is how do I install the Data Recovery Agent? I cannot find how that is done and I need step-by-step not a FAQ which was the lazy answer from my friend carey. That's why I wrote in CAPS since I was angry. This carey mvp did not read my post!!!!! Anyway, this is the futility that technocracy has wrought upon us.
Thanks for reading my post Miha. Now please tell me how to install the DRA?

--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
You could give us some more information if you want specific answer. First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and it's hard
to read.

Mike

XDA974 said:
I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


Carey Frisch said:
HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

It is a home workstation. I have successfully installed my certificate in the personal store. My problem is how do I install the Data Recovery Agent? I cannot find how that is done and I need step-by-step not a FAQ which was the lazy answer from my friend carey. That's why I wrote in CAPS since I was angry. This carey mvp did not read my post!!!!! Anyway, this is the futility that technocracy has wrought upon us.
Thanks for reading my post Miha. Now please tell me how to install the DRA?
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
You could give us some more information if you want specific answer. First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and it's hard
to read.

Mike

XDA974 said:
I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


Carey Frisch said:
HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
M

Miha Pihler

Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time for free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of those FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is you can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new user that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function. For this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content -> Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export it by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export the private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path where you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any certificates for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you can then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and drill down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in right pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line run: cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire after 1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your private keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

XDA974 said:
No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I wrote in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and sends a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me the lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data Recovery Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
You could give us some more information if you want specific answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and it's
hard
to read.

Mike

XDA974 said:
I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Data Protection and Recovery in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/support/dataprot.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| It is a home workstation. I have successfully installed my certificate in the personal store. My problem is
how do I install the Data Recovery Agent? I cannot find how that is done and I need step-by-step not a FAQ
which was the lazy answer from my friend carey. That's why I wrote in CAPS since I was angry. This carey mvp
did not read my post!!!!! Anyway, this is the futility that technocracy has wrought upon us.
| Thanks for reading my post Miha. Now please tell me how to install the DRA?
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

Mike,
You're a scholar and a gentleman. This is what I've been wailing about from minute 1! I am going to print your suggestions out and then take them to execution. Will let you know in a day or two how it went!
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time for free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of those FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is you can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new user that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function. For this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content -> Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export it by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export the private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path where you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any certificates for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you can then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and drill down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in right pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line run: cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire after 1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your private keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

XDA974 said:
No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I wrote in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and sends a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me the lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data Recovery Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
You could give us some more information if you want specific answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that MVP person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to go through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your directions appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be the MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must designate a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is it still necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time for free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of those FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is you can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new user that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function. For this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content -> Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export it by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export the private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path where you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any certificates for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you can then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and drill down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in right pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line run: cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire after 1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your private keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

XDA974 said:
No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I wrote in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and sends a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me the lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data Recovery Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
You could give us some more information if you want specific answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
T

Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)

XDA974 said:
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must
designate a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?

If you create a DRA in after hand, you will need to update all old
files so the new DRA is "imprinted" in them.

To avoid the laborious job to open and save all files, you can use
cipher.exe to update the recovery agent keys on the files.

From "Encrypting File System in Windows XP and Windows Server 2003" at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/cryptfs.mspx

<quote>
In Windows XP, the command-line utility cipher.exe has been updated
with a /U parameter to update the file encryption key or recovery
agent keys on all files on local drives. For example:

Cipher.exe /U
C:\Temp\test.txt: Encryption updated.
C:\My Documents\wordpad.doc: Encryption updated.

Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is it
still necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?

I wouldn't think so...
 
