Cross over cable networking connection

[Patrick]

I have linked up 2 Windows XP machines together using a cross over cable
(and the connection is working in that I could remote-desktop from one
machine on to another). However, I am interested to know how I could share
the following amonst the 2 computers
1) Internet Connnection (with a USB Broadband modem on 1 of the PC)
2) Files/printers on both PCs by both PCs

Looking at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814985 , I believe that setup
enable one-way sharing only, right? How could I make the sharing both ways,
so the USB modem and files/printers to be shared could be moved from one PC
to the other with no re-configuration?

TCP/IP of LAN connections currently set up as follows:
1) PC1
1.1) IP 10.11.2.1
1.2) subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
1.3) default gateway- 10.11.2.2
1.4) Workstation Name: PC1
1.5) Workgroup Name: HOME

2) PC2
2.1) IP 10.11.2.2
2.2) subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
2.3) default gateway- 10.11.2.1
2.4) Workstation Name: PC2
2.5) Workgroup Name: HOME

Observations
1) On PC2, when I try to browse to \\10.11.2.1, it asks me for a username
defaulting to PC1\guest (even with Guest account enabled on PC1 and password
set/entered correctly, it wont let me in).
2) On PC2, if I try to map to \\10.11.2.1 , logging on as PC1\AnyAdminUser
it won't let me in either
3) It takes a long time to browse the workgroup
3) On PC2, it takes a long time to browse list of computers in HOME
workgroup, only PC2 is listed
4) On PC1, there is an error saying resources not available and no
workstations are listed
5) On PC1, it complained \\10.11.2.1 is not available when I try to browse
to \\10.11.2.1

Question- anything else I need to do to get Internet Connection shared
(Besides taking the box on to enable it on the PC with USB Broadband modem
installed)

Furthermore, how could I configure the above if one of the PC is a Windows
98 ?

 

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[Steve N.]

I have linked up 2 Windows XP machines together using a cross over cable
(and the connection is working in that I could remote-desktop from one
machine on to another). However, I am interested to know how I could share
the following amonst the 2 computers
1) Internet Connnection (with a USB Broadband modem on 1 of the PC)

Search Help and Support for Internet Connnection Sharing.

2) Files/printers on both PCs by both PCs

Search Help and Support for File and Printer Sharing.

Looking at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814985 , I believe that setup
enable one-way sharing only, right? How could I make the sharing both ways,
so the USB modem and files/printers to be shared could be moved from one PC
to the other with no re-configuration?

You cannot move the modem and share it witout re-configuring.

TCP/IP of LAN connections currently set up as follows:
1) PC1
1.1) IP 10.11.2.1
1.2) subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
1.3) default gateway- 10.11.2.2
1.4) Workstation Name: PC1
1.5) Workgroup Name: HOME

2) PC2
2.1) IP 10.11.2.2
2.2) subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
2.3) default gateway- 10.11.2.1
2.4) Workstation Name: PC2
2.5) Workgroup Name: HOME

Observations
1) On PC2, when I try to browse to \\10.11.2.1, it asks me for a username
defaulting to PC1\guest (even with Guest account enabled on PC1 and password
set/entered correctly, it wont let me in).
2) On PC2, if I try to map to \\10.11.2.1 , logging on as PC1\AnyAdminUser
it won't let me in either
3) It takes a long time to browse the workgroup
3) On PC2, it takes a long time to browse list of computers in HOME
workgroup, only PC2 is listed
4) On PC1, there is an error saying resources not available and no
workstations are listed
5) On PC1, it complained \\10.11.2.1 is not available when I try to browse
to \\10.11.2.1

Question- anything else I need to do to get Internet Connection shared
(Besides taking the box on to enable it on the PC with USB Broadband modem
installed)

Again, Help and Support has all the info you need to do this, but I
would follow the convention of using the 192.168.0.x IP range on your
LAN for ICS and not static IP on the client machines.

Furthermore, how could I configure the above if one of the PC is a Windows
98 ?

Basically the same as for XP, after you get the host PC configured for
ICS set TCP/IP properties for Win98 to automatically obtain IP address.
If the Host machine is configured properly then it will use it as the
internet gateway.

Steve

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I have linked up 2 Windows XP machines together using a cross over cable
(and the connection is working in that I could remote-desktop from one
machine on to another). However, I am interested to know how I could share
the following amonst the 2 computers
1) Internet Connnection (with a USB Broadband modem on 1 of the PC)
2) Files/printers on both PCs by both PCs

Looking at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814985 , I believe that setup
enable one-way sharing only, right? How could I make the sharing both ways,
so the USB modem and files/printers to be shared could be moved from one PC
to the other with no re-configuration?

