Custom Document Properties

[CarolsXJ900]

My document is taking forever to "repaginate" on scroll (In Print Layout
View, and this is where I want to work) and I have isolated the problem to
the headers where I have inserted fields linking to Custom Document
Properties. When I delete the header, the document scrolls without visible
repagination. When I reinsert the header, the document takes forever to
"repaginate" on scroll. If I paste the header into the actual document on a
number of pages, it scrolls OK.

Is there something I am missing in my Custom Document Properties or when
linking Fields? Any suggestions, please!!!! (This post is a follow-on from my
post titled "Background Repagination".)

 

[Graham Mayor]

What *exactly* have you inserted into the header?

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[CarolsXJ900]

Fields that I have created in Custom Document Properties - ie Contract No:,
Document No: , Revision: , Document Title: , plus a logo and another graphic.
It is set up in a table.

 

[Tony Jollans]

There are occasional issues of this nature when one has objects in headers
or footers, usually tables and frames, that seem to be clashing for the same
space on the page.

Do you have anything, page numbers perhaps, outside your table? If so, try
making the table a little narrower, or slightly adjusting the position of
one or more objects.

 

[CarolsXJ900]

I don't have anything outside the table, but your comments got me to look at
the two graphics I have in the header (which were inherited). When I removed
one, the pages scrolled perfectly. I have redone it (without its frame) and
the document is working.

Thank you so much - I have spent two days trying to get this to work properly.

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

"Infinite" or "continuous" repagination is often the result of a graphic
anchored inside a table in the header, IIRC.

 

[grammatim]

I think she should tell us how she found a way to delete a header!!

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I expect she just deleted the content.

 

[Tony Jollans]

It's a moot point as to whether or not an empty Header 'exists'.

From an ordinary user perspective deleting the content has the effect of (at
least appearing to) delete the header.

On the other hand, the Word object model does always have three header
objects per section but ... they do have a somewhat paradoxical Exists
property.

Methinks you are being a little harsh on the poster.

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

There are some versions in which an empty header definitely exists, from the
standpoint that it interferes with label formatting. When there is "no
header" then the top margin setting prevails. If there's an empty paragraph
in the header, the header margin prevails. The header margin can be set to
0", but unless you do this in Normal.dot (which you wouldn't ordinarily want
to do), then there's no way to "fix" labels except to use the New Document
option and change the setting on the resulting doc.

 

[Tony Jollans]

The conditions under which Word leaves/forces an empty paragraph in a header
are complex (read: I don't really understand them <g>). Sometimes, I think,
you can have content in a non-visible header or footer that affects visible,
otherwise empty, ones.

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Good point. If you have enabled "Different first page" and/or "Different odd
and even," the headers will remain even in a one-page document or section
(and "Different odd and even" is a document setting, unlike "Different first
page," which can be turned on or off for specific sections).

 

[grammatim]

No, 'cause it takes up space. If you had a header and don't want it
any more, after you delete everything that was in it, you still have
to go back to Page Setup to be sure it won't encroach on your text
area.

 

[Tony Jollans]

Sometimes that may be true. As I said elsewhere in this thread, I don't
completely understand why, and under what conditions, Word sometimes
maintains a paragraph mark in an otherwise empty header; there are many
factors at play.

When someone says they have deleted a header, however, although it might be
worth asking them to double check that they have completely deleted it, that
isn't really what you did and, as I said, what exactly existence means to a
header (or, indeed, to any of us <g>) is a debate that could go on for a
long time.