M

Miha Pihler

Thanks,

I am glad I was able to help out,

Mike

XDA974 said:
Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that MVP
person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to go
through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your directions
appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be the MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must designate
a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is it still
necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time for
free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of those
FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is you
can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new user
that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function. For
this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content ->
Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export it by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export the
private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path where
you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any certificates
for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you can
then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and drill down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in right
pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line run:
cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire after
1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any
files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your private
keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

XDA974 said:
No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I wrote in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and sends
a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me the lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data Recovery
Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


:

You could give us some more information if you want specific answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and
it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ
and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that
file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS
DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

Mike,
Hi. So far I am lucky in that aghosted HDD I had provisionally given to a friend has saved the day, EXCEPT for a folder which I had originally fiddled with and right now I have a challenge in my hands. About 98% of my data has been recovered except for this folder.
Now, when I attempt to install a DRA I get the following error:
"The file contains no certificates suitable for EFS Recovery. Please select another file or user."
It really makes me angry that I cannot find a definitive 'manul' if you want to call it that to help me do this right. Instead I get some boorish document from these other MVPs which do nothing for my situation! OIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Thanks,

I am glad I was able to help out,

Mike

XDA974 said:
Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that MVP
person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to go
through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your directions
appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be the MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must designate
a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is it still
necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time for
free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of those
FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is you
can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new user
that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function. For
this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content ->
Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export it by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export the
private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path where
you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any certificates
for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you can
then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and drill down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in right
pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line run:
cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire after
1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any
files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your private
keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I wrote in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and sends
a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me the lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data Recovery
Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


:

You could give us some more information if you want specific answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and
it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the FAQ
and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that
file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS
DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
M

Miha Pihler

What certificate do you use? How did you get it? What is it's extension?
*.cer?

Mike

XDA974 said:
Mike,
Hi. So far I am lucky in that aghosted HDD I had provisionally given to a
friend has saved the day, EXCEPT for a folder which I had originally
fiddled with and right now I have a challenge in my hands. About 98% of my
data has been recovered except for this folder.
Now, when I attempt to install a DRA I get the following error:
"The file contains no certificates suitable for EFS Recovery. Please
select another file or user."
It really makes me angry that I cannot find a definitive 'manul' if you
want to call it that to help me do this right. Instead I get some boorish
document from these other MVPs which do nothing for my situation!
OIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Thanks,

I am glad I was able to help out,

Mike

XDA974 said:
Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that MVP
person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to go
through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your directions
appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be the
MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must
designate
a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is it
still
necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


:

Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time
for
free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of those
FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is you
can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new user
that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function. For
this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content ->
Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export it
by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export the
private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path
where
you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any certificates
for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you can
then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and drill
down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security
settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in right
pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line run:
cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to
guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire
after
1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any
files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your private
keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I wrote
in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and
sends
a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me the
lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My
problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data Recovery
Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


:

You could give us some more information if you want specific
answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or
not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and
it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the
FAQ
and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows
the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that
file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS
DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

It is a security certificate and I had used the mmc.exe to get it. It is one of the users in my machine. Can I call you or something so we can get this done in a less futile way?
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
What certificate do you use? How did you get it? What is it's extension?
*.cer?

Mike

XDA974 said:
Mike,
Hi. So far I am lucky in that aghosted HDD I had provisionally given to a
friend has saved the day, EXCEPT for a folder which I had originally
fiddled with and right now I have a challenge in my hands. About 98% of my
data has been recovered except for this folder.
Now, when I attempt to install a DRA I get the following error:
"The file contains no certificates suitable for EFS Recovery. Please
select another file or user."
It really makes me angry that I cannot find a definitive 'manul' if you
want to call it that to help me do this right. Instead I get some boorish
document from these other MVPs which do nothing for my situation!
OIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Thanks,

I am glad I was able to help out,

Mike

Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that MVP
person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to go
through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your directions
appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be the
MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must
designate
a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is it
still
necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


:

Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time
for
free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of those
FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is you
can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new user
that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function. For
this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content ->
Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export it
by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export the
private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path
where
you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any certificates
for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you can
then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and drill
down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security
settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in right
pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line run:
cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to
guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire
after
1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any
files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your private
keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I wrote
in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and
sends
a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me the
lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My
problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data Recovery
Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


:

You could give us some more information if you want specific
answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or
not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite and
it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to the
FAQ
and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows
the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt] that
file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS THIS
DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
M

Miha Pihler

Hi,

can you open this certificates (view it). On first page on the top there is
purpose definition for a certificate. It should state "Allows data on disk
to be encrypted". Is that so? There can be other purposes but it must also
be the above mentioned one...