TCP/IP of LAN connections currently set up as follows:
1) PC1
1.1) IP 10.11.2.1
1.2) subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
1.3) default gateway- 10.11.2.2
1.4) Workstation Name: PC1
1.5) Workgroup Name: HOME

2) PC2
2.1) IP 10.11.2.2
2.2) subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
2.3) default gateway- 10.11.2.1
2.4) Workstation Name: PC2
2.5) Workgroup Name: HOME

Observations
1) On PC2, when I try to browse to \\10.11.2.1, it asks me for a username
defaulting to PC1\guest (even with Guest account enabled on PC1 and password
set/entered correctly, it wont let me in).
2) On PC2, if I try to map to \\10.11.2.1 , logging on as PC1\AnyAdminUser
it won't let me in either
3) It takes a long time to browse the workgroup
3) On PC2, it takes a long time to browse list of computers in HOME
workgroup, only PC2 is listed
4) On PC1, there is an error saying resources not available and no
workstations are listed
5) On PC1, it complained \\10.11.2.1 is not available when I try to browse
to \\10.11.2.1

Question- anything else I need to do to get Internet Connection shared
(Besides taking the box on to enable it on the PC with USB Broadband modem
installed)

Furthermore, how could I configure the above if one of the PC is a Windows
98 ?

I don't think that the Microsoft Knowledge Base article that you cite
applies to your network setup. It describes a connection between the
parallel ports of two computers. If I understand your question, you
have a connection between the Ethernet ports of two computers, using a
crossover Ethernet cable.

Run XP's Network Setup Wizard on both computers. It will make all the
right settings to enable them to share files, printers, and the
broadband Internet connection.

First, run the Wizard on the computer that has the USB modem
connection, which must run Windows XP, and configure it to share its
Internet connection:

1. Click Start | All Programs | Accessories | Communications | Network
Setup Wizard.

2. Specify the connection option "This computer connects directly to
the Internet. The other computers on my network connect to the
Internet through this computer".

3. If the other computer runs Windows 98, tell the Wizard to create a
setup diskette.

4. Let the Wizard run to completion.

Then, run the Wizard on the other computer:

1. If the other computer runs Windows 98, use the setup diskette.

2. If the other computer runs Windows XP, run the Wizard as above. If
the Wizard says that it has found a shared Internet connection on the
other computer, tell it to use the shared connection. Otherwise,
select the connection option "This computer connects to the Internet
through a residential gateway or through another computer on my
network".
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[Tony]

I have linked up 2 Windows XP machines together using a cross over cable
(and the connection is working in that I could remote-desktop from one
machine on to another). However, I am interested to know how I could share
the following amonst the 2 computers
1) Internet Connnection (with a USB Broadband modem on 1 of the PC)
2) Files/printers on both PCs by both PCs

Looking at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814985 , I believe that setup
enable one-way sharing only, right? How could I make the sharing both
ways, so the USB modem and files/printers to be shared could be moved from
one PC to the other with no re-configuration?

TCP/IP of LAN connections currently set up as follows:
1) PC1
1.1) IP 10.11.2.1
1.2) subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
1.3) default gateway- 10.11.2.2
1.4) Workstation Name: PC1
1.5) Workgroup Name: HOME

2) PC2
2.1) IP 10.11.2.2
2.2) subnet mask- 255.255.255.0
2.3) default gateway- 10.11.2.1
2.4) Workstation Name: PC2
2.5) Workgroup Name: HOME

Observations
1) On PC2, when I try to browse to \\10.11.2.1, it asks me for a username
defaulting to PC1\guest (even with Guest account enabled on PC1 and
password set/entered correctly, it wont let me in).
2) On PC2, if I try to map to \\10.11.2.1 , logging on as PC1\AnyAdminUser
it won't let me in either
3) It takes a long time to browse the workgroup
3) On PC2, it takes a long time to browse list of computers in HOME
workgroup, only PC2 is listed
4) On PC1, there is an error saying resources not available and no
workstations are listed
5) On PC1, it complained \\10.11.2.1 is not available when I try to browse
to \\10.11.2.1

Question- anything else I need to do to get Internet Connection shared
(Besides taking the box on to enable it on the PC with USB Broadband modem
installed)

Furthermore, how could I configure the above if one of the PC is a Windows
98 ?

You shouldn't have different IP addresses for the default gateway. Suggest
you only use the IP address of the one that has the modem attached to it.
Try using IP addresses in the 192.168.0.XXX range.

Have you allowed sharing of the drives or folders on either PC? If you look
in my computer, shared drives will have a little hand to show its shared.
Right click on the drive/folder you want to share, then click properties
then sharing. Likewise right click on the printers then set up sharing in
properties. Then go to add printer and select add network printer.

Internet sharing can be done using ICS but I prefer to use a roxy server
such as ccproxy from http://www.youngzsoft.net/ccproxy/

If you use a proxy server, you would just need to add TCP/IP to the W98 PC
for the NIC. You then set up the browser to point at the machine with the
internet connection in (click on Tools> Internet options>connections>lan
settings>proxy server(select) then click on advanced and type in the IP
address and port settings.

 

[Alex Nichol]

I have linked up 2 Windows XP machines together using a cross over cable
(and the connection is working in that I could remote-desktop from one
machine on to another). However, I am interested to know how I could share
the following amonst the 2 computers
1) Internet Connnection (with a USB Broadband modem on 1 of the PC)

On the machine with that connection, r-click on the connection in
Network Connections, Properties, Advanced page and check 'Allow other
network users to connect. . .'

This will force the IP address used for the inter-machine connection to
be 192.168.0.1, and you should make sure the other machine is on
192.168.0.x

You should have any firewall off on the inter-machine connection; on on
the Internet one

2) Files/printers on both PCs by both PCs

Similar Properties for the Inter-machine connection on both machines,
general page, have File and Printer sharing and Client for Microsoft
Networks both checked