CPU Restarts in games

S

Shamino

i POSTED THIS A WHILE AGO BUT I LOST TRACK OF IT so i am
gonna post again.. my computer restarts after about 3 -
10 minutes of gameplay when play games like bf1942 breed
and bunch of other on the error screen i dont remember
everything exactly but it said something about a dll file
from nvidia...i will have to replicate the problem again
to get more info but i really am not in the mood..just
finaly got everything running smooth on xp well besides
this problem so hope to post more info later today.

Oh yes and i do have all the latest driers and they were
installed without any virus software running.
 
J

Jimmy S.

Hi Shamino,

You type of problem is usually solved with hardware troubleshooting
such as those in Steps 5 to 8 below. Otherwise, start from the top..

Good luck, I hope this helps! :)

1. To see if it's a software conflict: Temporarily disable Startup
programs one at a time, starting with Firewall, Antivirus, and ad
blockers using: http://new.jtsoft2001.com/windows/startup.php

You can lookup what a program does before you disable it here:
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_pages/startup_full.htm

2. Run a virus scan at: http://housecall.antivirus.com Afterwards
Download & Run Spybot from: http://security.kolla.de to find any
Trojans, Adware, or Spyware which could clog up your system.

3. Click My Computer / Rightclick the Drive & Choose Properties
/ Run the "Disk Cleanup..." / Next Click the "Tools" Tab and run
the "Error-Checking" and "Defragmentation" utilities.

4. Go to the Windows Update site for everything under Critical and
Recommended: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Except: Q811943 which reportedly may cause systems to slowdown.

5. Update DirectX and your Chipset, Sound, &Video Drivers:
For all Video / DirectX / Game and Hardware Issues, I have a
Checklist of Solutions at: http://NibblesNbitsVideo.tk

6. Dust your fans, vents and components using a 1/4" paintbrush
and a hose vacuum. Use compressed air for hard to reach places.
Set a housefan to blow cold air into your case to expose an over-
heating issue.. If it works add more fans or replace defective ones.
Use this Mainboard Monitoring Utility: http://mbm.livewiredev.com

7. A faulty power supply can cause STOP errors, random reboots,
and black screen lockups. One way to test for that is to remove all
extra devices, network cards, extra RAM sticks, modem, scussi,
sound card, unplug CD drives (if not needed to verify CD), and then
try the game again. If the problem is solved look into a 400 watt P/S.

8. Test your RAM using: http://www.memtest86.com/memt30.zip
after you extract that zip file, click on the README.txt file for the
instructions on how to create the boot floppy to test your RAM.
* Allow Windows to control your pagefile at a "system managed size".
Be sure there's enough space for the pagefile size to = 1.5 * your RAM
Bonus Tip: Set the pagefile to it's own partition or hard drive if possible.

9. Click Start / Control Panel /Administrative Tools / Event Viewer /
Click the Applications listing on the left / in the right pane look for
yellow or red symbols and doubleclick them to identify any problems.

10. Run Setup.exe on your Windows 98/Me/XP/2000 CD to reinstall
Windows over itself without erasing your programs and data. Once
everything works fine reinstall updates one at a time from:
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com test the game after each update.

11. If you have room on one of your partitions, use it to install another
clean installation of Windows which you can gradually update with the
appropriate chipset, video, and sound drivers, as well as Direct X, but
with no extras including themes, firewalls, antivirus, etc. You may have
to reinstall the game(s) for use with that partition, but it's well worth it.

12. If you don't have enough space for step 10 I suggest you at least
create a new administrators account with no themes, firewall, antivirus,
or any other software or startup programs installed for that account. If
this solves the problem, then you should switch over to the new account.

--
Cheers,
Jimmy S.

Additional Support Resources: My Zone.com Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk
Microsoft Online Tech Support: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=376
Game FAQ's: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________


| i POSTED THIS A WHILE AGO BUT I LOST TRACK OF IT so i am
| gonna post again.. my computer restarts after about 3 -
| 10 minutes of gameplay when play games like bf1942 breed
| and bunch of other on the error screen i dont remember
| everything exactly but it said something about a dll file
| from nvidia...i will have to replicate the problem again
| to get more info but i really am not in the mood..just
| finaly got everything running smooth on xp well besides
| this problem so hope to post more info later today.
|
| Oh yes and i do have all the latest driers and they were
| installed without any virus software running.
 
N

NT Canuck

Jimmy S. said:
8. Test your RAM using: http://www.memtest86.com/memt30.zip
after you extract that zip file, click on the README.txt file for the
instructions on how to create the boot floppy to test your RAM.
* Allow Windows to control your pagefile at a "system managed size".
Be sure there's enough space for the pagefile size to = 1.5 * your RAM
Bonus Tip: Set the pagefile to it's own partition or hard drive if possible.

BIOS settings like "turbo" can be too aggressive under continuous
high CPU loads (3D gaming uses 100% CPU).

Screensavers that "kick in" during a game can cause a reboot.
Some NVidea cards (gfx) may need driver update to work with
DX screensavers...something about the fan/card speed/throttling.