About the call. I am from EU so I am not sure if it's economical for you...

Mike

XDA974 said:
It is a security certificate and I had used the mmc.exe to get it. It is
one of the users in my machine. Can I call you or something so we can get
this done in a less futile way?
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
What certificate do you use? How did you get it? What is it's extension?
*.cer?

Mike

XDA974 said:
Mike,
Hi. So far I am lucky in that aghosted HDD I had provisionally given to
a
friend has saved the day, EXCEPT for a folder which I had originally
fiddled with and right now I have a challenge in my hands. About 98% of
my
data has been recovered except for this folder.
Now, when I attempt to install a DRA I get the following error:
"The file contains no certificates suitable for EFS Recovery. Please
select another file or user."
It really makes me angry that I cannot find a definitive 'manul' if you
want to call it that to help me do this right. Instead I get some
boorish
document from these other MVPs which do nothing for my situation!
OIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

--
ENAS


:

Thanks,

I am glad I was able to help out,

Mike

Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that
MVP
person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to go
through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your directions
appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be
the
MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must
designate
a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is it
still
necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


:

Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time
for
free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of
those
FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is
you
can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new
user
that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check
that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function.
For
this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content ->
Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export
it
by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export
the
private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path
where
you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any
certificates
for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate
for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you
can
then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and
drill
down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security
settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in
right
pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up
an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line
run:
cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data
recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to
guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire
after
1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator
certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any
files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your
private
keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I
wrote
in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and
sends
a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me
the
lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed
my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My
problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data
Recovery
Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


:

You could give us some more information if you want specific
answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or
not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite
and
it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER
MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to
the
FAQ
and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows
the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt]
that
file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS
THIS
DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

I just opened it and it says:
Allows data on disk to be encrypted
All issuance policies

I mean what else do I need to do now?????? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Valid from 6/14/2004 to 5/21/2104

--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Hi,

can you open this certificates (view it). On first page on the top there is
purpose definition for a certificate. It should state "Allows data on disk
to be encrypted". Is that so? There can be other purposes but it must also
be the above mentioned one...

About the call. I am from EU so I am not sure if it's economical for you...

Mike

XDA974 said:
It is a security certificate and I had used the mmc.exe to get it. It is
one of the users in my machine. Can I call you or something so we can get
this done in a less futile way?
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
What certificate do you use? How did you get it? What is it's extension?
*.cer?

Mike

Mike,
Hi. So far I am lucky in that aghosted HDD I had provisionally given to
a
friend has saved the day, EXCEPT for a folder which I had originally
fiddled with and right now I have a challenge in my hands. About 98% of
my
data has been recovered except for this folder.
Now, when I attempt to install a DRA I get the following error:
"The file contains no certificates suitable for EFS Recovery. Please
select another file or user."
It really makes me angry that I cannot find a definitive 'manul' if you
want to call it that to help me do this right. Instead I get some
boorish
document from these other MVPs which do nothing for my situation!
OIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

--
ENAS


:

Thanks,

I am glad I was able to help out,

Mike

Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that
MVP
person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to go
through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your directions
appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be
the
MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must
designate
a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is it
still
necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


:

Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free time
for
free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of
those
FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one is
you
can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new
user
that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check
that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS function.
For
this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content ->
Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can export
it
by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export
the
private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the path
where
you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any
certificates
for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed certificate
for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it; you
can
then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and
drill
down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security
settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in
right
pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look up
an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line
run:
cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data
recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy to
guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will expire
after
1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator
certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any
files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your
private
keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I
wrote
in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post and
sends
a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me
the
lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully installed
my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My
problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data
Recovery
Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


:

You could give us some more information if you want specific
answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain or
not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not polite
and
it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT ANSWER
MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to
the
FAQ
and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that shows
the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt]
that
file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS
THIS
DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
M

Miha Pihler

Let me go few messages back. What are you trying to do right now? Decrypt a
folder? If you are trying to recover from lost access by assigning new DRA
it won't help. You have to do this before you lose any of your private keys
and access to files...

Mike

XDA974 said:
I just opened it and it says:
Allows data on disk to be encrypted
All issuance policies

I mean what else do I need to do now?????? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Valid from 6/14/2004 to 5/21/2104

--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Hi,

can you open this certificates (view it). On first page on the top there
is
purpose definition for a certificate. It should state "Allows data on
disk
to be encrypted". Is that so? There can be other purposes but it must
also
be the above mentioned one...

About the call. I am from EU so I am not sure if it's economical for
you...

Mike

XDA974 said:
It is a security certificate and I had used the mmc.exe to get it. It
is
one of the users in my machine. Can I call you or something so we can
get
this done in a less futile way?
--
ENAS


:

What certificate do you use? How did you get it? What is it's
extension?
*.cer?

Mike

Mike,
Hi. So far I am lucky in that aghosted HDD I had provisionally given
to
a
friend has saved the day, EXCEPT for a folder which I had originally
fiddled with and right now I have a challenge in my hands. About 98%
of
my
data has been recovered except for this folder.
Now, when I attempt to install a DRA I get the following error:
"The file contains no certificates suitable for EFS Recovery. Please
select another file or user."
It really makes me angry that I cannot find a definitive 'manul' if
you
want to call it that to help me do this right. Instead I get some
boorish
document from these other MVPs which do nothing for my situation!
OIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

--
ENAS


:

Thanks,

I am glad I was able to help out,

Mike

Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that
MVP
person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to
go
through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your
directions
appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be
the
MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must
designate
a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is
it
still
necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


:

Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free
time
for
free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of
those
FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one
is
you
can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new
user
that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check
that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS
function.
For
this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content ->
Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can
export
it
by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export
the
private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the
path
where
you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any
certificates
for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed
certificate
for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it;
you
can
then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and
drill
down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security
settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in
right
pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look
up
an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add
it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off
as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line
run:
cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data
recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy
to
guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will
expire
after
1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator
certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any
files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your
private
keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I
wrote
in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post
and
sends
a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me
the
lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully
installed
my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My
problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data
Recovery
Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


:

You could give us some more information if you want specific
answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain
or
not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not
polite
and
it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT
ANSWER
MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

message:


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to
the
FAQ
and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that
shows
the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who
have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt]
that
file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS
THIS
DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 
G

Guest

No I am no longer attempting to do that. I simply want to go through the motions of installing a DRA. So far it is proving to be a futile process. Let me know your latest thoughts on this one, now!
--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Let me go few messages back. What are you trying to do right now? Decrypt a
folder? If you are trying to recover from lost access by assigning new DRA
it won't help. You have to do this before you lose any of your private keys
and access to files...

Mike

XDA974 said:
I just opened it and it says:
Allows data on disk to be encrypted
All issuance policies

I mean what else do I need to do now?????? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Valid from 6/14/2004 to 5/21/2104

--
ENAS


Miha Pihler said:
Hi,

can you open this certificates (view it). On first page on the top there
is
purpose definition for a certificate. It should state "Allows data on
disk
to be encrypted". Is that so? There can be other purposes but it must
also
be the above mentioned one...

About the call. I am from EU so I am not sure if it's economical for
you...

Mike

It is a security certificate and I had used the mmc.exe to get it. It
is
one of the users in my machine. Can I call you or something so we can
get
this done in a less futile way?
--
ENAS


:

What certificate do you use? How did you get it? What is it's
extension?
*.cer?