This is some interesting background on OEM/bargain ram.
http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/showpubnews.asp?num=94

The pagefile if set to another HDD than the OS partition must keep
a 32mb minimumum with 32mb maximum pagefile on C: (OS drive)
in order to maintain some needed boot up files (of 13-16mb) and
to also enable the auto-shutdown/reboot option of "64kb small
memory dump" the OS needs 10mb in OS partition to process
the data for that file... The balance of pagefile is fine on another
partition. Also uncheck the "auto restart" in startup and recovery
so you can "see" the error or bluescreen code (write it down).

For viewing the resultant minidump (*.dmp)...you can use (free)
newest Microsoft debugger (8.6mb)...more fun than some games! *g*
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/ddk/debugging/installx86.mspx


PS. If you have sound/video card/mainboard drivers that are
working fine....try not to upgrade/change them unless you
actually_have some problem...also update system restore
*before* you do any hardware changes to a good system.

PPS. for those without system restore and a Win2k/XP system
ERUNT helps to backup basic needed configs (also keep the
video/sound/board drivers in a directory so you can find them.
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.hederer/erunt/


HTH
 
J

Jimmy S.

You're welcome Shamino. Hope it helps! :)

Cheers,
Jimmy.

| Thanks for the replies guys. Im almost positive i have
| covered everythting you guys have suggested. But im gonna
| go through them all again to make sure
|
| Thanks again for the help I will keep ya posted. thanks
| again
|
|
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Shamino,
| >
| >You type of problem is usually solved with hardware
| troubleshooting
| >such as those in Steps 5 to 8 below. Otherwise, start
| from the top..
| >
| >Good luck, I hope this helps! :)
| >
| >1. To see if it's a software conflict: Temporarily
| disable Startup
| >programs one at a time, starting with Firewall,
| Antivirus, and ad
| >blockers using:
| http://new.jtsoft2001.com/windows/startup.php
| >
| >You can lookup what a program does before you disable it
| here:
| >http://www.pacs-
| portal.co.uk/startup_pages/startup_full.htm
| >
| >2. Run a virus scan at: http://housecall.antivirus.com
| Afterwards
| >Download & Run Spybot from: http://security.kolla.de to
| find any
| >Trojans, Adware, or Spyware which could clog up your
| system.
| >
| >3. Click My Computer / Rightclick the Drive & Choose
| Properties
| >/ Run the "Disk Cleanup..." / Next Click the "Tools" Tab
| and run
| >the "Error-Checking" and "Defragmentation" utilities.
| >
| >4. Go to the Windows Update site for everything under
| Critical and
| >Recommended: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
| >Except: Q811943 which reportedly may cause systems to
| slowdown.
| >
| >5. Update DirectX and your Chipset, Sound, &Video
| Drivers:
| >For all Video / DirectX / Game and Hardware Issues, I
| have a
| >Checklist of Solutions at: http://NibblesNbitsVideo.tk
| >
| >6. Dust your fans, vents and components using a 1/4"
| paintbrush
| >and a hose vacuum. Use compressed air for hard to reach
| places.
| >Set a housefan to blow cold air into your case to expose
| an over-
| >heating issue.. If it works add more fans or replace
| defective ones.
| >Use this Mainboard Monitoring Utility:
| http://mbm.livewiredev.com
| >
| >7. A faulty power supply can cause STOP errors, random
| reboots,
| >and black screen lockups. One way to test for that is
| to remove all
| >extra devices, network cards, extra RAM sticks, modem,
| scussi,
| >sound card, unplug CD drives (if not needed to verify
| CD), and then
| >try the game again. If the problem is solved look into
| a 400 watt P/S.
| >
| >8. Test your RAM using:
| http://www.memtest86.com/memt30.zip
| >after you extract that zip file, click on the README.txt
| file for the
| >instructions on how to create the boot floppy to test
| your RAM.
| >* Allow Windows to control your pagefile at a "system
| managed size".
| >Be sure there's enough space for the pagefile size to =
| 1.5 * your RAM
| >Bonus Tip: Set the pagefile to it's own partition or
| hard drive if possible.
| >
| >9. Click Start / Control Panel /Administrative Tools /
| Event Viewer /
| >Click the Applications listing on the left / in the
| right pane look for
| >yellow or red symbols and doubleclick them to identify
| any problems.
| >
| >10. Run Setup.exe on your Windows 98/Me/XP/2000 CD to
| reinstall
| >Windows over itself without erasing your programs and
| data. Once
| >everything works fine reinstall updates one at a time
| from:
| >http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com test the game after
| each update.
| >
| >11. If you have room on one of your partitions, use it
| to install another
| >clean installation of Windows which you can gradually
| update with the
| >appropriate chipset, video, and sound drivers, as well
| as Direct X, but
| >with no extras including themes, firewalls, antivirus,
| etc. You may have
| >to reinstall the game(s) for use with that partition,
| but it's well worth it.
| >
| >12. If you don't have enough space for step 10 I
| suggest you at least
| >create a new administrators account with no themes,
| firewall, antivirus,
| >or any other software or startup programs installed for
| that account. If
| >this solves the problem, then you should switch over to
| the new account.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers,
| >Jimmy S.
| >
| >Additional Support Resources: My Zone.com Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk
| >Microsoft Online Tech Support:
| http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=376
| >Game FAQ's: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
| confer any rights.
| >_________________________________________________________
| >
| >
| >| >| i POSTED THIS A WHILE AGO BUT I LOST TRACK OF IT so i
| am
| >| gonna post again.. my computer restarts after about 3 -
| >| 10 minutes of gameplay when play games like bf1942
| breed
| >| and bunch of other on the error screen i dont remember
| >| everything exactly but it said something about a dll
| file
| >| from nvidia...i will have to replicate the problem
| again
| >| to get more info but i really am not in the mood..just
| >| finaly got everything running smooth on xp well besides
| >| this problem so hope to post more info later today.
| >|
| >| Oh yes and i do have all the latest driers and they
| were
| >| installed without any virus software running.
| >
| >
| >.
| >
 