Mike

Mike,
Hi. So far I am lucky in that aghosted HDD I had provisionally given
to
a
friend has saved the day, EXCEPT for a folder which I had originally
fiddled with and right now I have a challenge in my hands. About 98%
of
my
data has been recovered except for this folder.
Now, when I attempt to install a DRA I get the following error:
"The file contains no certificates suitable for EFS Recovery. Please
select another file or user."
It really makes me angry that I cannot find a definitive 'manul' if
you
want to call it that to help me do this right. Instead I get some
boorish
document from these other MVPs which do nothing for my situation!
OIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

--
ENAS


:

Thanks,

I am glad I was able to help out,

Mike

Mike,
I must tell you, I took the time to read those tedious links that
MVP
person sent me and as I wrote already tedious, it was painful to
go
through and got next to NOTHING about how it's done. Your
directions
appear to be superior in their guidance and I think you should be
the
MVP!
Also, the thing I was able to get out of the FAQ is that I must
designate
a DRA BEFOREHAND I begin encrypting docs, is this correct?
Also, my current user account is already an Administrator, so is
it
still
necessary for me to log in as Administrator proper?
Thanks!
--
ENAS


:

Well most of us around here answer these questions on our free
time
for
free
to help out. I am sure that you could find your answer in one of
those
FAQs,
but it takes time I know...

Well you need a recovery agent. You have few options. First one
is
you
can
make your administrator a recovery agent or you can create a new
user
that
will be your recovery agent.

If you want it to be administrator logon as administrator. Check
that
administrator has a certificate that will enable him EFS
function.
For
this
you can use IE under Tools -> Internet options -> Content ->
Certificates.
If there is a certificate Issued to: Administrator you can
export
it
by
clicking export. If you have the option select No, do not export
the
private
key and save the *.cer file on local hard drive. Remember the
path
where
you
saved it and close all the windows. If you don't have any
certificates
for
administrator encrypt any file to create a self signed
certificate
for
administrator (e.g. create an empty text file and encrypt it;
you
can
then
delete it)...

Then open group policy editor (start -> run -> gpedit.msc) and
drill
down
under computer configuration -> windows settings -> security
settings ->
Public key Policies -> Encryption File System -> right click in
right
pane
and select Add Recover Agent. Select Browse (folders) and look
up
an
administrator certificate that you exported earlier and add
it...
After you have done this close Group Policy editor and log off
as
administrator and logon in your usual account. From command line
run:
cipher
/u. This will update all your encrypted files with new data
recovery
agent...

On your system don't have any user accounts with blank or easy
to
guess
password. This will make EFS useless. Your certificates will
expire
after
1
year so will have to issue new one (e.g. if administrator
certificate
expires and you won't renew it, you won't be able to encrypt any
files)...
Last but not least. Export and make backup copies of ALL your
private
keys!

I hope this helps you out,

Mike

No it's a home workstation. I was angry before which is why I
wrote
in
Caps. I said in my original message, if whoever sees my post
and
sends
a
FAQ, don't do it! So what happened? This carey person sends me
the
lazy
answer, FAQ! Which in turn DID NOT answer my question.
Anyway, like I siad in my message I have successfully
installed
my
certificate in the personal store and it has been accepted. My
problem
now, is that I am having a difficult time on how the Data
Recovery
Agent
is installed.
--
ENAS


:

You could give us some more information if you want specific
answer.
First
quite important information is is you computer part of domain
or
not?

And please don't write in all capital letters. It's not
polite
and
it's
hard
to read.

Mike

I NEED ONE SPECIFIC ANSWER NOT THOSE FAQs! THEY DO NOT
ANSWER
MY
QUESTION
ELOQUENTLY!!!!!!!!!!
--
ENAS


:

HOW TO: Remove File Encryption in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308993

Methods for Recovering Encrypted Data Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;255742

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

message:


| Please provide me with a step-by-step solution not go to
the
FAQ
and
go
take a jump int he lake! I need to
know how to include the Recovery Agent in the slot that
shows
the
encryption details for a particular file.
| For example in the upper window we see the User(s) who
have
transparent
access to the file and below it
shows the Data Recovery Agent which can recover [decrypt]
that
file.
| I need to know how I install this Recovery Agent. HOW IS
THIS
DONE?
Step-by-step not a FAQ file that is
chaotic and simply opens up another can of worms!
| --
| ENAS
 

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