J

Jimmy S.

Glad to be of service! :)

"Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message | Hi Shamino,
|
| You type of problem is usually solved with hardware troubleshooting
| such as those in Steps 5 to 8 below. Otherwise, start from the top..
|
| Good luck, I hope this helps! :)
|
| 1. To see if it's a software conflict: Temporarily disable Startup
| programs one at a time, starting with Firewall, Antivirus, and ad
| blockers using: http://new.jtsoft2001.com/windows/startup.php
|
| You can lookup what a program does before you disable it here:
| http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_pages/startup_full.htm
|
| 2. Run a virus scan at: http://housecall.antivirus.com Afterwards
| Download & Run Spybot from: http://security.kolla.de to find any
| Trojans, Adware, or Spyware which could clog up your system.
|
| 3. Click My Computer / Rightclick the Drive & Choose Properties
| / Run the "Disk Cleanup..." / Next Click the "Tools" Tab and run
| the "Error-Checking" and "Defragmentation" utilities.
|
| 4. Go to the Windows Update site for everything under Critical and
| Recommended: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
| Except: Q811943 which reportedly may cause systems to slowdown.
|
| 5. Update DirectX and your Chipset, Sound, &Video Drivers:
| For all Video / DirectX / Game and Hardware Issues, I have a
| Checklist of Solutions at: http://NibblesNbitsVideo.tk
|
| 6. Dust your fans, vents and components using a 1/4" paintbrush
| and a hose vacuum. Use compressed air for hard to reach places.
| Set a housefan to blow cold air into your case to expose an over-
| heating issue.. If it works add more fans or replace defective ones.
| Use this Mainboard Monitoring Utility: http://mbm.livewiredev.com
|
| 7. A faulty power supply can cause STOP errors, random reboots,
| and black screen lockups. One way to test for that is to remove all
| extra devices, network cards, extra RAM sticks, modem, scussi,
| sound card, unplug CD drives (if not needed to verify CD), and then
| try the game again. If the problem is solved look into a 400 watt P/S.
|
| 8. Test your RAM using: http://www.memtest86.com/memt30.zip
| after you extract that zip file, click on the README.txt file for the
| instructions on how to create the boot floppy to test your RAM.
| * Allow Windows to control your pagefile at a "system managed size".
| Be sure there's enough space for the pagefile size to = 1.5 * your RAM
| Bonus Tip: Set the pagefile to it's own partition or hard drive if possible.
|
| 9. Click Start / Control Panel /Administrative Tools / Event Viewer /
| Click the Applications listing on the left / in the right pane look for
| yellow or red symbols and doubleclick them to identify any problems.
|
| 10. Run Setup.exe on your Windows 98/Me/XP/2000 CD to reinstall
| Windows over itself without erasing your programs and data. Once
| everything works fine reinstall updates one at a time from:
| http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com test the game after each update.
|
| 11. If you have room on one of your partitions, use it to install another
| clean installation of Windows which you can gradually update with the
| appropriate chipset, video, and sound drivers, as well as Direct X, but
| with no extras including themes, firewalls, antivirus, etc. You may have
| to reinstall the game(s) for use with that partition, but it's well worth it.
|
| 12. If you don't have enough space for step 10 I suggest you at least
| create a new administrators account with no themes, firewall, antivirus,
| or any other software or startup programs installed for that account. If
| this solves the problem, then you should switch over to the new account.
|
| --
| Cheers,
| Jimmy S.
|
| Additional Support Resources: My Zone.com Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk
| Microsoft Online Tech Support: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=376
| Game FAQ's: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
| My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| _________________________________________________________
|
|
| | | i POSTED THIS A WHILE AGO BUT I LOST TRACK OF IT so i am
| | gonna post again.. my computer restarts after about 3 -
| | 10 minutes of gameplay when play games like bf1942 breed
| | and bunch of other on the error screen i dont remember
| | everything exactly but it said something about a dll file
| | from nvidia...i will have to replicate the problem again
| | to get more info but i really am not in the mood..just
| | finaly got everything running smooth on xp well besides
| | this problem so hope to post more info later today.
| |
| | Oh yes and i do have all the latest driers and they were
| | installed without any virus software running.
|
|
 

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